Games Mafia Game 94 - Magi: The Crests of Magic - END GAME

[Asako]

Here the results of everything

 

[Erinyes]

I want to kill!

 

[GrySun]

No no, more likely a MV of either scum or town, since they never used it for the Farf/James lynches.

Ok getting too many thoughts wrong, break time.

 

[Erinyes]

a goi could have performed the kill too ? a goi in process of being equipped cant use his/her MV but when outside the dungeon a mafia goi can still kill right whether hey fully equipped or not ?

 

[GrySun]

a goi could have performed the kill too ? a goi in process of being equipped cant use his/her MV but when outside the dungeon a mafia goi can still kill right whether hey fully equipped or not ?

Yes they can kill too. But they are subject to the rules of the team like magicians. Can‘t kill if a teammate is killing/assassin is used. Only exception to the rule is a MV probably.

 

[Erinyes]

Red mafias also have a Noble now that I think of it, because of yesterday. But why they‘re saving me in favor of shobu idk. Or it‘s a town MV.

likely a MV, i think Noona mentioned it being a townie vote and that she would explain why later, it could be either mafia or townie.

 

[Evil3ye]

Keep in mind, shinobi‘s claim could be handcrafted to blame Hermit for Noona‘s death as she could‘ve confirmed Hermit is lying. And have a paranoid role fallback for the mislynch. But even a fake paranoid claim can make a mistake so not sure if I‘d lynch her today.

So you don't trust shinobi? She claimed after him and his role was revealed since yesterday. Her first three results are convenient enough, with first target making no sense whatsoever. I think it is bit of a strech though to do such bold play as mafia. In endgame maybe, but the numbers are not there yet.

We have 14 players, we suspect 4 to be mafia. and having it 10-2-2 right now. Which is kind of ridiculous to pull that now, just to get a townie lynched. We could be totally wrong though and underestimate the numbers and the deathless nights might have been traitor recruitings.

 

[Erinyes]

@Evil3ye whats your role again ( did i miss it ) ?

 

[GrySun]

So you don't trust shinobi? She claimed after him and his role was revealed since yesterday. Her first three results are convenient enough, with first target making no sense whatsoever. I think it is bit of a strech though to do such bold play as mafia. In endgame maybe, but the numbers are not there yet.

We have 14 players, we suspect 4 to be mafia. and having it 10-2-2 right now. Which is kind of ridiculous to pull that now, just to get a townie lynched. We could be totally wrong though and underestimate the numbers and the deathless nights might have been traitor recruitings.

Not sure yet, but how does one fail so badly at Spy for 3 nights to only have something night 4? Convenient results for sure, but I agree it could be that she‘s town. I wanna go back to some of her older posts and see if her results really match what she said at days(I recall something about her messing up or being confused).

Yeah could be more scums than we expec but what can we do? We only have lynches, and so far only mislynched D1. Our trap-kill roles seem ineffective as well.

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@Evil3ye whats your role again ( did i miss it ) ?

He‘s Banshee.

 

[shinobi]

Keep in mind, shinobi‘s claim could be handcrafted to blame Hermit for Noona‘s death as she could‘ve confirmed Hermit is lying. And have a paranoid role fallback for the mislynch. But even a fake paranoid claim can make a mistake so not sure if I‘d lynch her today.

Red mafias also have a Noble now that I think of it, because of yesterday. But why they‘re saving me in favor of shobu idk. Or it‘s a town MV.

I didn't lie about my role or results. Idk if I'm paranoid but I didn't lie. Also I don't believe he's red, maybe orange, poisoner or not. The reason why I went for Hermit again was because that time when Cres revealed her results about Farf and bel, during the farf/bel debate Hermit made a post that looked like he's jokingly inviting the assassin to kill the detective, could be nothing but I decided to check him again.

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This one I mean

@assassin-chan, hi, are you not going to use your role today?

 

[GrySun]

Can everyone write down:

1. Their suspects. Ideally list 4, and if possible whether they are red or orange.
2. The people they trust. Any number. Not trust as in 100% townie but trust as in „I wouldn‘t vote them anytime soon“.
3. Any missing role info. MV or Ex. Magic, or even unclaimed role and actions.

 

[Hermit]

Ah, that assassin post was a joke Is why I also talked about cup sizes in it as well.

@Lady pompom Why didn't you use NVD on Grysun last night?

 

[Seraph]

@Demonspeed "What's your role?" Oh my God, I almost burst out laughing reading this. You were with me in 2 Dungeons, I didn't enter one on N1 and last night I gave my Vote to Hardy and so did Gry. I have no role.

@GrySun So you give us a reasoning for why you vote Hardy instead of yourself and then question me for having done the same? That's ridiculous, so counter question, why didn't YOU vote yourself? I did that 2 nights in a row and why? Because I only had untrustworthy people around me at the times, last night was different. There was Hardy. So my vote went to him.

@Evil3ye Nah,i don't really want one, I said on D1 already that I don't really wanna rely on this mechanic because I'll never get a role through a mechanic that relies on people voting for me. As one of the lower class players I'll never get that kind of faith unless there is no other choice for the town, which admittedly is due to me usually dooming myself or my team. So there you go. Besides whether I enter one or not doesn't really change anything for me, enter one and explain your self votes or why you trust player X or not enter one and explain why you didn't do so.

