Games Mafia Game 94 - Magi: The Crests of Magic - END GAME

Who do you consider the MVP of this game?

  • Holt

    Votes: 9 39.1%
  • + Holt

    Votes: 6 26.1%
  • - Holt

    Votes: 6 26.1%
  • -/+ Holt

    Votes: 8 34.8%
  • GrySun

    Votes: 11 47.8%
  • Belserion

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Erinwet

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Hardy

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Evil3ye

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Pando

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Boobyfosh

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Haya-san

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Margi

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Desin

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Scary Sakura

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Hermit

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Seraph

    Votes: 7 30.4%
  • Seiko

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Marma

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Distrustedspeed

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • DD

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Pompom-chan

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Jinx

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Big nose shinobi

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • James

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Shobu Oak

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Equaling Hell

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Asako and Threeson

    Votes: 3 13.0%

  • Total voters
    23

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We can‘t really judge why kills are missing, it looks like at no point were there too many scums of any color in dungeons to have no killers.

And imagine how badly we‘re losing this with just 1 mislynch and many missing kills.

What we do know however is, Farfalla was blocked on N2. We could find whoever the Escort is, but is there even a point? Unless Escort is red they won‘t hurt from losing an Escort and can still kill regardless. Ideally we would kill the last member of a team so we can stabilize this ship somehow.

Problem is, we are against like 4 players in each mafia team. Red has one, orange has(hopefully) one(Brandish‘s role is a confusing point, likely recruited Traitor?), yellow could have up to 3.

  1. GrySun - Freeman Magician + Magi
  2. Evil3ye - Banshee Magician + Magi
  3. MArGi - Townie Goi + MV Healthy Townie(EM Bulletproof)
  4. Demonspeed - Townie Goi + MV Restless Spirit(EM Sickly)
  5. Seraph - Townie Goi + MV
  6. Hermit - Psychiatrist Magician
  7. Belserion - Townie Goi + MV Burden(EM Hider)
  8. Haya-san - Doctor Magician
  9. shinobi - Spy Magician
I am town, Belserion was investigated N2 before she had her vessel equipped, so she couldn‘t pull any shenanigans with a Mafia Boss Vessel like Hardy. She could‘ve been a Mafia Boss like Pom, but so far the 3 teams look like they are wildly different in powers. I‘d like to assume she is a legit townie.

Evil fits the last red. Desperately trying to save Pom. Uncooperative. But then idk who he killed last night. Looks mostly like combat between orange and yellow. Unless Hardy never equipped Bomb and Evil killed him. Regardless, untrustworthy.

Margi, likely obtained the 4th dungeon‘s vessel. But I await to hear who was there with her, if anyone. Honestly she‘s pretty likely mafia.

Demonspeed - I can never read Demon. Some of his posts sound genuine, and at least he sicklied last night proving his hands were tied. But then he sicklies Bel for some weird reason. Maybe we should just kill him and have him use his R. Spirit vote for good if he‘s town. Hard to trust.

Seraph - didn‘t trust all game, now he‘s either sounding like the pure hearted-est townie ingame or I have lost my mind. One of the few that I want to decide to trust.

Hermit - nah I don‘t think he‘s Psychologist LOL. That ship has sailed with a 3rd mafia being revealed, honestly. Worthless results all game as well.

Haya - still alive Doctor. Mortician shows she really did protect Farfalla on N1, so either legit Doctor or Mafia Doctor. No clue where she fits into all of this, but curious who she‘d target now that Cres is dead. Likely Escort blocked, even if she is mafia, since other mafia wouldn‘t know.

shinobi - yeah miss me with that Spy play all game.
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I didn't go because I have to Spy.
Hermit didn't go because he has to kill.

easy, really.
You don‘t have to Spy. What you have to do is prove you‘re town. Which you refused to do.
 

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How didn't you get a vessel then?
I'm a magician, I went there to prove I'm not the assassin, geez, did you just wake up on day 4 and joined the game? I know we're playing for a week already, but man, get it together, Gry posted a recap just last page.
 

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I legit asked you who else you'd infect.

She said this when we didn't know about a 3rd Mafia.

She also said she has NO IDEA what this stunt will prove.

And if I remember correctly you said you'd rather not use it on someone confirmed, I mean, are you fucking kidding us Demon?
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How didn't you get a vessel then?
Hey, I didn't know about a 3rd Mafia either!
 

