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Who do you consider the MVP of this game?

  • Holt

    Votes: 9 39.1%
  • + Holt

    Votes: 6 26.1%
  • - Holt

    Votes: 6 26.1%
  • -/+ Holt

    Votes: 8 34.8%
  • GrySun

    Votes: 11 47.8%
  • Belserion

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Erinwet

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Hardy

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Evil3ye

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Pando

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Boobyfosh

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Haya-san

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Margi

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Desin

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Scary Sakura

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Hermit

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Seraph

    Votes: 7 30.4%
  • Seiko

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Marma

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Distrustedspeed

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • DD

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Pompom-chan

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Jinx

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Big nose shinobi

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • James

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Shobu Oak

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Equaling Hell

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Asako and Threeson

    Votes: 3 13.0%

  • Total voters
    23

Erinyes

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for now im going to vote evil, theres a couple of things im concerned with him since yesterday, he was already in grey area in my list already, but he moved on one of the most suspicious for all the reasons I already mentioned in the game, i know hes not the assassin he entered dungeon to prove it but he still might have been Panda killer.
Ofc im willing to change my vote if any new info is revealed, theres a couple of other players in grey area to me (like EH, Shobu, desin...) , so i might end up changing my vote.

Votekill Evil
for now
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seraph and shinobi are so cute :love
 

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Btw who are the other two Magi?
 

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Pressure them and the MVs.

 

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If i had an active role, which everyone was aware of that i do, i would've shared any kind of results today already. Infact, i'm pretty sure D3 is around the time that people would've started pressuring me into doing so. But i got no role so i can't do anything about it other than share my dungeon and who i voted. Or well question people.

She has a role, and only flails it around in front of our noses instead of doing anything helpful with it. She doesn't seem like she wants to cooperate too much either.
Idk why you act as a paragon of what's good or bad when you casually (iirc) revealed you were a freeman like a year ago.

If she was scum you don't think she would have a lie ready? After two nights, not even a shit one?
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@shinobi have you said anything about your role? Have you mentioned any suspect? Any trustworthy player?
 

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Idk why you act as a paragon of what's good or bad when you casually (iirc) revealed you were a freeman like a year ago.

If she was scum you don't think she would have a lie ready? After two nights, not even a shit one?
Big "maybe" on the "casually". The fact of the matter is that what i said was true, had i a role, now would be the time for me to spill it. Just to be clear, i didn't say to claim, i wanted any kind of targets or maybe if she wants to a result. But even that hasn't happened. We know she had a crazy or fun night, that's very informative...

If she was scum she wouldn't bother telling us a lie because she'd slip up with it, that has actually happened before, and i don't judge her to be someone who wouldn't learn from that. Although, fair enough, i haven't played in awhile. Maybe she'd go with this shtick again.

I don't trust her, do you feel secure about her? Or are there any doubts?
 

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My head was very confused about who the “she” is in these posts for a second 🥲

I’m not one of the Magi’s either btw

Also
Did you use it? Anything you can share?
Yes, I used it, like I said I would. :nod
Nothing interesting to share about it though
 

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Big "maybe" on the "casually". The fact of the matter is that what i said was true, had i a role, now would be the time for me to spill it. Just to be clear, i didn't say to claim, i wanted any kind of targets or maybe if she wants to a result. But even that hasn't happened. We know she had a crazy or fun night, that's very informative...

If she was scum she wouldn't bother telling us a lie because she'd slip up with it, that has actually happened before, and i don't judge her to be someone who wouldn't learn from that. Although, fair enough, i haven't played in awhile. Maybe she'd go with this shtick again.

I don't trust her, do you feel secure about her? Or are there any doubts?
Really? Unless she's a lone third party it'd be a whole team helping her organise thoughts into a claim. I don't think it's particularly an indicative of alignment.

Can't trust someone that barely played if at all. But unfortunately that label fits a bunch of people so... Yeah. From the top of my head Demon and Marm have barely engaged with anyone, and you are mostly only doing it now on what could be an easy target.
 

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@Demonspeed Have you entered another Dungeon today?

@MarmaladeSky You said you used your role right? And you also said there wouldn't be anything interesting to share right? In what regards? :grumble
 

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Can't trust someone that barely played if at all. But unfortunately that label fits a bunch of people so... Yeah.
Back to this, it's also (annoyingly?) odd how little votes there were these two days. Very little pressure from anyone towards anyone else, votes only start coming in the last third of the day when the time to discuss is running short and a good bunch are "placeholder don't think too much into it teehee". I don't know if this is a meta thing, being so fearful? I'd expect people like Evil and Gry to do this anyway.
 

