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There may be more to it since Ironside finds it hard that Hope is all about transforming the feelings into strength, but for now, that is the initial mechanism of his magic.
As of now, Percy's ability is based on two grounds: one is "conceptual", the other is "physical / practical".
- The conceptual aspect of his ability is that he turns the positive feelings of those surrounding him into pure strength (it is similar in this regard to how the Sun amplifies the strength of its users during Day time).
- The physical / practical aspect of "Hope" can be seen in that green, malleable energy/matter and how it can take whatever shape Percival pictures in his mind. It is kinda similar to the "Green Lantern" in this regard:


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Tristan's first appearance in the anime:







 

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Nope that ain't Deathpierce....
It looks like aged Gilthunder to me, but we know he isn't...however, his design makes me rule Gil out of the selection of possible guest appearances...besides, Gil's blitzing with the help of his ability looks zig-zaggy, to match its theme.
Ngl Ironside looks somewhat like Hendrickson
Meh, to me he looks like middle-aged Gil...and since he's supposedly Percy's biological father( for some reason I kinda doubt it), shouldn't he also look like a younger Demon Joke?
So the mechanism of Percy's magic is to transform feelings into strength 🧐
Nakaba and Mashima went out for drinks again :heh
Percival can also coat his teammates in his magic. So while he gets boosted by their hope in him, this will also lead to them being physically protected and regenerated by his magic.

Hoping this leads to some good teamwork between Percival and the other 4KoA.
You forgot the convenient indirect Mel style ecchi style fanservice.
Would Gilthunder qualify as a youngster? He was 21 in NNT so 37 now. And it didn't look like a lightning attack to me.
As a regular human he should look just like Ironside, or at least as old as DP, since you guys can't stop thinking of him :cheez
Maybe it's Dreyfus.
Shut up, Vivian! If it was your beau, he would've played whack-a-mole with the monsters.:XD
Hey, a return of the narration. It's Gowther's time to shine.
You forced my brain to read that part in his seiyu's voice.
Gowther himself isn't young
What do you mean?! Gowther is Forever Young🎶

My money is on Tristan showing up, we can try and check if it's Ark, but it's not necessary if Tristan himself has a main ability that has already combined Ark and PoD into something else.

And I really have this itch to call Nakaba out on hist typically weird fanservice ways...really, a mini-Percy has to support Anne's crotch?!? I do remember Meliodas clinging to Elizabeth's inner thigh, but this one is new ...and ewww.
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As of now, Percy's ability is based on two grounds: one is "conceptual", the other is "physical / practical".
- The conceptual aspect of his ability is that he turns the positive feelings of those surrounding him into pure strength (it is similar in this regard to how the Sun amplifies the strength of its users during Day time).
- The physical / practical aspect of "Hope" can be seen in that green, malleable energy/matter and how it can take whatever shape Percival pictures in his mind. It is kinda similar to the "Green Lantern" in this regard:


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Tristan's first appearance in the anime:







Gotta run and watch the episode, he's too precious!!
 

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I like how his companions aren't useless but help him in an intelligent way, Anne helped him to not get tricked by his lies, Nasiens's poison helped at dulling the precision of his movement, and finally, Donny helped to lift the coffin without being noticed by Ironside and it is so believable because he is indeed a fodder to him and he was focused on Percival's elimination alone.

And finally, Percival managed to separate the CoED (and cutting his helmet) while playing like a jet, I also like that despises his power-up, he wasn't still a match for Ironside in a frontal confrontation. He just gained the ability to fly this time, that is it.

Nice team effort. Each one of them played his role nicely.
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As of now, Percy's ability is based on two grounds: one is "conceptual", the other is "physical / practical".
- The conceptual aspect of his ability is that he turns the positive feelings of those surrounding him into pure strength (it is similar in this regard to how the Sun amplifies the strength of its users during Day time).
- The physical / practical aspect of "Hope" can be seen in that green, malleable energy/matter and how it can take whatever shape Percival pictures in his mind. It is kinda similar to the "Green Lantern" in this regard:


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Tristan's first appearance in the anime:







Let's "hope" pun intended that Percival can become as OP as Green Lantern but in a reasonable way. He is similar to him now that I think about it, you are right.
 