 

[Brandish μ]

Votekill Lady pompom.

If she has fair reasons not to use her secondary I'll be open to another vote against Gry.

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And I'm going to bed. Will get back in the morning before work.

 

[Lady pompom]

Man, I need a coffee to process the night results. Actually a substitute would be better (ugh, day5, week playtime already, how you people do that )

Heaven baited a strong Extreme Magic and said to be Necro, so pretty much obvious choice. Scary as well, pretty dangerous role so needs to go.

Not sure why they wouldn't get rid of Haya first though, but perhaps both teams think the other will kill her, so don't want to waste ammunition by doubling up. Not quite buying the Mafia Doc theory yet, but it is possible that the doesn't need to worry being killed at all, being in one team, and perhaps team orange detective checked her, and they avoid her for that reason. Thinking more the first scenario is true here.

As for the no kills and lynch candidates, here again, what a surprise our Freeman survived.
In my opinion still the right guy to lynch today. Either him or Brandish.

Suspicious is as well that neither of the Sickly guys did their job at all. Demon promised to prove himself and I discussed with Pompom yesterday, how she needs to do it in order to not be suspected, however she completely ignored that.

If we were to assume each team has only one goi I would say Demon could very well be the orange goi. His vote change from Gry to Shobu last day didn't matter at all, having had Hardy, Jinx (and someone else?) vote before him making Shobu clearly come out on top. I would say Him or Seraph (who was the other vote against Shobu lynch, albeit very early vote).

im concerned with pompom since she obviously used her ability those 2 last nights. would she really afford not using sickly at a crucial stage of the game when every single vote matters ?

I am Townie Goi. I need to charge my EM today and it'll trigger next phase.

Brandish and Pom are easily lynches for today. I don't know what kind of excuse Pom could find to explain her not contaminating someone.

Shobu was orange ayy...

Well that's a good start...

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Thought pompom was gonna sickly Gry for the rest of the game?

You are missing a Mafia Poisoner in red team. We confirmed orange couldn‘t kill N3 so the 2 kills we had there were both from red. That means we weren‘t missing kills much this game. N2 orange couldn‘t kill and red poisoned. Poisoner is confirmed red.

So Janitor, Poisoner, Goi +1?
Assassin, M. Detective, Goi +1?

If Hermit isn‘t lying though we may have a 2-tied Lover pair making the teams be 5-5, not nice.

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Regarding Pom, maybe she forgot to PM or her main role was needed more(if it is Escort). But I doubt she‘d openly say to sickly me every night if she had such a crucial primary role she has to use instead of sickly.

I said I’d target Gry every night just from a mental breakdown, it just makes me annoyed how you all are ignoring that if he was a freeman he should be dead today morning. I just gave up on using my sickling role, 13 pp or so still around, I talked to you all I suspect Shobu. Wit those numbers, of we believe it is a 4-4 mafia, reds and oranges should be each having 2, but regardless if I sickly Gry or not, he will just rally people and kill townies anyways, he is trusted and he did a good job getting town to believe him, even after he hesitated from Farfy lynch, he went for Shobu, which makes me think his role is more important, who knows even tye escort blocking Cres from coincidentally getting results on who? Me. Exactly, just look at what he is doing, pretending to be freeman that does not get outed during nightnphase and trying to frame sickly to being poisoner even though that is impossible for me to have 2 night actions.

I swear I‘ll put on ignore list anyone who uses the nonsensical „he still alive!“ argument, this is just ridiculous and hardly in the spirit of the game.

Yes, play this mindgame, say you’ll be ignoring the people who sniff how wrong it is for a freeman to be alive after claiming in daylight. If I was really mafia and you have some sense in believing I used another action, what makes you think you’d be alive, specially after so viciously going after me spitting your lies to town to make me look like a mafia? You really thinkIwould give you a pass?I’d have bloodied my hands with you already.So, give up on this nonsensical theory already.

communicating thoughts and opinions on players as this is a game about an uninformed majority vs an informed minority.... being helpful by



Pom and got nonresult



as hermit stated, could be unbalanced teams too something like the smaller group having a traitor

I will repeat myself, but you will not get a result unless we kill the blocker, they will be onto you until mafia kills you finally, Cres. be careful.

Not sure why they are leaving Haya alone but they may not want to hit the other 3 (Pom, Bran, Evil) for fear of hitting the rival antagonists.

I was blocked again. Hopefully it’s just normal blocked and not something shady.

Why they are leaving Haya? gry was top priority with his freeman, this is what we should be wondering.

huh i bossted Crescent and she was still blocked ? I hesitated as i suspected boosting might not work on Cresc especially if Mafia has Magi they dont even need to kill her just to block her... And no sickly vote today ... so Pompom used her role, instead ( could she be escort)
A doc claim being alive till day 5 wow....

@Demonspeed werent you supposed to use your sickly MV ?


they knew for sure Marm role, but mafia det is not told sanity, the role is already too op.

