Hangout Mokushiroku no Yonkishi Hangout Thread

[MrSchmitty7]

shouldn't Tristan has the same kind of power as Arthur and be a being close to Choas with his Darkness and Light?
Since the Real Excalibur is made of both D&L shouldn't he be able to create one too?

Also Nakaba will have to explain what happened to the Sins and why they aren't taking actions against Arthur if he's truly evil, cuz even now they should be at the peak of power in Britania with maybe Arthur being stronger than them individually

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I think the fact that the Sins aren't taking actions against him means that the "Arthur has become an Evil King" is probably false

Logically it does make sense, but at the same time I don’t think chaos is just a concept that can be obtained by mixing darkness and light. Chaos is a sentient being that happens to be darkness and light. I don’t think someone can just make another chaos by combining the two, otherwise I’m sure Merlin would’ve just made her own by now but instead she spent 3000 years trying to resurrect a single being known as chaos.

I think so far people tend to look at chaos like the rinnegan, where if you just combine two things you’ll get it. Personally I think chaos is its own unique sentient being and not just a tool.

Then again it’s just a theory on my part so I could be wrong, but in the end I’m more on the “chaos isn’t something that can be created via experimentation/biology” train

 

[SkyJockey]

We don’t know exactly how Chaos was created though. It could be more complicated than just slapping light and darkness together.

Also while I do agree that the Sins would likely try to stop an Arthur turned evil, it was shown during the Cath fight that they didn’t really have a strategy against the reality warping of chaos. Even if they teamed up, it’s not guaranteed Arthur would lose to them.

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Logically it does make sense, but at the same time I don’t think chaos is just a concept that can be obtained by mixing darkness and light. Chaos is a sentient being that happens to be darkness and light. I don’t think someone can just make another chaos by combining the two, otherwise I’m sure Merlin would’ve just made her own by now but instead she spent 3000 years trying to resurrect a single being known as chaos.

I think so far people tend to look at chaos like the rinnegan, where if you just combine two things you’ll get it. Personally I think chaos is its own unique sentient being and not just a tool.

Then again it’s just a theory on my part so I could be wrong, but in the end I’m more on the “chaos isn’t something that can be created via experimentation/biology” train

Yeah it’s very easy to just think of “Chaos” as a power or an ability, but it’s a sentient entity with its own will.

 

[Demonspeed]

The sooner we see Tristan's Magic the better... I am already tired of these Chaos theories .

 

[MrSchmitty7]

The sooner we see Tristan's Magic the better... I am already tired of these Chaos theories .

Merlin isn’t even in this manga yet, but her actions still find ways to ruin the fun for everyone

 

[Tristan]

Chaos is an "entity", and so is Tristan. Who mentioned that Tristan is just "slapping light and darkness together"? lol. We've seen from NnT that Light & Darkness nullify each other, so the existence of an "entity" wherein those contradictory forces co-exist IS "impossibility", "contradiction", in other words: "Chaos".

 

[The Prince of Darkness]

Merlin isn’t even in this manga yet, but her actions still find ways to ruin the fun for everyone

Unless............. she said bye bye to the Gluttony's Boar and said hello to the Pinky Fox

 

[SkyJockey]

Oh speaking of Merlin! We’ve got the evil King Arthur skulking around Britannia, looking for the pure and innocent knights of the apocalypse, yet no mention of Arthur’s wicked court mage?

I smell collusion!

 

[KagamiKuroko]

 

[Tristan]

So far we know the identities of three knights: Death (Percival), War (Lancelot), & Plague (Tristan). Famine could be one of these three I think:
1- King & Diane's son
2- Zeldris & Gelda's son
3- Gawain

 

[TarXan]

Okay now I’m interested, god that panel of the 4 Knights is hype, hopefully Nakaba doesn’t completely change their designs because they look amazing

I can’t believe Arthur is the baddy, I wonder what happened to him, maybe he’s being manipulated???

 

[Demonspeed]

So far we know the identities of three knights: Death (Percival), War (Lancelot), & Plague (Tristan). Famine could be one of these three I think:
1- King & Diane's son
2- Zeldris & Gelda's son
3- Gawain

It's going to be Gawain. But Gawain could be 1 or 2. In the end it's just a name.

