Games Mafia Game 94 - Magi: The Crests of Magic - END GAME

Who do you consider the MVP of this game?

  • Holt

    Votes: 9 39.1%
  • + Holt

    Votes: 6 26.1%
  • - Holt

    Votes: 6 26.1%
  • -/+ Holt

    Votes: 8 34.8%
  • GrySun

    Votes: 11 47.8%
  • Belserion

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Erinwet

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Hardy

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Evil3ye

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Pando

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Boobyfosh

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Haya-san

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Margi

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Desin

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Scary Sakura

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Hermit

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Seraph

    Votes: 7 30.4%
  • Seiko

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Marma

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Distrustedspeed

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • DD

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Pompom-chan

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Jinx

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Big nose shinobi

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • James

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Shobu Oak

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Equaling Hell

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Asako and Threeson

    Votes: 3 13.0%

  • Total voters
    23

MArGi

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Didn't you say you voted me coz I disappeared? well I told you didn't. Aren't you changing your vote before you leave?
All right last post, I really have to leave...
Why are you only lurking and not asking questions? I will maybe change my vote depending on what you say and if I have enough time to come back before the day ends.
 

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All right last post, I really have to leave...
Why are you only lurking and not asking questions? I will maybe change my vote depending on what you say and if I have enough time to come back before the day ends.
I did ask question during the dp, check if you want . But I have a feeling you won't have time to come back and change your vote anyway.
 

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Ah Jesus Christ I give up writing some long basis post with a baby jumping on me. Votekill James for now. Again, unrelated to his Holt vote (tho his incorrectly based vote on Des is also a thing), I just felt he was low key planting suspicion on people in Pandu's dungeon. That's also cause I don't rly see Gry, Margi or Sakura as a mafia person that wanted Pandu's vessel (can elaborate later), and imo the killers reason to get Pandu was still vessel related. Now with only some hours left, a small tie and many people to vote, I wanna see how things do as well.
 

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Considering I won't be around day close this time, doing my suspects list now to have a chance to discuss it before voting and leaving for the day (am attending a ticketed event irl).

Dungeon 1
Gry
, voted for Jinx then changed for EH when Holt was being train-voted making a counter-train. Said he would voted for Panda, who is dead now. Refuses to indicate any role and really being one of the few uncooperative ones to neither disclose the magician/goi status. Ironically my very first "incorrectly made" vote on him day 1 holds the more truth now making me really want him again just to put on pressure and make him talk. - ergo suspicious, my vote candidate
Scary Noona, had a turbulent first day by making strong hints, then quickly regretting it saying she threw herself to the wolves by doing it. However, went for the dungeon despite active role claim. I already talked about how this doesn't make sense to me unless it's necromancer, which she challenged having saying my data is wrong, but really just making it look more and more like a slip up. That together with the vote on Holt who flipped townie can be easily read as mafia behaviour to protect one of the other voted guys on the list (Hermit 3 votes, Jinx 2 votes, Demon 2 votes, EH 2 votes) - suspicious, also consider voting
Margi, day 1 striked rather town to me, except the Holt vote, again, ending up in the same dungeon in which Gry and Sakura announced to be going. Could have been silently following one of them as the team's respective Mafia goi - suspicious, wouldn't vote her out yet though, until we get more information on the MV

Dungeon 2
Hermit
ended up in top lynch spot after Hardy put him forwards and broke the tie between him, Gry and I think Demon. However, he somehow was very trusted by several people (Gry and Farfalla come to mind), which I always find very odd in early game. As a magician he announced to go to dungeon then was asking questions about if he has to stay there or could leave or switch, which makes sense to me as I found myself in same situation. He chose to stay, I didn't really understand the reasoning behind it while asking, and said that he voted Erin, although digital got the MV. Seemed genuine to me, because he said it right away. If digital would have been his Mafia goi and he voted for him, that pretty much could have screwed him over. He couldn't possibly know Erin is magician unless she is in their team. There's still something odd going on with Hermit, for me suspicious, but not vote material as of just yet
Digital, I was really confused as to how on earth he got the MV based on him laying low on day 1 as much as he did. This makes me really wonder that him announcing to go to dungeon 2 was an invitation for his commrades to follow and give him the vote. I consider it pretty suspicious, but same as with Margi wanna see what comes of the MV thingy
Erinyes, already explained that for me all magicians going to dungeons night 1 are sus. Her explanation really seems not solid to me, suspicious.
Marmalade, same as Erin in regards of quietly entering dungeon 2, but had also this random late game vote on day 1, which has been already explained it's a throw-away action. On my terms suspicious and a vote candidate.

