Games Mafia Game 94 - Magi: The Crests of Magic - END GAME

Who do you consider the MVP of this game?

  • Holt

    Votes: 9 39.1%
  • + Holt

    Votes: 6 26.1%
  • - Holt

    Votes: 6 26.1%
  • -/+ Holt

    Votes: 8 34.8%
  • GrySun

    Votes: 11 47.8%
  • Belserion

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Erinwet

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Hardy

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Evil3ye

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Pando

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Boobyfosh

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Haya-san

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Margi

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Desin

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Scary Sakura

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Hermit

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Seraph

    Votes: 7 30.4%
  • Seiko

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Marma

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Distrustedspeed

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • DD

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Pompom-chan

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Jinx

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Big nose shinobi

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • James

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Shobu Oak

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Equaling Hell

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Asako and Threeson

    Votes: 3 13.0%

  • Total voters
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None of what you said is a mafia play apart from attempting to save the player that turned out to be Assassin. Which shouldn‘t matter as I also tried saving James(a red mafia) so what team am I playing for?

Sakura even confirmed me as town beyond all what I said, yet she still votes me. This is just sad.

Why didn‘t you lock me already if you‘re this certain? I swear it‘s like talking to a brick wall, you won‘t accept you‘re wrong, or that it makes no sense for a mafia to do like 90% of what I did all game.
Ok, so you decide what is mafia play and what is not, fair. Since you are the mafia man here, I guess I can accept that.

Like you could have been also just by accident saving James thinking he is townie, like you were saving Holt. Please don't bring that up as a defense anymore.

I didn't lock because I told the conditions under which we still can talk. Give the role, and then we see further. We still have 17 hours.
 

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Just lynch Pompom next day. Evil could still just be an awful townie player so I‘d leave him around for longee, but Pompom is a clear mafia. Sad I must die for you all to see it but not much more I can do. I can tell you my role and it still wouldn‘t matter, because it‘s not about a role. It‘s about me somehow making some asinine mafia play that makes little to no sense. Highly disappointing.
 

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And sakura did not confirm you, btw. Just an action which I gave already reasons for, we don't know the full story about.
 

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Ok, so you decide what is mafia play and what is not, fair. Since you are the mafia man here, I guess I can accept that.

Like you could have been also just by accident saving James thinking he is townie, like you were saving Holt. Please don't bring that up as a defense anymore.

I didn't lock because I told the conditions under which we still can talk. Give the role, and then we see further. We still have 17 hours.
But I can‘t think both Farf and Bel are townies, or think Farf is townie? I can only think Holt and James are townies? You choose when I‘m wrong and when I‘m trying to save a teammate?

I mean you can tell me how I would do such bad play, especially after last game where me trying to save sakura backfired. With a Det that will get Farf 1 day later. In a 2-mafia setup saving a friend another night doesn‘t help, especially when more get suspected for it.

Sure. Freeman. Now lock it because I doubt you really care.
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And sakura did not confirm you, btw. Just an action which I gave already reasons for, we don't know the full story about.
Your reasons are not sound. It relies on „something only you know“, really? It‘s all written in the OP under rules for Magicians which you should‘ve read.

As mafia either I save it up for scum buddies to boost the action or use it on a townie to feign some trust. Using on an Assassin that can‘t use his role that night throws it away. Your only argument is that „it‘s weak so you can just toss it“ but that‘s so weak. Why not just join a dungeon and get a metal vessel to a mafia friend then?
 

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The Freeman mafia defense. Now we truely seen it all Gry. :lmao

In this setup, like c'mon!
 

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I consciously stayed out of dungeons to use not my secret mafia primary role, but to boost a teammate for funsies. I can‘t believe you believe this.
 

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Quick a list with all magicians.
Yes I'd like to see it too. I can't remember all of them from Erin's list but this isn't a colloseum. The Gois trying to obtain a role aren't here to perform for your entertainment. Aren't you magicians meant to be doing something? It's day 4, the Detective, doctors, police officer are out in the open. These are most of the important roles. Where are the rest of you? Passive? The list should narrow down the other 2 Magis as well.

I can but I won‘t, doesn‘t help neither you nor me to claim it.
Ah of course. The "I need to conceal my role for the good of town" excuse. Last time I recall you saying this you tried to claim Detective when pushed and turned out to be Mafia. Surely you wouldn't rinse and repeat?