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Most parties have 1 member left and all suspects conveniently wanted to use their role instead of going dungeon. Brilliant.
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So the townies are: me, Bel, Seraph, Haya.

Scum is everyone else. Such BS.

At most one of the remaining 5 is town but we‘re unlikely to mislynch today with those odds.
 

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Haya has been so quiet...
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Most parties have 1 member left and all suspects conveniently wanted to use their role instead of going dungeon. Brilliant.
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So the townies are: me, Bel, Seraph, Haya.

Scum is everyone else. Such BS.

At most one of the remaining 5 is town but we‘re unlikely to mislynch today with those odds.
Why do you trust Seraph?
 

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Evil - last red
Hermit - yellow
shinobi - last orange
demonspeed - ???
margi - yellow
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Why do you trust Seraph?
Wrote it above, he was cooperative, almost always went to dungeons, doesn‘t fit Escort or any other possible roles. If he was orange he wouldn‘t kill Farf, if he was yellow he and Hardy would‘ve given it to him not Hardy. If he was red he‘d have tried not lynching Pom(I don‘t recall him supporting her much).
 

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Most parties have 1 member left and all suspects conveniently wanted to use their role instead of going dungeon. Brilliant.
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So the townies are: me, Bel, Seraph, Haya.

Scum is everyone else. Such BS.

At most one of the remaining 5 is town but we‘re unlikely to mislynch today with those odds.
I think we're done for Gry, we got like 3 votes(assuming those you listed are town), because Bel has no vote. She can share her thoughts but those manning this ship will be us.

Meanwhile we got at least 4-5 scumbags running around. They can out vote us easily and share the win. Jesus...
 

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Evil - last red
Hermit - yellow
shinobi - last orange
demonspeed - ???
margi - yellow
So yeah @everyone pick your poison and let‘s go.
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I think we're done for Gry, we got like 3 votes(assuming those you listed are town), because Bel has no vote. She can share her thoughts but those manning this ship will be us.

Meanwhile we got at least 4-5 scumbags running around. They can out vote us easily and share the win. Jesus...
They can‘t share shit, they will be infighting at night pehaps. All we can do is lynch a mafia and see who we‘re left to work with next day.
 

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The fact that my role is still being questioned in a game that has had two secondary roles show up so far already is a bit..... :Haha

I said this before and I will say it again, two of my targets are already dead (Jinx and Shobu). And you all saw they had no secondary roles. Unless you think I lucked out on those results :nono

vote kill Margi
 

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I'm not red, you're yellow though for sure.
You tried your hardest to make Pom survive with reasoning that puts my D3 shenanigans to shame LOL.

Who are even your „banshee“ targets if you‘re even still keeping track of your lies.
 

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Alright, let's do this then, I'll take a few minutes and then cast my first vote.

...man this is frustrating.
 

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The fact that my role is still being questioned in a game that has had two secondary roles show up so far already is a bit..... :Haha

I said this before and I will say it again, two of my targets are already dead (Jinx and Shobu). And you all saw they had no secondary roles. Unless you think I lucked out on those results :nono

vote kill Margi
But what‘s Psy‘s purpose in this game? To find the town Noble and to find the mafia Sickly? That‘s nothing. You found a cushy new role that‘s easy to fake.
 

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But what‘s Psy‘s purpose in this game? To find the town Noble and to find the mafia Sickly? That‘s nothing. You found a cushy new role that‘s easy to fake.
You are asking this question about a game that has only one doctor so far, one detective, and no investigator to counter the Janitor....
 

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You are asking this question about a game that has only one doctor so far, one detective, and no investigator to counter the Janitor....
I mean yeah the balance is awful. Most are seemingly magicians with trashcan roles, and the few gois we had died early. If most of our good roles were supposed to come from vessels we needed a lot more gois. And if Demon/Margi are telling the truth, scum gets Shepshifter, Bomb, Strongman, and we get Healthy townie and Restless Spirit. GTFO with that balance if they‘re telling the truth.

So likely they‘re both just lying, as without some town powers for dungeons the balance was never there to begin with. But Psychiatrist is just needless clutter any way you see it.
 

