Games Mafia Game 94 - Magi: The Crests of Magic - END GAME

Who do you consider the MVP of this game?

  • Holt

    Votes: 9 39.1%
  • + Holt

    Votes: 6 26.1%
  • - Holt

    Votes: 6 26.1%
  • -/+ Holt

    Votes: 8 34.8%
  • GrySun

    Votes: 11 47.8%
  • Belserion

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Erinwet

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Hardy

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Evil3ye

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Pando

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Boobyfosh

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Haya-san

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Margi

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Desin

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Scary Sakura

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Hermit

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Seraph

    Votes: 7 30.4%
  • Seiko

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Marma

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Distrustedspeed

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • DD

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Pompom-chan

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Jinx

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Big nose shinobi

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • James

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Shobu Oak

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Equaling Hell

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Asako and Threeson

    Votes: 3 13.0%

  • Total voters
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GrySun

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Just... I dislike being sickly and I won’t contaminate ppl unless we clear Gry’s identity and affiliation. I am very sure he is orange and his teammates are either you or Hermit. Same as I thought with Shobu.
But if you are very sure I am orange why not sickly me? You would make it easier to lynch me.

My opinion is that you couldn‘t because you had to continue using your main role. Either to kill so your buddy can escort, or being the escort yourself. You only stopped using your role after Farfalla died, so I guess you are either Escort or with the Escort in a team, so you had to give up sickly to fill either the blocking or killing role for the team.
 

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OK. And on two nights Shinobi got no result. So how can she be Paranoid? Or did I misread?
Probably because the people she targeted had no targets.
 

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Because I was angry and I refuse to use my active role when it won’t make a difference. you know, sickly is supposed to help town lynch mafias by handicapping one of the mafias, in other words, preventing 1 mafia to vote, but what is the point of preventing Gry from voting, even if he is mafia if in the end of the day, he will get everyone to lynch me while he laughs with his orange mafia friends in the pads…
Weak attempt at playing the defeatist attitude up Pom, it‘s over for you. You not sicklying should tell us that you have to do something else.
 

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But if you are very sure I am orange why not sickly me? You would make it easier to lynch me.

My opinion is that you couldn‘t because you had to continue using your main role. Either to kill so your buddy can escort, or being the escort yourself. You only stopped using your role after Farfalla died, so I guess you are either Escort or with the Escort in a team, so you had to give up sickly to fill either the blocking or killing role for the team.
Easier how? People are willing to let you live because you are freeman, you will get protection, how does sickling you prove me right if the point is that you still have town’s support?

I am not filling any role here.
 

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OK. And on two nights Shinobi got no result. So how can she be Paranoid? Or did I misread?
Night 1 she targetted me, and I was in a dungeon. No night action
Night 3 she targetted Desin, and he was the noble. No night action.

Last night she targetted me, who used my role on Crescent Jinx. But she got the result that I used my role on Hardy. Which is what makes her the paranoid spy.
 

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My suspects are you, Hermit and perharps, Demon or Brandish. Mostly you.
I trust Crescent, shinobi, evil and no one else.
I had no action last nights from my own volitio or disregard towards my sickly secondary role, and my role is passive, I am bulletproof. I was supposed to tank mafia kills while sickling I guess.
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If Cres succeeded in her investigations… Welp, until the blocker is out, she will have problems.
Am I orange or red? If I was orange I‘d have chosen to die instead of shobu, so he gets credibility by both having lynched a red and orange.
 

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Weak attempt at playing the defeatist attitude up Pom, it‘s over for you. You not sicklying should tell us that you have to do something else.
You beibg a living freeman also should tell mafia didn’t have the courage to touch you because they know you are no freeman
 

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But wouldn't she get a fake result if that was the case?
I was gonna explain but this came in first:
Night 1 she targetted me, and I was in a dungeon. No night action
Night 3 she targetted Desin, and he was the noble. No night action.

Last night she targetted me, who used my role on Crescent Jinx. But she got the result that I used my role on Hardy. Which is what makes her the paranoid spy.
 

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Am I orange or red? If I was orange I‘d have chosen to die instead of shobu, so he gets credibility by both having lynched a red and orange.
I think orange, because of trying to delay Farfy’s lynch and she was your assassin after all. If anything you could as well be a poisoner for reds and still try to get some credibility by lynching shobu. Or an escort. Tho I would need to search more whi entered dungeons when to have a better analysis on those mafia roles and the outcomes of nights.
 

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Night 1 she targetted me, and I was in a dungeon. No night action
Night 3 she targetted Desin, and he was the noble. No night action.

Last night she targetted me, who used my role on Crescent Jinx. But she got the result that I used my role on Hardy. Which is what makes her the paranoid spy.
OK thanks for the clarification. Now can you answer the question I asked yesterday? What do you think of Grysun? Shobu is dead so you can disregard him.
 

