Games Mafia Game 94 - Magi: The Crests of Magic - END GAME

Who do you consider the MVP of this game?

  • Holt

    Votes: 9 39.1%
  • + Holt

    Votes: 6 26.1%
  • - Holt

    Votes: 6 26.1%
  • -/+ Holt

    Votes: 8 34.8%
  • GrySun

    Votes: 11 47.8%
  • Belserion

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Erinwet

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Hardy

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Evil3ye

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Pando

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Boobyfosh

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Haya-san

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Margi

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Desin

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Scary Sakura

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Hermit

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Seraph

    Votes: 7 30.4%
  • Seiko

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Marma

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Distrustedspeed

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • DD

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Pompom-chan

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Jinx

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Big nose shinobi

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • James

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Shobu Oak

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Equaling Hell

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Asako and Threeson

    Votes: 3 13.0%

  • Total voters
    23
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so who followed DD?
James Rye x 5 <<< Erinyes (#918), Farfalla(#1004), Belserion (#1114), MarmaladeSky (#1118), Hermit (#1164)
DD was in dungeon with Erin, Marm and Hermit. All 3 of them were crucial in lynching James, who was DD's teammate. Why help one get a vessel then lynch another of their own?

It's very possible that DD really just got lucky. Especially with the sudden loss of DD, no red would lynch James to make the pain hurt even more.
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So at most they can be oranges, not reds.
 

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What day action? Didnt he say he was Goi?
Yup he said he was goi, and i have no clue why he didnt join on N1 a dunjeon and both EH and Seraph did agree for the dunjeon they will join on N2, so i really want to hear more abt seraph.
 

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What day action? Didnt he say he was Goi?
I meant that to enter a dungeon you must sacrifice both day and night action if you have one. So whoever entered a dungeon cant be neither assassin nor night killer because - again - it consumes both actions.
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Dungeons

Every day phase until there are no more dungeons left, metal vessel dungeons appear in the game and each has an element.

By using their action for the day and following night, a player can enter the dungeon and vote on which Goi gets a chance to get a Metal Vessel. This means players entering a dungeon cannot use their role ability, if any, that day phase or night phase, but can vote in the dungeon that night.

Who gets the Metal Vessel is decided based on the votes via PMs of those who entered the dungeon and the Rukh of those who have since passed.
 

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Now let's assume they are oranges. We can take a good guess that reds failed their janitor kill, and Panda died to an orange. Why would they kill Panda, if the goal is a metal vessel, and not DD who was with 1 or 2 of them in the same dungeon?

So it's possible they're not oranges either. Or at least 1 of them was and left it up to rng chance and selfvoted, thinking everyone will selfvote, but lost to DD in coinflip. Then using their kill on Panda to frame someone in first dungeon. So between Erin, Hermit and Marm there can only be 1 orange, but not 2 oranges or X reds.

This brings us to the scummiest dungeon, the third one. Featuring Demon, Heaven, Hardy, Shobu and Bel. Among those 5 we will find more scum, but I suggest leaving them for after we settle the Panda killer and assassin story.

But main point is, Hermit and Marm aren't red. DD lucked out.
 

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So what do we have here? Assassin can't be a MV nor a N2 dungeon fellow. Does this helps narrow things a bit more?
 

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im currently updating the list i will post it later waiting maybe some more infos but if you need heres some data you might think of

Panda's killer among N1 non dungeons goers
Lady Pompom -cant be since she used sickly
Evil
Brandish
Desin
Shinobi
Haya
Crescent Jinx
Farfalla
James->
cant be since hes jani-boi
Seraph

Assassin is among N2 non dungeons goers :
Lady Pompom - cant be she used sickly
Erinyes
Desin
Shinobi
Haya
Crescent Jinx
Farfalla
Seraph
Hermit
Grysun
Marmalade
Hardy
Shobu
people that appear in both lists:

Desin
Shinobi
Haya
Crescent Jinx
Farfalla
Seraph

Those people are either active, or one of them is a killer, it doesn’t say much about the assassin, but at least we have a list.

I suspect Hardy to be mafia still, his behavior and jumpiness is just too strange, even if he says he equipped the vessel, he could be lying too, mind you.

Gry is also strange for surviving long, with this claim I think I may know what he wants to claim.

Of the other people, I also believe Shobu, Hermit and Scary Noona could be mafia, maybe shinobi too, both from the lists, behavior and other things like the votings on both D1 and D2, sincere, Shobu gave the vessel to Hardy and that was odd imo. There are also too many ppl in the shadows and as usual, the ones discussing during days are suspected the most.
 

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dungeon dwellers for n2 where DD went
Two votes on grysun already hmmm.
You'd prefer David right? :heh
3way tie if last game is any indication they are all mafia.
I got a role, PARTY ROCK IS IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT WE ABOUT TO HAVE A REAL GOOD TIME.
So since I was the only goi in the dungeon I got the vessel?
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I guess I dont need to enter dungeons anymore.
Not too many specified where they want to go publicly. Strange that @MArGi went with life dungeon knowing me and Panda are going there and she‘d have low chances of getting the vessel unless Panda had an accident.