 

[TarXan]

How did we come to the conclusion that Tristan is Chaos because he can manipulate Darkness & Light ? By that logic Mael is chaos because he was doing the same thing when he merged with the commandments

Also why the hell is Gawain constantly being mentioned, I’m so confused, is there something I missed ?

 

[SkyJockey]

Also why the hell is Gawain constantly being mentioned, I’m so confused, is there something I missed ?

Just people being excited/interested in his character. He’s a pretty prominent character in Arthurian legend (being one of the strongest and most famous of Arthur’s knights). Plus, there’s the lore connection he may have to Sunshine.

 

[MrSchmitty7]

Chaos is an "entity", and so is Tristan. Who mentioned that Tristan is just "slapping light and darkness together"? lol. We've seen from NnT that Light & Darkness nullify each other, so the existence of an "entity" wherein those contradictory forces co-exist IS "impossibility", "contradiction", in other words: "Chaos".

No one here isn’t saying that Tristan isn’t an entity. I said chaos isn’t just a power, it’s a literal sentient being. Arthur doesn’t have a magic power called chaos, he has the literal being sealed inside of him and is using its essence to manipulate the world

There’s no such thing so far as the power of chaos because chaos isn’t just a power it’s a sentient being. In order for Tristan to have the power of chaos he’d have to be like the literal entity from what the manga has shown so far. That’s why I don’t think him being part demon part goddess is enough for him to get the power of chaos.

 

[OtakuFreak]

Chaos is probably the culmination of the five races, not just light and darkness. Like @MrSchmitty7 said, it's probably not like the rinnegan in the way it's created.

Or if it is, you'd need light, dark, nature (fairy), earth (Giants) and human magic alltogether? idk

 

[TarXan]

Just people being excited/interested in his character. He’s a pretty prominent character in Arthurian legend (being one of the strongest and most famous of Arthur’s knights). Plus, there’s the lore connection he may have to Sunshine.

You guys need to chill before you get your hopes up only to get disappointed

If anything I think one of the main characters may get the Sun Grace lol

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Chaos is probably the culmination of the five races, not just light and darkness. Like @MrSchmitty7 said, it's probably not like the rinnegan in the way it's created.

Or if it is, you'd need light, dark, nature (fairy), earth (Giants) and human magic alltogether? idk

This.

Mael had access to Darkness & Light, doesn’t make his abilities Chaos related

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Tristan’s design looks more fitting for “Death”

 

[Tristan]

No one here isn’t saying that Tristan isn’t an entity. I said chaos isn’t just a power, it’s a literal sentient being. Arthur doesn’t have a magic power called chaos, he has the literal being sealed inside of him and is using its essence to manipulate the world

There’s no such thing so far as the power of chaos because chaos isn’t just a power it’s a sentient being. In order for Tristan to have the power of chaos he’d have to be like the literal entity from what the manga has shown so far. That’s why I don’t think him being part demon part goddess is enough for him to get the power of chaos.

I didn't mention the possibility of Tristan using the power of Chaos (because that won't ever happen for plot reasons). I just highlighted the similarity between Chaos (not Arthur) & Tristan in their essence / nature. Both of them are entities made of co-existing Light & Dark properties. As simple as that!

 

[Demonspeed]

You guys need to chill before you get your hopes up only to get disappointed

If anything I think one of the main characters may get the Sun Grace lol

But Gawain is said to have powers related to the sun so yeah he fits as Famine.

 

[TarXan]

But Gawain is said to have powers related to the sun so yeah he fits as Famine.

How so ? What does famine have to do with the Sun lmao

 

[Tristan]

Chaos is probably the culmination of the five races, not just light and darkness. Like @MrSchmitty7 said, it's probably not like the rinnegan in the way it's created.

When Merlin was asked: "What is Chaos?" her answer was:

See? Light & Darkness, and anything besides those two elements is just your headcanon. Even that "Sphere" shows Chaos's dyadic essence.