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To be honest I‘ve been a bit dumbstruck since Cres was making some allegations of Farf and Bel, so I mostly did a full stop with my posts awaiting… something to happen there. Because derailing with something else when it feels like a new revelation is just around the corner could just be a waste.

I think I‘d have followed up with voting shinobi after that post of the assassin nightkiller but could waste the first vote.

The difficult part in our meta is really how limited votes are, even the first vote can‘t be done too lightly because as soon as your suspicions change your next vote is final.
 

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We need a vote bot so we can remove the vote limit

@Pat
 

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To be honest I‘ve been a bit dumbstruck since Cres was making some allegations of Farf and Bel, so I mostly did a full stop with my posts awaiting… something to happen there. Because derailing with something else when it feels like a new revelation is just around the corner could just be a waste.
This. Waiting patiently for the big reveal. Depending on what it is I know where my vote is going. Unless of course one of me/Farf is about to get conveniently sniped from a rooftop.
 

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Im fixing to head home and will write. Have to think how to word it. Will tag you two ladies when I do post the connection
 

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Catched up and mass-quoted bunch of posts, but kinda already forgot where the thread of thoughts was, so just gonna reply to these couple addressing me, before making my own larger analysis read on players.

Evil, I didn't enter a dungeon cause people didn't seem to commit to it anyway (and even you was quite permissive on that considering the amount of people online at that time). I preferred to use my role cause I chose it's benefit over showing I'm not the assassin (it wouldn't even show I'm not mafia overall as well, which could be something you're trying to attach yourself to btw). Argue all you want, people can still run more assertive checks on me, I'm happy with my decision seeing how things turned out.
I have the impression from hints maybe someone else also has my role, which is noteworthy and odd but I don't suspect the said person per se. I could reveal it since I don't think the lightning will hit the same place twice, but since what I'm talking about is just a past possibility, there's also benefit in leaving it be if said possibility didn't come thru. Plus I'm getting too tired of early exposing myself and even getting offed when others don't follow thru (specially in this game... D4 and people still gave no hints on roles or vessels and won't argue back on that). What j said now should be enough info for you to put it together tho. You're funny, saying I never shared a hint when you didn't care about looking for it not even in Erin's recaps - I was the most vocal one discussing we should be collecting them from all magicians even before.

And I kinda don't like the way you're approaching things. For example, focusing on people like Erin and Sakura that kept countering your shade attempts (the thing you could still use on Erin was the fact she didn't enter a dungeon now - but considering she basically shared the nature of her role and you fed her with wrong info that the dungeon wouldn't trigger it, can you blame her lol, you led her out yourself). Sakura had cornered herself enough since very early, unlike anyone else. My guess for her role was investigator, and no I didn't check her past roles, just the other hints, but you even ignored her correcting your narrative so you could conveniently proceed with it. There's a behavior change in you as well, from collected info gathering to harassing the biggest amount of players possible, grasping for straws sometimes like in those two mentioned cases, which is quite noticeable to me - and it happened immediately after a mafia team took a major blow and failed to kill, lol. It's as if you're shooting everywhere to see what you can get, do even trust someone to some extend at this point? Are you that stressed?

Now yeah gonna finish back reading and write my thoughts on some other people.
So, there is a change in behaviour you noticed, from beginning of the game (first two days) in which I didn't play like in my previous games, and now I do? So that makes me like what, a reverse Traitor, or unrecruited mafia? Don't really know where you're going here but I just cut it short by again saying that I had a very busy past few days, thus could not attribute as much attention to the game as I wanted. In fact the situation you discribed with the last day, I even announced I am leaving the game for the day as I had irl to attend to. Though kept checking and got drawn back in when the huge day kill event happened and was frenetically typing as fast as I could on the phone in the last hour to come up with some ways to help find the killer or at least narrow it down as far as possibly. Sorry it didn't live up to your standards, but you could have like you know, helped as well, not just low-key agree with it. Have you done that the Assassin list could have been much shorter, as we had two vacant dungeon spots.

Long story short, the weekend is over and I have more time to dedicate and pressure people as you perhaps were expecting before, which I somehow failed to meet (yet being among the top posters). But it seems those character-change analysis suspicion posts are always just going in circles so stopping here, as either way I play seems to be simply wrong in someones eyes, so that's that.

for now im going to vote evil, theres a couple of things im concerned with him since yesterday, he was already in grey area in my list already, but he moved on one of the most suspicious for all the reasons I already mentioned in the game, i know hes not the assassin he entered dungeon to prove it but he still might have been Panda killer.
Ofc im willing to change my vote if any new info is revealed, theres a couple of other players in grey area to me (like EH, Shobu, desin...) , so i might end up changing my vote.