  • Can everyone say why they went to the dungeon they went to?
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Are you scum
I will tell a hint to my friends.....look for the second word in the dungeon not the element.
Scary noona margi and james rye the last voters on holt. Hermit started the train but he was defending himself. Hmmm
wait evil said he would enter dungeon but never did?
The last second hardy vote on equaling heaven, its strange it doesnt seem like it would change much since holt had a 2 vote lead on equaling heaven plus two more vote locks. EH would have needed 6 votes to get killed. So why wait to the absolute last second for such an important vote. hmm
Now since grysun was sickened we can deduce this.....grysun isnt the sickly townie and he didnt enter dungeon. It's possible he was copypanda murder!!
desin has a boring role but didnt enter dungeons hmmm.
here's a series of quotes from DD that i found very interesting.
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ignore the brandish quote idk how that got in there
 

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I meant that to enter a dungeon you must sacrifice both day and night action if you have one. So whoever entered a dungeon cant be neither assassin nor night killer because - again - it consumes both actions.
Yes but Goi don't sacrifice anything since we have no starting role yet you specified "day action" so I was just curious. I understand. Thanks.
 

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I even revealed Necro with the intent of making Mafia way more aware of their picks, because if they accidentaly down a strong role I can simply snatch it at any given moment and ask for protection during the usage. Mafia can't careleslly kill rn and they can't even target me because it will just prove my innocence. Or they could and frame those who were on me. :cheez Can't see how I would make myself more trustworthy.
 

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plot twist both hardy and gry are mafos xDDDD at each other's throats either diff teams or in the hopes of gaining credibility if one is lynched
 

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Aside from hermit, who was on the 3-way tie? Was it holt and...?
 

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What is everyone's thought on Hardy's theory that Gry is assassin?
 

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Aside from hermit, who was on the 3-way tie? Was it holt and...?
I can try reconstructing it somewhat, but no way to make it pretty.

First it was like this:

GrySun x 2 <<< Evil3ye (#75), Crescent Jinx (#103)
Demonspeed x 2 <<< Copy Panda (#45), Scary Noona (#180)
Hermit x 2 <<< Brandish (#192), Equaling Heaven (#226)

Then Holt joined the fray.

Holt x 2 <<< Erinyes (#114), James Rye (#268)

Then Hermit went up, breaking the tie(somewhere ~5 hours left)

Hermit x 3 <<< Brandish (#192), Equaling Heaven (#226), Hardy(#330)
GrySun x 2 <<< Evil3ye (#75), Crescent Jinx (#103)
Demonspeed x 2 <<< Copy Panda (#45), Scary Noona (#180)
Holt x 2 <<< Erinyes (#114), James Rye (#268)

Then Evil went from me to Cres

GrySun x 1 <<< Evil3ye (#75), Crescent Jinx (#103)
Crescent Jinx x 2 <<< GrySun (#32), Evil3ye (#331)

A couple more votes and time later, we see this:

Hermit x 3 <<< Brandish (#192), Equaling Heaven (#226), Hardy(#330)
Equaling Heaven X 2 <<< Lady pompom (#347), Farfalla (#356)
Demonspeed x 2 <<< Copy Panda (#45), Scary Noona (#180)
Holt x 2 <<< Erinyes (#114), James Rye (#268)
Crescent Jinx x 2 <<< GrySun (#32), Evil3ye (#331)
Brandish x 2 <<< Hermit (#41), Haya-san(#352)

Then finally approaching this:

Hermit x 3 <<< Brandish (#192), Equaling Heaven (#226), Hardy(#330)
Holt x 4 <<< Erinyes (#114), James Rye (#268), Hermit(#402),Scary Noona(#414)
Equaling Heaven X 2 <<< Lady pompom (#347), Farfalla (#356)
Demonspeed x 1 <<< Copy Panda (#45), Scary Noona (#180)

Then finally day ends with this:

Holt x 5 <<< Erinyes (#114), James Rye (#268/#459), Hermit(#402),Scary Noona(#414), MArGi (#422),
Equaling Heaven X 4 <<< Lady pompom (#347), Farfalla (#356), GrySun(#430), Hardy(#457)

Hosts had not updated the count much inbetween the last 2.
 

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dungeon dwellers for n2 where DD went
























here's a series of quotes from DD that i found very interesting.
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ignore the brandish quote idk how that got in there
Did DD vote anyone yesterday before dying? Or he died before voting?
 

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Frankly I don't see a big significance behind D1 due to my assumptions that Heaven is town and Hermit cannot be with James and DD. Nobody for James to want to try saving.

If anything an orange was saved, but we have no known dead oranges to compare.
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Remember this post for when if I'm dead and you want to check details behind D1 votes later.
 
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