Games Mafia Game 94 - Magi: The Crests of Magic - END GAME

Who do you consider the MVP of this game?

  • Holt

    Votes: 9 39.1%
  • + Holt

    Votes: 6 26.1%
  • - Holt

    Votes: 6 26.1%
  • -/+ Holt

    Votes: 8 34.8%
  • GrySun

    Votes: 11 47.8%
  • Belserion

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Erinwet

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Hardy

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Evil3ye

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Pando

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Boobyfosh

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Haya-san

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Margi

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Desin

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Scary Sakura

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Hermit

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Seraph

    Votes: 7 30.4%
  • Seiko

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Marma

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Distrustedspeed

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • DD

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Pompom-chan

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Jinx

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Big nose shinobi

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • James

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Shobu Oak

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Equaling Hell

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Asako and Threeson

    Votes: 3 13.0%

  • Total voters
    23

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Whatever gonna ignore Evil, he argues in bad faith since the start. Lock me, lose people in 2 nights, then try to recover by lynching Pompom and other obvious scum.

At this point none of my play is in any way mafia yet not like that‘s important to be voted. Go ahead.
LOL I know that feeling :XD.
 

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how so ? mafia magi cant be killed by townies but wont townies magi definitely be killed by mafia if they reveal ? i dont get your reasoning here ? we can maybe find out who is magi if you know or have an info or assumption about how they are selected. can you share anything if you know something.
I am a townie Magi, I wasn‘t killed. They don‘t really care, since they already got 2 Magis.

Basically, killing a townie Magi will just make a new Magician become a Magi afterwards. Can give mafia more Magis but more likely it goes to town I believe.

I was just PMed when day ended(when it was already night) about how the rukh chose me. My theory is that dead players in deadpad can vote on 3 Magician players to get it. Whether it‘s a public voting or not, not sure. But at the time there were 2 dead townies(Holt and Panda) + DD joined mid-day after being daykilled. I don‘t know anything else, too few were really dead to make me think the selection wasn‘t random.

Panda probably voted me to get it, unsure about who DD and Holt would pick there.
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I confirmed with what?
Mortician role usage. You got that Farfalla was boosted N2. I also claimed last day on D3 that I boosted Farf that night. She was an orange Assassin, who killed on D2, so boosting her as her teammate wouldn‘t have had any effect when I could easily enter a dungeon and do the double-Magi vote instead.

Especially with how the Magi is told at night, a mafia would already be able to discuss what to do with it with his team.

Your action confirmed I wasn‘t lying, and any reason for me wasting it on my Assassin teammate is less likely than me just trusting her as a townie and boosting the active role she claimed.
 

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Oh well, i'm gone for a little bit, but before i do i'll cast my initial vote.

Votekill GrySun
 

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So no word from magicians/magi anymore. That's why I want a list with the names at least but I'm kind of lazy to do so as much as you are ignoring it too for not coming out of your hiding and man up.

That said, maybe the magicians - just like the MV - get the same info about rukh's influence on the outcome via PM. Then we have this on the rules.
The first 3 Magi will be secretly selected among the magicians living in the game at the end of Day 2.

DD and James both went the flow of rukh at the end of D2.

11. Digitaldude as Sharrkan ( Mafia Goi ) <<< Killed Day 2
13. James Rye as Ugo (Janitor Magician) <<< Lynched Day 2

Does they still had influence on the pick? Which would make sense in believin the other two selected magi being red scum because they knew exactly who to pick unlike orange (who had nobody there at given time, Farfalla only died via lynch D3) and green (who had two people in the flow, but as everyone knows town plays in the dark while mafia know who their stinky gang members are).
 

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I am a townie Magi, I wasn‘t killed. They don‘t really care, since they already got 2 Magis.

Basically, killing a townie Magi will just make a new Magician become a Magi afterwards. Can give mafia more Magis but more likely it goes to town I believe.

I was just PMed when day ended(when it was already night) about how the rukh chose me. My theory is that dead players in deadpad can vote on 3 Magician players to get it. Whether it‘s a public voting or not, not sure. But at the time there were 2 dead townies(Holt and Panda) + DD joined mid-day after being daykilled. I don‘t know anything else, too few were really dead to make me think the selection wasn‘t random.

Panda probably voted me to get it, unsure about who DD and Holt would pick there.
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Mortician role usage. You got that Farfalla was boosted N2. I also claimed last day on D3 that I boosted Farf that night. She was an orange Assassin, who killed on D2, so boosting her as her teammate wouldn‘t have had any effect when I could easily enter a dungeon and do the double-Magi vote instead.

Especially with how the Magi is told at night, a mafia would already be able to discuss what to do with it with his team.