Dungeon 3
EH
, kind of feel like the Holt train could have been just as well to protect him and not Hermit. He had the second Farfalla vote and some more people were also suspecting him. Claiming to be the scapegoat didn't really work for me, as it might as well be townies that were very vary of the train on Holt and tried to stop mafia there. Day 2 I wanna say I perceived him as much more lay-lowish, perhaps after being on the lynch block that is the extra caution. For me suspicious
Belsa
, very neutral, little post count. The fact that she selfvoted as a goi and also didn't get the MV makes me lean towards town goi, so not suspicious for now
Demon, similar to Belsa to be honest. not suspicious for now
Shobu, there were a couple of oddities around him, but the fact that he said he voted for Hardy makes me trust him bit more. He said it while everyone already said they self-voted and if Hardy would have been in his team it would have been better to just say self-vote as well and blame RNG instead of unnecessarily tying himself to his mafia pal. leaning more town so not suspicious for me
Hardy, always bit sus for me to see people winning MVs but I guess that could be just the game here. He did the EH vote trying to counter Holt train, but I suspect EH much more than him, kinda lean more towards town so not suspicious for me right now.

Now everybody's favourite bunch and confirmed killer among them,
Top 10 Outsiders

Evil, I'll leave the analysis to those who wanna throw shade on me. Obviously I know my role magician townie
Brandish on day 1 was the only goi claimer which made me trust him, however, he ended up not joining a dungeon which several people pointed out as weird. But I'm not gonna be among the ones blaming somebody not having a clear view of the game machanics instantly, being one of the bunch myself, so in my eyes it's an honest townie mistake, leaning town and not suspicious for now
Lady Pompom, honestly don't know why there is suspicion around her. She cannot be the killer, and her choice to target Gry makes perfect sense to me, seeing as I find him sus myself. Kind of even looks like she's being framed for little reason now. I consider her not suspicious.
Desin, somebody threw at him something along the lines like - if the role is boring, why didn't you join the dungeon. lmao :fail like that couldn't have been an adjective to try get mafia off the back and hiding a good role. For me it's a natural townie play so not suspicious, so please get off his back
Shinobi, hinted to never having the role before pretty early, confirming to not be a goi but a magician, also not suspicious for me.
Haya, I felt like she was trying to understand what goi even are, gave me the feeling that she's a magician. She confirmed it on day 2, so I am cool with that and see her as not suspicious.
Crescent Jinx, I am somewhat suspicious of Jinx, based on day 1 performance as well as the Holt train. She was sort of evasive even mischievously flirty when she came towards the end. And after I placed the vote on her she was in the top lynch conditates, which as said before I saw could have attributed for the Holt train as well. For me it's somewhat suspicious but not in vote range.
Farfalla, lot of people place her in her trusted lists based on the play style. Which I don't really agree with, because she's a discreet and great mafia player as well from what I remember. I kind of haven't picked up any hints on her, which makes me bit vary of her, I would place her in a mildly suspicious range, definitely not someone I would consider voting for yet though.
Seraph, said he is a goi today, was really not that active day 1. I thinking to give him the benefit of the doubt and consider it an honest mistake as happened to Brando, but I am really neutral about him, saying not suspicious is even generous, but leaning bit more towards town than mafia right now.
James hides behind his huge walls of texts, but when it comes to explain his Holt vote he keeps stuttering. I find him suspicious and if we were to settle on a Top 10 Outsiders, I would prefer him over all the others, but really don't think we should go the Top 10 route.
 

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So instead of focusing on those no dungeoners we let the time pass discussing that we should discuss all 10+ other players? Top move. Either way
votekill Shobu

it seems to me that he is trying to play the same route as last game which admittedly got him far enough. Maybe this will motivate him to talk.
 

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can someone please repost the day 2 dungeon list attendees? I need to run soon and have no time to look
 

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Not going to a dungeon today unless we are missing spots
 

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Obviously there are Mafias among the Dungeon Dwellers and Non Dungeon Dwellers. But how do you think they are spread? 2 among the DD and 4 among the NDD? Something else?
 

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It should only declared goi go, who dont have a MV yet, so we spread the MVs as evenly as possible and mafia don't snipe them right away.

Not going to a dungeon today unless we are missing spots
Pls don't :fail

Anyways gotta run,

VOTEKILL GRY

Reasons as stated above
 

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Obviously there are Mafias among the Dungeon Dwellers and Non Dungeon Dwellers. But how do you think they are spread? 2 among the DD and 4 among the NDD? Something else?
Why are you going for the 6th dungeon btw? ET will probably self vote and he asked Seraph to vote for him too, so you won't get anything right?
 

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Why are you going for the 6th dungeon btw? ET will probably self vote and he asked Seraph to vote for him too, so you won't get anything right?
Because the two others are the same. I want something different.
 
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