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Who do you consider the MVP of this game?

  • Holt

    Votes: 9 39.1%
  • + Holt

    Votes: 6 26.1%
  • - Holt

    Votes: 6 26.1%
  • -/+ Holt

    Votes: 8 34.8%
  • GrySun

    Votes: 11 47.8%
  • Belserion

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Erinwet

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Hardy

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Evil3ye

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Pando

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Boobyfosh

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Haya-san

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Margi

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Desin

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Scary Sakura

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Hermit

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Seraph

    Votes: 7 30.4%
  • Seiko

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Marma

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Distrustedspeed

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • DD

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Pompom-chan

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Jinx

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Big nose shinobi

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • James

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Shobu Oak

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Equaling Hell

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Asako and Threeson

    Votes: 3 13.0%

  • Total voters
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That i won't get EM even if i enter a dungeon:emocat
I think I like you.

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You telling me that you, a magician, thought you could get a MV? I'm not making fun of you or anything like that, I'm not the smartest player at all too, but you could ask us or the hosts about what you don't understand.
Is your role something you could hint us about? Targets? Anything.
And to the other players, sorry for the chitchat.
 

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I think I like you.

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You telling me that you, a magician, thought you could get a MV? I'm not making fun of you or anything like that, I'm not the smartest player at all too, but you could ask us or the hosts about what you don't understand.
Is your role something you could hint us about? Targets? Anything.
And to the other players, sorry for the chitchat.
That's why since d1 i've been saying that want to wait for the abilities to be shown u.u
Last time played 3 days only. Now this is a new record to me.
 

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Erin's not confirmed but it's a really good claim.

I'm going through Gry's posts, and as the claim is... Important it deserves some sort of analysis.

Concerning his role, I think everything lines well, even hiding stuff he usually doesn't d1 or a genuine sounding "I'm not hinting that role" to me. Real or not this claim is consistent and certainly not lazy.

I don't agree with his defense as to not be red. But at the same time on a general level this is actually a good thing because this is something he has been doing all game.

For mafia you usually look for illogical stuff, inconsistencies, insecurities... So far in his gazillion posts he has presented his thoughts and defended his logic. You can not share the same ideas as him, but it doesn't make them illogical. On this topic the only thing bugging me is that I think his opinion on vessels being different/same for both parties changed (and from one day to the other), while he's trying to defend he never had a strong opinion in the first place.

There's very subjective / tonal stuff that I didn't like through the game, the latest and probably most important being that his reveal was pretty nonchalant. It has a setup but not really the sort of emotion I would had expected. I don't know if someone that has played with him more agrees/disagrees.

In any case, Tl;dr... I buy his claim. Everything is quite consistent since the very start of the game. Which is kinda great because it makes me even more confident on the demon lynch. Vote that instead thankies.

It's a fucking freeman claim don't be lazy and think about it. Speaking of, Seraph coming out of nowhere just voting Gry and not addressing anything is not a good look.
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Nope.
I can only say that was my main reason to enter dungeon first. Then in N2 learned i'm magician, so refused to improve my skill set.
And you? If you, would be so kind to repeat, please.




That toxicity can be seen a mile away.

You quoted me that i wasn't having a town attitude. What's a town attitude?
The inquiries are the 2 times i asked for info about dungeons, one to Gry, the other to everybody that wants to answer.
I said I tried to shoot someone last night and it didn't go well.

What's your role?
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Oh on Hermit... I think he's played kind of like Demon which is a pretty shitty thing. I should check the votes of both as the game went on and compare to be sure but rn I'm too tired lol.

The claim is very out of nowhere as it's a role with a very specific use, and him not saying his targets on top of that is no bueno. The thing is, unless the other roles are quite mismatched I'm expecting the assassin team to have a lover to balance both parties, and psychiatrist could be around to counter that (much like the PO).