Gry was totally postponing the Farfalla lynch, he would not lynch any between Bel and Farfy even though he knows it is important to find out a det’s sanity, then right when Cres announces she will investigate me, mafia blocks, guess who is in a bad shade… You’re all letting Gry and some other go too easy.
This is my biggest problem. I'm not even salty about his vote. I expected it. My issue was him trying to delay the lynch between us instead of pushing to not only confirm a mafia, but the detective's sanity as well. No matter how much postponing the lynch is twisted to resemble logic , the fact remains leaving the situation for the next day would have only added another player to the mix, provided they didn't kill Jinxie (which they obviously tried to do) and we would have been left scrambling and it would have still been me vs Farf. When she voted evil that was the biggest indicator she was scum otherwise why not lock me? If she was legit she would have, so I can understand why she tried to dodge. She's the only one it would make sense for.
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Missed my chance to get revenge on Bel :nah
I don't know what kept your away yesterday but good :pls

What's your role magician? Did you already reveal?
 

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Whatever gonna ignore Evil, he argues in bad faith since the start. Lock me, lose people in 2 nights, then try to recover by lynching Pompom and other obvious scum.

At this point none of my play is in any way mafia yet not like that‘s important to be voted. Go ahead.
 

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As mafia either I save it up for scum buddies to boost the action or use it on a townie to feign some trust. Using on an Assassin that can‘t use his role that night throws it away. Your only argument is that „it‘s weak so you can just toss it“ but that‘s so weak. Why not just join a dungeon and get a metal vessel to a mafia friend then?
Well, clearly the action is traceable by spies etc. If Scary is not lying she seen it on the action log, so you baited to be trusted by Spies by announcing it and also divert their actions from other key players to you. But you are the mafia play top expert here. Please tell me how this is not an acceptable mafia play yet an other time, just because you can.
 

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Demon is likely orange, Pom is likely red.

No clue about Evil, I think he‘s just really bad. Depends what his grand Day10 reveal ends up being + them leaving him alive for that long.

Rest, shobu/Hermit is likely orange as well, but not both. Likely shobu. I expect at least 2 of Farf‘s teammates to have been on Bel, and one on herself.

That leave 1 orange and 1 red to find. The last players really depend then on the roles they claim, as they all play too much in a way to leave nothing to analyze. So leaving that rest to you all.

Just remember not to allow people to get away with not having claimed anything by endgame and should be fine.
 

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You know, it's been ages since i've seen Gry live this long. It never does well to have him live this long, mean as it sounds.



Just remember not to allow people to get away with not having claimed anything by endgame and should be fine.
You say this on D4 after outright refusing to claim or reveal anything...dude i can't with you anymore. :XD

Sure we'll do our best.
 

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The 2 unclaimed Magi‘s are 100% scum due to them both hiding it for so long and not using a boost on Crescent. Lynch anyone bold enough to claim being a Magi and not doing anything of value with it.
They likely won‘t come out, so you look for 2 Magicians. Imo there is certainly more Magician scums than Goi scums. 3-1 in each team perhaps. So imo lynch Magicians in the coming days.
 

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@GrySun what do you think about haya being a doc ? after having a doc killed and PO revealed and possibly other protective roles/blocking with MV.
 

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@GrySun what do you think about haya being a doc ? after having a doc killed and PO revealed and possibly other protective roles/blocking with MV.
24 players is plenty enough for 2 Docs and a PO honestly, as the PO loses it‘s usefulness after Assassin is dead. Especially if we don‘t have a Prostitute. But really depends on what the metal vessels do.
So on her claim alone I wouldn‘t suspect her. Her play can be seen as shady with how she posts but I generally trust her because of how she was saying every phase that she‘s using the role. Very bold of her mafia to let her claim an early Doc with the other mafia likely killing her.

So possible but not someone I‘m considering. Besides she absolutely will not live to endgame if she is town. Mafia cannot afford to risk her blocking kills just for the future chance of framing her. Especially once the escort has been removed.
 

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The 2 unclaimed Magi‘s are 100% scum due to them both hiding it for so long and not using a boost on Crescent.
how so ? mafia magi cant be killed by townies but wont townies magi definitely be killed by mafia if they reveal ? i dont get your reasoning here ? we can maybe find out who is magi if you know or have an info or assumption about how they are selected. can you share anything if you know something.
 

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how so ? mafia magi cant be killed by townies but wont townies magi definitely be killed by mafia if they reveal ? i dont get your reasoning here ? we can maybe find out who is magi if you know or have an info or assumption about how they are selected. can you share anything if you know something.
Oh he'll be taking his secrets to the grave, no doubt, Gry would rather die saying nothing than backstab his Team.
 

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None of what you said is a mafia play apart from attempting to save the player that turned out to be Assassin. Which shouldn‘t matter as I also tried saving James(a red mafia) so what team am I playing for?

Sakura even confirmed me as town beyond all what I said, yet she still votes me. This is just sad.

Why didn‘t you lock me already if you‘re this certain? I swear it‘s like talking to a brick wall, you won‘t accept you‘re wrong, or that it makes no sense for a mafia to do like 90% of what I did all game.
I confirmed with what?
 
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