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The prophecy might be in right..i mean..the knights born after arthur awakened as king of chaos....and percy is showing powers somewhat similar to as manifestation of stuff with his magic and another aspect being of dark and light which has resulted in Tristan ....they could be be something that is born to oppose the chaos....like the original chaos created his children who opposed him...maybe it's a unconscious thing bound to happen whenever chaos is active..
 

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I have imagined Ironside more handsome lol he looks like a tall version of Cain Barzad or a mix of young Hendrickson and Dreyfus
 

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I have imagined Ironside more handsome lol he looks like a tall version of Cain Barzad or a mix of young Hendrickson and Dreyfus
Or a young version of Varghese, they are indeed Father and Son.

His look makes sense in a way.
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If Percival was a HxH character, his nen classification will be easily specialization, he is a specialist in the HxH context.

I wonder how Tristan's magic will look like, I hope he has a Unique magic ability specific to him like Percival besides the usual light/darkness natural attribute from his parents.
 

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For Tristan I've always seen him going to be a far far upgraded Version of 4C Maelstrarossa but with complete control over his mind, body and powers @sobreno
Tristan is a being born from Darkness and Light, so it goes without saying that he will be able to use both elements. What @sobreno was wondering about is Tristan's innate magic. Personally, I think that a magic which is based on the concept of "inversion" like "The Ruler" and "Full Counter" would nicely fit his dual, paradoxical nature. You can read about it HERE: (they listed DK among its users)
 

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I'm a little late to the party, but that Q&A saying high-level ark spells can destroy souls as well as physical bodies is really interesting.

Remember how demons eating the souls of others and preventing reincarnation was seen as one of the most criminal things to do? Now the archangels and Bloody-Eli look even more evil LMFAO
 

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Tristan is a being born from Darkness and Light, so it goes without saying that he will be able to use both elements. What @sobreno was wondering about is Tristan's innate magic. Personally, I think that a magic which is based on the concept of "inversion" like "The Ruler" and "Full Counter" would nicely fit his dual, paradoxical nature. You can read about it HERE: (they listed DK among its users)
Now that you talk of it, how about him getting an similar ability to that of Daemon's(the new kid from boruto)
 

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Now that you talk of it, how about him getting an similar ability to that of Daemon's(the new kid from boruto)
That ability is too overkill to have for Tristan or any other characters of the 4 Knights.

Tho, I wonder if it is more broken than the potential of Hope.
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If it's Gilthunder then the title of the next chapter would just be referring to Percival. Rather than looking at it as a lightning attack think of it as Gil blitzing around while covered in lightning and using his physical strength to demolish the monsters. The house monster is being sliced in half by some kind of energy coming from below him, so it looks more like he was cut than hit by an ordinary projectile.

That said, I think Tristan is the more likely option. As I mentioned earlier, the mystery of the arrow still hasn't been resolved. Tristan in the Arthurian legends is known for using a bow that never misses its target, so he has always been a strong candidate for explaining the arrow. It's possible that it could have just been a gag similar to when Percival accidentally gave Donny a haircut, but I feel like that would have been addressed after the fight if there was nothing more to it.


Good catch. I have to wonder what the significance of that was. The most straightforward interpretation would be that the mysterious benefactor is somehow connected to the moon, either him powering up because of the moon kind of like a reverse Escanor or the moon itself somehow responding to the benefactor's power. If the benefactor is Tristan then it could also be vaguely hinting at the duality of his existence. Where can you find a better balance of light and dark than during a full moon at midnight? If we instead take those panels more figuratively, then they could simply be visually depicting the tides of the battle turning as the good guys gain more ground.
NNT was more focused on power level and overcoming your opponents with more raw power (aka higher PLs), that is why it was predictable and redundant, that was the age of Light and Darkness.

I expect that MNYK will take (not completely but a little bit) the Jojo or HxH approach, with enemies having more hax powers than just raw powers in the age of Chaos, who is basically a being who can control and twist reality itself.