I'm assuming it doesn't detect vessels as they aren't really roles in the first place (and on top of that makes the psychiatrist even more useless, lol).
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No one's around, sleep time
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That's why since d1 i've been saying that want to wait for the abilities to be shown u.u
Last time played 3 days only. Now this is a new record to me.
I'm not sure you can say you played a single day.
 

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Yeah. Farf came out as orange ( #1,887 ) and shobu still voted her ( #1,890 ).
That's not what she's saying though. She is referring to the oranges killing digital, which pulls town still ahead, so anything but a confession
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It's a fucking freeman claim don't be lazy and think about it.
Oh please, no way in million years is this his role, it's just an attempt to scare townie newbies away. Even if he is a townie, which is highly highly debatable, that's not his role.

How is he alive with that role, considering mafia detectives were mentioned several times and make sense in this game as well.
 

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That's not what she's saying though. She is referring to the oranges killing digital, which pulls town still ahead, so anything but a confession
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Oh please, no way in million years is this his role, it's just an attempt to scare townie newbies away. Even if he is a townie, which is highly highly debatable, that's not his role.

How is he alive with that role, considering mafia detectives were mentioned several times and make sense in this game as well.
If you were to vote for someone else, who would it be?
 

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How is it weird ? it's my job to focus on assassin ?
I missed the post, when did you claim being Police Officer?
Anyway, we had a 50/50 chance at killing a Mafia then, surely it was better to focus on that than give an almost blind shot at a potential assassin? Assuming Jinx was telling the truth but with 3 parties around, I doubt she would have lied (doesn't mean she is not from the other party though).
Besides, Farf (Bel too? I don't remember) was on the restricted list of potential assassins so really I don't see much of a reason why even try to prevent lynching either of them.
Gry tried to do that as well afaicr.

Now:
You know, it's been ages since i've seen Gry live this long. It never does well to have him live this long, mean as it sounds.
I do find this to be a very convenient argument. Like, this is my first game and I've seen many claim that letting Gry live too long is never a good thing so it does make him a very convenient target for a middle/late game lynch. Mafia could have let him live this long with that in mind.
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Sorry if all these things were already said but I really have a hard time following all the discussions and I need confirmation:

So Hermit claimed psychiatrist?
Who did you investigate last night @Crescent Jinx ?
Who did you try to protect last night @Haya-san ?
 

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If you were to vote for someone else, who would it be?
Not sure why I would want to do that. Obviously the game has more than only one mafa member left, but given the circumstances all indicators show that this is the right course of actions.

Nonetheless I have of course multiple others I suspect, will post a list later, but I am not seeing a point in changing lynch order right now.
 

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Who did you try to protect last night @Haya-san ?
Crescent Jinx.

I have a feeling this post might be used against me later, but I'll give my two cents on Gry: maybe I'm trusting him in this game like I trusted Farfalla (and Farfalla is pretty good at sounding like a townie, take it as a compliment), but I give him the benefit of a doubt for declaring he was magi while the other two haven't announce it yet. He also said who he was going to use his magi powers on, which turned out to be the assassin, and Noona's ability confirmed it. If he and Farfalla were in the same group, it would've been risky for him to disclose. Maybe someone would say I'm just trying to help an accomplice, but personally, I would focus on interrogating the other magicians who didn't say anything about their roles and whether they became magis.

Maybe I'm a newbie, but I'm not a simpleton. If I were mafia, I would keep all of my cards to myself. Maybe I'll play some mind games if someone raised a suspicion, but I would rather be lynched than give a fake list of names.

Gonna grab a coffee. I might be back at the end of the day to vote☕
 

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I ll try to do a recap tomorrow, im too exhausted now ( its late here, just waiting my laundry to end before going to sleep) . I will cast my vote now and ofc might change my vote depending on any new infos.

Votekill Shobu : reason is that he is on the list of highly suspected poisoner ( or escort) he didnt specify if hes magician or goi and i assume he is magician, and above all he voted Bel after Farf admitted being orange mafia.
wait farf admitted to being orange mafia? where?
 