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Quick recap as well

Belsa - investigated as goi, can't be mafia boss as it's a magician role, so think is clear
Seraph - was every day in dungeon, either the mafia team's dedicated dungeon goer and late game ace or townie
Haya - Scary's result on Farfalla and the fact that marm was in Dung.2 the only reason to is not up for voting yet, will give benefit of the doubt here

Demon - orange missing goi
Margi - orange missing goi
Hermit - yellow magician or some red brainplay mafia
Shinobi - yellow escort (was never in dungeons)
Gry - probably the last red or yellow
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You tried your hardest to make Pom survive with reasoning that puts my D3 shenanigans to shame LOL.

Who are even your „banshee“ targets if you‘re even still keeping track of your lies.
I called her out the day before and told her what to do with the sickly. she couldn't use it because her mate was in the dungeon though. Which I wasn't, what's your point, I was just talking to her and trying get an other scum lynched. Brandish was just as red in my eyes.

That's why you picked such a convenient passive claim, huh. ;)
 

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The fact that my role is still being questioned in a game that has had two secondary roles show up so far already is a bit..... :Haha

I said this before and I will say it again, two of my targets are already dead (Jinx and Shobu). And you all saw they had no secondary roles. Unless you think I lucked out on those results :nono

vote kill Margi
Did you say who you checked last night?
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I maintain Shinobi's team Killed the Mortician so she could freely perform this masquerade.
 

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Voting patterns

Day 1

Holt x 5 <<< Erinyes (#114), James Rye (#268/#459), Hermit(#402),Scary Noona(#414), MArGi (#422),

Equaling Heaven X 4 <<< Lady pompom (#347), Farfalla (#356), GrySun(#430), Hardy(#457)

Hermit x 2 <<< Brandish (#192), Equaling Heaven (#226), Hardy(#330)

Demonspeed x 1 <<< Copy Panda (#45), Scary Noona (#180)

Crescent Jinx x 1 <<< GrySun (#32), Evil3ye (#331)

Brandish x 1 <<<Hermit (#41), Haya-san(#352)

Copy Panda x 1 <<< Digitaldude (#5)

GrySun x 1 <<< Evil3ye (#75), Crescent Jinx (#103)

Digitaldude x 1 <<< Shobu_Yoruichi (#149)

Haya-san x 1 <<< Demonspeed (#218)

Shinobi x 1 <<< Belserion (#235)

Belserion X 1 <<< Shinobi (#303)

Evil3ye X 1 <<< MarmaladeSky (#433)

Farfalla X 1 <<< Equaling Heaven (#442)

Day 2

James Rye x 5 <<< Erinyes (#918), Farfalla(#1004), Belserion (#1114), MarmaladeSky (#1118), Hermit (#1164)

Shobu_Yoruichi x 4 <<< shinobi(#955), desin24 (#1006), Haya-san(#1143), Hardy (#1151)

Desin x 2 <<< Penalty Vote, James Rye (#815)

Shinobi x 2 <<< Seraph (#858), MArGi (#990)

Hermit x 2 <<< Demonspeed (#1069), Lady pompom (#1105)

Seraph x 1 <<< Penalty Vote

Brandish x 1 <<< Digitaldude (#816)

Demonspeed x 1 <<< Scary Noona (#821)

Crescent Jinx x 1 <<< Shobu_Yoruichi (#848)

MarmaladeSky x 1 <<< Brandish (#883)

GrySun x 1 <<< Evil3ye(#1015)

Evil3ye x 1 <<< Crescent Jinx (#1132)

Equaling Heaven x 0 <<< Evil3ye (#833)

Lady Pompom x 0 <<< Hardy (#861), Erinyes (#875)

Day 3

Farfalla x 7 <<< Hardy (#1665) Evil3ye (#1689, #1803), Shinobi (#1780), Belserion (#1789, #1885), Seraph (#1806), Lady Pompom (#1873), Crescent Jinx (#1880)

Belserion x 7 <<< desin24 (#1740), Scary Noona (#1758), Hermit (#1764), Demonspeed (#1865), GrySun (#1874), MarmaladeSky (#1875), Shobu_Yoruichi (#1890)

Shinobi x 1 <<< Seraph (#1561), GrySun (#1672)

Evil3ye x 2 <<< Erinyes (#1581), Farfalla (#1776, #1821),

Equaling Heaven x 1 <<< Penalty Vote,

Scary Noona x 0 <<< Demonspeed (#1359)

GrySun x 0 <<< Hardy (#1385)

Shobu_Yoruichi x 1 <<< MArGi (#1567)

Demonspeed x 1 <<< Haya-san (#1596)