For defeating them, we will need the right character with the right ability or strategy to take them down, which will more interesting to read.

Humans with the right broken hax ability that Nakaba can give them via Chaos shenanigan (items or bestowal abilities), in the right scenario (a well-balanced hax ability need conditions to use it otherwise it is a Deus ex machina), can defeat top tier sins like Mel, Ban, or King with their crazy raw powers compared to just Humans. And that will make more sense and bring back the tension because the fight can go anywhere than the predictable: Mel is the strongest Demon, what the heck those humans HKs hope to accomplish Nakaba?

It was already established that the Humans race, although the weakest race overall in raw magic/physical power and lifespan, is the closest to Chaos.

Jujutsu Kaisen and Chainsaw manga authors understood it. That is why their battles look more like HxH than the usual shonen battle like the Big 3 although Bleach at the last arc changed it.
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Tristan is a being born from Darkness and Light, so it goes without saying that he will be able to use both elements. What @sobreno was wondering about is Tristan's innate magic. Personally, I think that a magic which is based on the concept of "inversion" like "The Ruler" and "Full Counter" would nicely fit his dual, paradoxical nature. You can read about it HERE: (they listed DK among its users)
Now that I think about it, Percival's power is literally Varghese's belief toward his own grandson and the fact that he is his "hope".

About Tristan, Meliodas said to him that "his future is ever-expanding, like the sky".

I wonder if it will a hint to his future innate ability. :XD
 
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Now that you talk of it, how about him getting an similar ability to that of Daemon's(the new kid from boruto)
I hate it in Boruto. I hope nothing of the sort finds it’s way into this manga
 

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The chapter made a big deal out of seeing ironside's face... But it seems weird to showcase it just because he sort of looks like his parent? Am I missing something here?
 

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The chapter made a big deal out of seeing ironside's face... But it seems weird to showcase it just because he sort of looks like his parent? Am I missing something here?
Dramatic effect.

Also I guess those who thought he was Death Pierce or another NNT character realized they were wrong.
 

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Trying to figure out the abilities of the remaining three is going to be a task, mainly because thinking of the thematic opposites of the "Calamity" they represent is pretty hard.

The only one you can guess for sure is probably Lancelot, assuming he is the one who represent War going by the silhouette. Love/Peace/Harmony/Inaction would the thematic opposite of War. But there are several avenues in which that could take, a few of which having already been used in NNT. But it's going to need to be something that isn't broken immediately, can be developed, and, basically, fun to produce fights out of because they are going to be used by kids who, according to Nakaba, are going to be starting out weaker and built from the ground up.

Estarossa's Love and DK's The Ruler are not only broken but just boring in terms of choreography because their whole thing is to make something not work. And they had work arounds to not even be considered whenever they were fought.

So, basically, when it comes to theorizing, try to keep in mind it needs to be something that can be strong, yet fun and versatile for fights. Like Percy's Hope.
 

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@Tristan @sobreno yeah maybe that might be an overkill but honestly that's the best ability he can inherit for now since DK's ability is inversion and Mel's signature attack being full counter so it should be on steroids lol

Either that ability or not we need these guys to have some broken haxxes and not just some flashy big blast attacks cause the supposed opponent this time itself is a busted dude
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I hate it in Boruto. I hope nothing of the sort finds it’s way into this manga
Yoo, are you one of those toxic borito haters?
 

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Trying to figure out the abilities of the remaining three is going to be a task, mainly because thinking of the thematic opposites of the "Calamity" they represent is pretty hard.

The only one you can guess for sure is probably Lancelot, assuming he is the one who represent War going by the silhouette. Love/Peace/Harmony/Inaction would the thematic opposite of War. But there are several avenues in which that could take, a few of which having already been used in NNT. But it's going to need to be something that isn't broken immediately, can be developed, and, basically, fun to produce fights out of because they are going to be used by kids who, according to Nakaba, are going to be starting out weaker and built from the ground up.

Estarossa's Love and DK's The Ruler are not only broken but just boring in terms of choreography because their whole thing is to make something not work. And they had work arounds to not even be considered whenever they were fought.