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@Belserion and @Erinyes, what’s your feelings on Hermit?
He appears in the list of people who didnt enter any donjons, and who could be poisoner if theres one or escort. But i myself have a new role, im not sure how easy it is to fake, you have no idea how many questions i sent to the hosts to clarify stuffs ( and really thxs to them to have been patient with me) at least he did come with something, considering noone claimed any other investigative initial role than yours, it can make sense. i would say hes in gray zone for me. waiting for what he has to say, his results etc.

She claimed PO yes, Evil even pointed out how it's conveniente to do so after assassin leaves the game, but I don't remember anything else
Convenient ? Seriously who would claim PO when assassin is alive ? :fail Its a day action ability, ofc i wouldnt claim it, but i hinted early in the game, evil interpreted my hint as passive rle while i meant no night role action. plus i m the 1st who mentioned the presence of assassin in the game before she killed anyone... so what are you trying to do, exactly ? trying to cast shade on me to hide how shady you are ...?
So you have MV right, what did you do with that, prove you re so much trusworthy than me, talk about your targets, your results etc ! did you do it or i missed it?
if you re not happy with my claim just lynch me :catshrug
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I missed the post, when did you claim being Police Officer?

i did it like 3 or 4 times did day phase :arf just let me have a coffee and i will link you the posts. Btw i mainly claimed, bc 2 kills on N3 makes no sense since my ability worked last day phase. so either we have another killing party or mafia did use poisoner, or one kill is insane doc, which i doubt, mafia poisoner seems to be the option which makes the most sense and fits the 0 kill on N2.
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@MArGi i was not trying to prevent lynching you misunderstood or missed some of my posts, i was trying to save Bel who at that moment was the most voted, Bel was already in the list of persons i wanted to protect before even Crescent revealed her role and actions, so ofc i trusted her. its forbidden to quote hosts but i dont know about quoting my own messages ( i wont do anyway since its private convo. but theres everything i thought about that situation and my worries for bel in one of the coms i sent to them everything i couldnt say on thread to avoid make target of myself ). I m pretty sure i mentioned somewhere that bel cant be assassin nor panda killer while farf could be both.

edut typos
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@MArGi here are most the mentions abt my role or related to my role, there might be other ( im amazed you missed all of them :arf )


There was definitely a day kill yesterday.
so why do we have 2 deaths ? poisoning ?
but among them, 1 was crescent and 2nd was bel. and both were protected before crescent reveal.
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yup i got feedback i successfully protected one of them
no im no doc i dont have a night role but a day role
Yup but im not told which of my target was protected.
Assassin's kill is supposed to replace night kill, Im assuming Assassin's team cant get 2 kills, if its blocked its the same way if it is blocked at night. Or thats how it should work imo.
Btw, mafia orange knew their kill failed, so they knew there was a police officer in the game i assume Desin was picked due to his hint, it's possible they thought he was the PO, since i guess many misinterpreted my hint as passive.
Im the police officer, :arf and i was notified i protected successfuly someone yesterday (day action) meaning assassin's kill failed , if assassin's kill failed theres no way we would have 2 deaths on N3, unless theres a 3rd party kill, or poisoner ( or maybe an insane doc )
 
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When I saw burden was given to a goi player by MV I thought Freeman could appear in the same way by MV to a mafia player, not as a starting role of a magician, just a thought.
I don't know what kept your away yesterday but good :pls

What's your role magician? Did you already reveal?
eh, I thought he was saying he's Avenger and selecting you N1, no?

@MArGi you claimed Healthy townie? Is this the role you got from MV? what about the other magic ability?
 

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seriously for people who dont trust me, how would i know there was a day kill unless im PO, would have i been mafia i wouldnt have said it.
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eh, I thought he was saying he's Avenger and selecting you N1, no?
oh i thought Brandish hinted Avenger ( or maybe pirate, both could fit if he stole a passive role ) but leaning towards avenger.
 

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@Equaling Heaven not much point making a list of magicians, it‘s almost everyone.