Noone got MV seemingly.

I didn’t use any role, I am passive, which action do I have to use if not sickly? Even when I have a passive role, rng spmehow gets me a secondary that is active… why does this happen…?

I am Townie Goi. I need to charge my EM today and it'll trigger next phase.

Brandish and Pom are easily lynches for today. I don't know what kind of excuse Pom could find to explain her not contaminating someone.

Just... I dislike being sickly and I won’t contaminate ppl unless we clear Gry’s identity and affiliation. I am very sure he is orange and his teammates are either you or Hermit. Same as I thought with Shobu.

So Freeman Gry lives once more what a surprise...

Demon hasn't activated his vessel, Pom didn't sickly Gry despite saying so...one of these 3 seems pretty likely for a lynch.

I visited a dungeon last night, alongside Gry and Hardy. Since I distrust Gry but trust Hardy I voted him to get the Vessel.

yes, I was sincerely extra angry with Gry on how he has been playing and trying to frame me at all cost, and how you all just agree and let him play you like fiddles.

According to who went on dungeons on D2, Poisoner cannot be: Demon, Seraph, Evil3ye, Brandish, Bel.

So unless it‘s simply Pompom, Poisoner is between me, Hermit and shinobi. Very interesting.

@Hermit did you poison Hardy last night?

I couldn’t be posioner, I used my sickly N1 and N2. So it’s really between you three, you know?

Look at this, he wants me so badly to be this poisoner that he is suddenly considering I might have 2 night actions… Is that one of your magi boosts, @GrySun ? To give another action to someone else, is that why you think I could be poisoner?Because if it’s not, better drop the theory.

Can everyone write down:

1. Their suspects. Ideally list 4, and if possible whether they are red or orange.
2. The people they trust. Any number. Not trust as in 100% townie but trust as in „I wouldn‘t vote them anytime soon“.
3. Any missing role info. MV or Ex. Magic, or even unclaimed role and actions.

Ah, that assassin post was a joke Is why I also talked about cup sizes in it as well.

@Lady pompom Why didn't you use NVD on Grysun last night?

Because I was angry and I refuse to use my active role when it won’t make a difference. you know, sickly is supposed to help town lynch mafias by handicapping one of the mafias, in other words, preventing 1 mafia to vote, but what is the point of preventing Gry from voting, even if he is mafia if in the end of the day, he will get everyone to lynch me while he laughs with his orange mafia friends in the pads…

Really, even if you think I am mafia, just consider Gry is scum from the other party, he goes after me like every day and I suspected him from the 1 st day, then he comes out as freeman, doesn’t die And wants to convince ppl I am this poisoner that had 2 actions N2

 

[Erinyes]

I didn’t use any role, I am passive,

Ok claim please now, theres no risk for you to be killed with a passive role if you re townies, mafia has plenty greater options that they even let freeman living, so no need to hide.

 

[Lady pompom]

Can everyone write down:

1. Their suspects. Ideally list 4, and if possible whether they are red or orange.
2. The people they trust. Any number. Not trust as in 100% townie but trust as in „I wouldn‘t vote them anytime soon“.
3. Any missing role info. MV or Ex. Magic, or even unclaimed role and actions.

My suspects are you, Hermit and perharps, Demon or Brandish. Mostly you.
I trust Crescent, shinobi, evil and no one else.
I had no action last nights from my own volitio or disregard towards my sickly secondary role, and my role is passive, I am bulletproof. I was supposed to tank mafia kills while sickling I guess.

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If Cres succeeded in her investigations… Welp, until the blocker is out, she will have problems.

 

[Erinyes]

just gave up on using my sickling role, 13 pp or so still around,

seriously at this stage of the game, not using sickly ?

I am bulletproof.

BP and you kept that role hidden 5 days ? what were you afraid of to not claim it earlier ?

 

[Lady pompom]

Ps.: I quoted so many posts, sorry if I didn’t answer to some.
and @Evil3ye I am sorry, it was not my intention ignoring you, I di read last 2 pages or so of the phase last day and only checked the thread more today, but I feel less angry now.

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seriously at this stage of the game, not using sickly ?


BP and you kept that role hidden 5 days ? what were you afraid of to not claim it earlier ?

I wanted to try tanking mafia kills, figure if I don’t say much mafia will target me at some point, plus with my strange behavior they could think I am mafia, no point really, which is why from my first hinting I said I think it’s a relatively hard role to play.

 

[Hardy]

No votes on Brand yet? Fr?

Dunno if it was mentioned but got the vessel.

Also @Hardy theory of no duplicates doesn‘t hold anymore. Shobu was Mafia Det, DD had Mafia Det as his Ex. Magic. Though admittedly it is different here as Avenger is the primary role of Hardy‘s MV and not an Ex. Magic.

Yeah but I mentioned something of the like before. At least Demon's shitty sickly is his EX too, not his vessel.

 

[Lady pompom]

Never had it, and sincerely have no idea how to best play it even now, maybe next time I will claim freeman and have mafia waste a night on me just be lynched by town next morning for lying…