So, basically, when it comes to theorizing, try to keep in mind it needs to be something that can be strong, yet fun and versatile for fights. Like Percy's Hope.
I doubt the other Knights are going to have abilities that are the thematic opposites of their titles. Not only would that be repetitive, but I'm not even so sure that Hope really is the opposite of Death in the first place. This scenario also doesn't really enable any tangible speculation, because nothing about the concept of Hope makes you think of energy swords or mini golems. The versatility of Hope is only loosely connected to the central idea that the magic gets its name from.

The very concept of versatility is actually a tricky one, because Nakaba is going for this approach that magic can be classified into distinct categories, with Hero type being the all in one type. I don't think the other Knights will necessarily have special Hero type magic similar to Percival, because that's a pretty good way to make the MC stand out more as the leader of the group. Percival desperately needs of some sort of an ace in the hole considering that he's a human while Tristan and Lancelot are literal demigods descended from races much stronger than humans. They should be quite a bit stronger than Percival simply due to their base stats, in addition to having clan powers that give them versatility outside of their individual magic powers. Lancelot can already read hearts and I'd assume he will eventually learn to fly and perhaps also to transform. Tristan apparently possesses both light and darkness, which (unless something has changed due to his nephilim nature) means Ark spells, Darkness spells, healing, regeneration, flight, hellfire, mind control and whatever else in addition to the eventual Sacred Treasure with its own magic. His arsenal is gigantic, so I would be very hesitant to throw in some kind of conceptual powers on top of everything else.

I think a better approach would be to try and balance out the Knights somehow. What kind of abilities should they possess in order for every member to have a distinct role, fighting style and visual presentation, while also being neither significantly above or below the others in terms of power and usefulness?
  1. Percival has his conceptual power along with all the energy manipulation stuff and he's also in possession of at least three magic items with their own minor abilities.
  2. Tristan has the best genes and huge versatility, so his personal ability should be relatively limited. Perhaps something in a similar vein to his his father's unnamed destruction magic which basically only does one thing but really well.
  3. Lancelot is more of a question mark so far, but Ban was always primarily a physical fighter with an emphasis on speed, which the addition of fairy wings would probably enhance even further. Lancelot's personality was a bit more cheeky in the one-shot, especially when dealing with the merchant, so he's probably the best candidate among the Knights to have some kind of a trickster ability similar to Ban's Snatch. He probably needs some extra power as well, which could come from him being raised by the Lady of the Lake. In the legends, the Lady of the Lake gives Lancelot a whole bunch of enchanted items(a ring, a lance, a sword, a tent and a mirror) which sound like a decent option, as long as Nakaba is careful to avoid creating too much overlap between those items and the ones Percival has. Alternatively, her role as the Priestess of Chaos coupled with Lancelot's new title of the Prince of the Lake could mean he's now closely connected to Chaos and/or the magic lake. Plenty of power to draw from in there, which he will probably need in order to be able to match Tristan's superior demigod heritage.
  4. The last Knight is still a mystery so it's not very fruitful to comment on that, but if turns out to be Gawain then things should be relatively straightforward. I just hope Nakaba has the sense to mix things up a bit if he plans to reuse the same power with another main character.
 

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Yeah I don't believe in the theme is that they are getting abilities opposite to their title. At best we can speculate about Tristan's ability to use Ark and PoD. But guessing their Magic isn't really possible.
 

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Now that I think about it, Percival's power is literally Varghese's belief toward his own grandson and the fact that he is his "hope".

About Tristan, Meliodas said to him that "his future is ever-expanding, like the sky".

I wonder if it will a hint to his future innate ability. :XD
You're right, I didn't take notice of it at first:

As you said, that quote about Tristan's future is at the core of the last chapter, since it literally was its title: "Chapte 346: Like that Sky".
I was thinking what power/ability could fit this imagery of [your future is ever-expanding (Endless 無限 in Kanji) like that Sky] and the first thing that came to my mind is Satoru Gojo's "Limitless"; an ability which allows him to manipulate space, because the kanji of "sky" can also refer to the "void" & "empty":
 
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