GrySun - Magician
Scary Noona - Magician
Lady pompom - Magician
Evil3ye - Magician
Crescent Jinx - Magician
Erinyes - Magician
Hermit - Magician
Brandish - Magician
Shobu - Magician
Haya-san - Magician
shinobi - Magician

Equaling Heaven - Goi
Margi - Goi
Demonspeed - Goi
Seraph - Goi
Hardy - Goi
Belserion - Goi

The sheer volume makes the Magician crowd have most of our scum. I think only 1 goi is scum.

If we assume 5 mafias are left, 3 oranges and 2 reds, 1 orange goi would be the goi mafia, while the remaining 4 are magicians in the upper list.
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Nobody get offended but this is my shoutout for mafias: red pompom, orange demon, orange shobu, red shinobi, orange hermit?

If I‘m wrong it‘s either on the colors or some like shinobi/hermit are legit while someone is very sneaky with the Magicians.
 

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wait farf admitted to being orange mafia? where?
i do interpret that post as such.

Maybe I'm a newbie, but I'm not a simpleton
you re not at all Haya, you re doing a great game especially for a 1st timer. :nod
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f we assume 5 mafias are left, 3 oranges and 2 reds, 1 orange goi would be the goi mafia, while the remaining 4 are magicians in the upper list.
I do think both mafia teams are likely formed the way, so im pretty convinced theres an orange among remaining gois too.

Still wondering if there are lovers in the game.
 

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seriously for people who dont trust me, how would i know there was a day kill unless im PO, would have i been mafia i wouldnt have said it.
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oh i thought Brandish hinted Avenger ( or maybe pirate, both could fit if he stole a passive role ) but leaning towards avenger.
He was saying he missed his chance to avenge Belse yesterday, so I thought he meant he's avenger and selected bel N1, had she been lynched yesterday he would have avenged her by killing someone.
You voted Shubo, I think he's scum too and I wouldn't mind lynching him, but what do you think about grysun, still hesitant about voting him?
 

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If we assume 5 mafias are left, 3 oranges and 2 reds
What makes you think these are the numbers? We had last game with exact total numbers of 24 players, which was a 14-5-5. Was heavily critizisied to be unwinnable for town. But Daws taking out one mafia each and making it 16-4-4 is a big leap in my opinion.

Maybe he crippled the 5 with Lovers in each team. Which would still mean we have whopping 7 scum left, which I hope is not the case but it's possible. I also still can't shake off the feeling of Traitors presence, especially considering we still haven't reconstructed all lack of kills, so making it something like 14-(4+1)-(4+1).
 

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So you have MV right, what did you do with that, prove you re so much trusworthy than me
How is a necromancer supposed to work without dead bodies, Erin? :D I went to dungeons the first two nights to get it and in the 3rd one there wasn't no way to use it yet. I'm not trying to hide anything, I was just thinkin about a possibility here, and now that I revealed my role and intention to use doc I'm a pretty obvious target.
 

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This is how the Bel voters list will look like after I‘m lynched:

Belserion x 7 <<< desin24 (#1740), Scary Noona (#1758), Hermit (#1764), Demonspeed (#1865), GrySun (#1874), MarmaladeSky (#1875), Shobu_Yoruichi (#1890)

While I don‘t think every single orange tried saving Farf, likely at least 1 voted Farf, there should be likely 2 here.

I think Noona is likely fine and has good odds to be very useful with Mortician role next nights so if mafia let her alive we‘ll have good news from it. Hell she even saw that someone blocked Farf N2 when we got no claimed blockers. Idk who is currently more worth to check between Marm desin and me. Perhaps Marm, as it confirms poisoner + maybe a M. Det if that‘s what got her.

Hermit, Demon and Shobu. Has to have 2 oranges imo, if not then it‘s amazing how close Farf came to surviving on townies alone. I‘d rather believe orange can be severely weakened there.

Only problem is that we will be eating many kills most likely due to the switch from red to orange. Leads to reds are largely small as well. I bet no red has claimed a role yet.
 
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