Votekill Evil for now
Find it anyways bit disappointing you are saying I cooperated on your request to go into the dungeon myself to make the list shorter, but anywayy thank you very much Erin, for at least giving some reasons and not going for a "don't know who else to vote for"-vote (shout-out to Marm & Jinx ;))

Back to this, it's also (annoyingly?) odd how little votes there were these two days. Very little pressure from anyone towards anyone else, votes only start coming in the last third of the day when the time to discuss is running short and a good bunch are "placeholder don't think too much into it teehee". I don't know if this is a meta thing, being so fearful? I'd expect people like Evil and Gry to do this anyway.
Expect what exactly from people like me, I don't get.
 

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I don't think I'll be around for the rest of the night, so Votekill Demon

Demon, you seem one of the most harmless players in this game to me. It almost worries me how willing I am to trust you. So, consider this me returning the favor for voting me on D1:D
 

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finally done!! :pleased
I mean the meaning is in the post you quoted :oh Say you have an Assassin that will be killing daily from next day, but still need a killer for tonight. Do you have the assassin do the kill, or some other random goonie?
Just for the scenario he was drawing, where Pandu's killer and the assassin would be the same person.
Yeah got it, many lists were posted :shootme

@shinobi have you said anything about your role? Have you mentioned any suspect? Any trustworthy player?
About my role, I said it's one that I never got it before. I did say early (the first?) that I have a role in this game were most felt the need to hide it at first for some reason.
to answer your other questions:
About the Panda killer list of: Pompom, Evil, Cres, Desin, farf, James (dead), Seraph, Brandish, Haya and myself. It's not pom and Haya was obviously doc or prost. and Brandish kinda claimed, I think Cres and desin I have a guess at their roles, Farf she looks town enough , Seraph idk honestly and same for Evil.

The assassin list I need to look at it again, I think he's one of the guys who entered the dungeons N1 and didn't N2, the ones I remember are Hermit, Shubo, Grysun, Erin, Seraph and Marm and the only one who looks trustworthy there is Erin.

for others, you I thought were decent but late at the dp2 and especially the vote you made looked weird and attempt to save James. Bel I don't know but it seems Cres will help there. Demon no thoughts, Margi 50/50, EH ans Scary claimed and looks ok for now.
 

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Catched up and mass-quoted bunch of posts, but kinda already forgot where the thread of thoughts was, so just gonna reply to these couple addressing me, before making my own larger analysis read on players.

So, there is a change in behaviour you noticed, from beginning of the game (first two days) in which I didn't play like in my previous games, and now I do? So that makes me like what, a reverse Traitor, or unrecruited mafia? Don't really know where you're going here but I just cut it short by again saying that I had a very busy past few days, thus could not attribute as much attention to the game as I wanted. In fact the situation you discribed with the last day, I even announced I am leaving the game for the day as I had irl to attend to. Though kept checking and got drawn back in when the huge day kill event happened and was frenetically typing as fast as I could on the phone in the last hour to come up with some ways to help find the killer or at least narrow it down as far as possibly. Sorry it didn't live up to your standards, but you could have like you know, helped as well, not just low-key agree with it. Have you done that the Assassin list could have been much shorter, as we had two vacant dungeon spots.

Long story short, the weekend is over and I have more time to dedicate and pressure people as you perhaps were expecting before, which I somehow failed to meet (yet being among the top posters). But it seems those character-change analysis suspicion posts are always just going in circles so stopping here, as either way I play seems to be simply wrong in someones eyes, so that's that.

Find it anyways bit disappointing you are saying I cooperated on your request to go into the dungeon myself to make the list shorter, but anywayy thank you very much Erin, for at least giving some reasons and not going for a "don't know who else to vote for"-vote (shout-out to Marm & Jinx ;))

Expect what exactly from people like me, I don't get.
To use your vote. It's not just for lynching.
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I don't think I'll be around for the rest of the night, so Votekill Demon

Demon, you seem one of the most harmless players in this game to me. It almost worries me how willing I am to trust you. So, consider this me returning the favor for voting me on D1:D
If it wasn't for the fact I believe your claim and dislike demon I'd find this alarming.
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Do I have to go back and check on Brandish or he didn't claim and Shinobi got it wrong?
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Shino those are barely thoughts on players it's mostly "they claimed X and I think this other player could be hinting Y".
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I take my like back
 

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Shino those are barely thoughts on players it's mostly "they claimed X and I think this other player could be hinting Y".
I was only answering the question, a summary of who I trust, don't trust, don't know anything about, who I believe their claim.
 

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The connection between you guys has less to do with lovers or posts and more to do with my role. Anna doesn’t have the patience for her role. I have been it before and was a little cra-cra all game which makes Bels read on me all the funnier (same role as that game , props girl)

@Farfalla and @Belserion

one of you is mafia and one is town

Got innocent on one of you and guilty on the other.
 
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