Your action confirmed I wasn‘t lying, and any reason for me wasting it on my Assassin teammate is less likely than me just trusting her as a townie and boosting the active role she claimed.
What was the reasoning behind you not being red? Did you explain the reasoning behind the boosts?
 

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So no word from magicians/magi anymore. That's why I want a list with the names at least but I'm kind of lazy to do so as much as you are ignoring it too for not coming out of your hiding and man up.

That said, maybe the magicians - just like the MV - get the same info about rukh's influence on the outcome via PM. Then we have this on the rules.
The first 3 Magi will be secretly selected among the magicians living in the game at the end of Day 2.

DD and James both went the flow of rukh at the end of D2.

11. Digitaldude as Sharrkan ( Mafia Goi ) <<< Killed Day 2
13. James Rye as Ugo (Janitor Magician) <<< Lynched Day 2


Does they still had influence on the pick? Which would make sense in believin the other two selected magi being red scum because they knew exactly who to pick unlike orange (who had nobody there at given time, Farfalla only died via lynch D3) and green (who had two people in the flow, but as everyone knows town plays in the dark while mafia know who their stinky gang members are).
I like this logic and also the fact panda if he had good feelings on Gry would definitely send some afterlife love to him
 

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What was the reasoning behind you not being red? Did you explain the reasoning behind the boosts?
That I‘d never go this route with the Dets if I was red. I‘d know none of my teammates was implicated, so I‘d happily go through lynching either one. No point sticking my head out for Farf and Bel both by even suggesting to not lynch one. Unnecessary risk.

I boosted Farf because I just got Magi that night and wanted to use a boost while I‘m alive. Initially was gonna boost Haya but then didn‘t because of her Shobu vote. Farf was among the people I trusted.
Then last night‘s boost went to the Det.
 

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I like this logic and also the fact panda if he had good feelings on Gry would definitely send some afterlife love to him
It would be different from the way it works on the lore, but it's time we ignore how the original thing is and try to better graps the game mechanics. Theorizing, wrong or not, is how we should start.

Also for you jumpy guys out there i'm not trying to defend anyone here, I'm just trying to understand how the Magicians/Magi works because we don't know jackshit about them and they know everything about us MV.
 

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Sprig, did you ever say who you targetted?
 

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That I‘d never go this route with the Dets if I was red. I‘d know none of my teammates was implicated, so I‘d happily go through lynching either one. No point sticking my head out for Farf and Bel both by even suggesting to not lynch one. Unnecessary risk.

I boosted Farf because I just got Magi that night and wanted to use a boost while I‘m alive. Initially was gonna boost Haya but then didn‘t because of her Shobu vote. Farf was among the people I trusted.
Then last night‘s boost went to the Det.
I'm not sure I see how it's an indicative of alignment? You can also say it's scummy trying to capitalise on delaying a det result to then be sure town targets people not in your team for 3 days.

What's the point of boosting the det?
 

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I ll try to do a recap tomorrow, im too exhausted now ( its late here, just waiting my laundry to end before going to sleep) . I will cast my vote now and ofc might change my vote depending on any new infos.

Votekill Shobu : reason is that he is on the list of highly suspected poisoner ( or escort) he didnt specify if hes magician or goi and i assume he is magician, and above all he voted Bel after Farf admitted being orange mafia.
 

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I'm not sure I see how it's an indicative of alignment? You can also say it's scummy trying to capitalise on delaying a det result to then be sure town targets people not in your team for 3 days.

What's the point of boosting the det?
I‘d say it is. It‘s a 2-mafia game, such a play would just delay the inevitable by adding me to the fire alongside Farf. Better to lynch one or the other, not delay it a phase. I really was spooked by Daws saying gois can be Millers, metagaming perhaps but thought he slipped up and confirmed there is a Death Miller ingame.

Notice how I only had that idea after Daws posted, otherwise telling Farf one of them has to be mafia because gois can‘t be non-vanilla.

To help make it not be blocked I thought. I don‘t see a better usage for it. Thought they‘d just kill Haya and block Cres, simplest way.
 

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Boost turns everything into prio 1?
 

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Yeah. Farf came out as orange ( #1,887 ) and shobu still voted her ( #1,890 ).
Low post count but afawk he did some backreading.
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Boost turns everything into prio 1?
Isn't specified on the rules, just tells it boost priority.
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My bet is that it does move to top.
 

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Boost turns everything into prio 1?
No, hosts told me that the boost itself is Prio 0, but my target‘s action is only boosted by one level. So a killer then kills with prio 2, Det investigated Prio 1. Really not too many applications for that I feel.
 

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It's stages then. As much as i try to move away from Magi's lore I thought it would work like a Miracle.
 

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Shobu also voted against DD. So it would be consistent with Orange behavior.
 
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