Day 4

Shobu_Yoruichi x 11 <<<anonymous vote, Erinyes (#2251), Equaling Heaven (#2336), Belserion (#2346), shinobi (#2364), Haya-san(#2381), MArGi (#2409), Crescent Jinx (#2429), Grysun (#2461), Hardy (#2464), Demonspeed(#2480)

GrySun x 7 <<< Penalty Vote, Evil3ye (#2082, #2426), Lady Pompom (#2157, #2207), Demonspeed (#2194), Scary Noona (#2203,#2460), Seraph (#2243), Shobu_Yoruichi (#2327),Brandish μ (#2473)

Demonspeed x 1 <<< Hardy (#2078), Hermit (#2389)

Brandish x 1 <<< Penalty Vote

Lady Pompom x 0 <<< GrySun (#2152), Brandish μ (#2342)

Day 5

Lady Pompom x 9 <<< Brandish (#2573, #2869), Erinyes (#2680), Hardy (#2708), MArGi (#2714) GrySun (#2747), Demonspeed (#2862, #2890), Belserion (#2869), Hermit (#2891), Seraph (#2892)

GrySun x 0 <<< Lady Pompom (#2620), Evil3ye (#2713)

Brandish x 4 <<< Shinobi (#2727), Hermit(#2731), Lady Pompom (#2750), Evil3ye (#2774), Haya-san (#2823)
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James Rye x 5 <<< Erinyes (#918), Farfalla(#1004), Belserion (#1114), MarmaladeSky (#1118), Hermit (#1164)

Shobu_Yoruichi x 4 <<< shinobi(#955), desin24 (#1006), Haya-san(#1143), Hardy (#1151)
Since it was between a red and an orange, and with the shock of having lost DD, I say Hermit cannot be red. No way he throws his decisive vote towards his teammate here.

Farfalla x 7 <<< Hardy (#1665) Evil3ye (#1689, #1803), Shinobi (#1780), Belserion (#1789, #1885), Seraph (#1806), Lady Pompom (#1873), Crescent Jinx (#1880)

Belserion x 7 <<< desin24 (#1740), Scary Noona (#1758), Hermit (#1764), Demonspeed (#1865), GrySun (#1874), MarmaladeSky (#1875), Shobu_Yoruichi (#1890)
This one looks very interesting. Imo either Hermit or Demon are orange for sure, no way only shobu tried saving Farf.

Shobu_Yoruichi x 11 <<<anonymous vote, Erinyes (#2251), Equaling Heaven (#2336), Belserion (#2346), shinobi (#2364), Haya-san(#2381), MArGi (#2409), Crescent Jinx (#2429), Grysun (#2461), Hardy (#2464), Demonspeed(#2480)

GrySun x 7 <<< Penalty Vote, Evil3ye (#2082, #2426), Lady Pompom (#2157, #2207), Demonspeed (#2194), Scary Noona (#2203,#2460), Seraph (#2243), Shobu_Yoruichi (#2327),Brandish μ (#2473)
Notice how Hermit didn‘t vote shobu? More orange behavior imo. Brandish also voted me.

Lady Pompom x 9 <<< Brandish (#2573, #2869), Erinyes (#2680), Hardy (#2708), MArGi (#2714) GrySun (#2747), Demonspeed (#2862, #2890), Belserion (#2869), Hermit (#2891), Seraph (#2892)

GrySun x 0 <<< Lady Pompom (#2620), Evil3ye (#2713)

Brandish x 4 <<< Shinobi (#2727), Hermit(#2731), Lady Pompom (#2750), Evil3ye (#2774), Haya-san (#2823)
This one confuses me though, he voted Brandish and only changes much later. Maybe he always intended to switch, hard to tell. Early Pom voters as you see were from different factions. So last rad is either Evil3ye, shinobi, or one of the very last people to vote Pom(since it didn‘t make a difference anymore).

Soo..

Hermit -> orange
shinobi -> red(couldn‘t go into dungeon, Pom died and had to kill)

More will be apparent depending on what the lynched person today flips as, as well as next night. Don‘t forget this post please, copy it and edit the colors with the next few dead people at start of next day.
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I‘m possibly wasting all this time and effort in an unwinnable game anyway, may not matter who is lynched here. Maybe it‘s better not to finish off the red/orange team because otherwise yellow may just outnumber the remaining townies.

Will rest for now. I don‘t think we can mess up the lynch much today regardless, so all this is for next day.
 
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