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I am more inclined to believe you as an orange considerig your behavior on both Farfy and Shobu’s lynch, but I could be wrong, dk.
 

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I haven't played MG in a while but have the rules of paranoid spy changed? I thought paranoid receives a result no matter what?
No, only if the target would‘ve had an action. So it‘s not even that easy to fake paranoid, depending on who you claim to target.
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Oh my God...

Yes...like I already said twice before. Why else give my vote.
I mean you also said emo stuff like you‘d never be voted, so just making sure if you voted Hardy as an „oh well“ or as a „here‘s a townie worthy of a vessel!“. We need to know where we each stand.
 

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Idk if the hosts will put a useless paranoid in the game, but the result I got is that you targeted Hardy.
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N1 I investigated hermit, it seemed he had active role and misunderstood the rules and looked as he wanted to back away from entering the dungeon, so I tergted him, got nothing as it turns out he entered the dungeon after all.

N2 I targeted Marma, she entered the dungeon N1 and said she won't enter N2 and she'll use her role. Targeted her, her Target was ME. This is why that day I said something weird happened and I don't know if I should laugh or cry.

N3 I targeted desin, I thought his hinst meant noble, but he never used the noble vote to show there was a noble in game, and he just came to vote bel and left again, thought he was helping farf. got no result.

N4 I targeted hermit again, I got that he targeted Hardy
Why would Marm ever protect you though?

What scum role makes sense to have been used on me last night?
 

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Paranoid Spy
  • In all cases a normal Spy wouldn‘t get a result, Paranoid would also get no result. In all cases a normal Spy would get a result, Paranoid‘s result is a randomized living player name for roles that target living players, and a randomized dead player name for roles that target dead players
    Example: Targets Bulletproof - no result. Targets a Detective(that sent his action for the night) - gets back a random player name
From the roles interaction thread^^^
 

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OK thanks for the clarification. Now can you answer the question I asked yesterday? What do you think of Grysun? Shobu is dead so you can disregard him.
Grysun? I trust him.
 

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From the get go, you assume Haya is town. And that Gry is scum.

Why do you bring up that she was probably left alive because they didn't want to double shoot her but for Gry that argument doesn't apply? Not only that, there's no mention of cres here at all but wouldn't gry be a prime candidate to be protected as well, forcing scum to avoid him? Are you avoiding the protection talk to make him look bad?

When it comes to him you really do discuss in bad faith.
Oh right, I forgot that I have to analyse all 15 players in my first morning post before having my morning coffee at 7 in the morning.

Cres is not mentioned here because I would assume the mafias are aware of the protection chain between Haya and Cres. This can only be broken by red mafia who has the escort (block haya, kill jinx). The other is obviously incapable of killing jinx right away shall Haya be legit, so they would go for someone else anyways. orange decided as long as escort is operational it is not essential to kill Haya and blocking jinx will suffice. I really thought this much would be obvious, and I wouldn't need to break it down in the first post. But seems not everyone puts as much trust in Haya as I do.

Discussing why Gry didn't die just makes no sense to me at this point. I don't buy his claim, I will prepare a big post as to why he cannot be the Freeman, and shall be lynched asap (along with my other suspects) after I finished up work. But to give you a little spoiler here, but I was considering he was baiting Freeman while being BP (didn't wanna mention that yesterday, in case mafia hasn't pick up on that), but with a BP counter claim this scenario also becomes less likely.

As I said, I'll explore lynch targets in a few hours, but also hope to get more info from @MArGi about the EM, as well as your new MV up until then.
 

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@Hermit did you poison Hardy last night?
...has someone done a recap of the kills? Does it make sense for a poisoner and two kills to happen last night?

If so then well shit.
 

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Easier how? People are willing to let you live because you are freeman, you will get protection, how does sickling you prove me right if the point is that you still have town’s support?

I am not filling any role here.
I barely survived last day, it was tight on votes at some point. You should know there are many people that‘d vote me in a heartbeat, as well as some that don‘t. Lowering the number of Gry protectors‘ votes is the best thing for you to do if you were town.

I am sorry Pom but I see no conceivable way where you are telling the truth. !votekill Lady pompom my money is on red mafia.
 

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she could be paranoid or Hermit is lying, we would need her clarification on this to know if she indeed targeted those people on the said nights.
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I barely survived last day, it was tight on votes at some point. You should know there are many people that‘d vote me in a heartbeat, as well as some that don‘t. Lowering the number of Gry protectors‘ votes is the best thing for you to do if you were town.

I am sorry Pom but I see no conceivable way where you are telling the truth. !votekill Lady pompom my money is on red mafia.
Ifyou say so, votekill Grysun

Will wIt for more info until I pock this time, but noway you are a freeman, Gry
 
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