Chapter Mokushiroku no Yonkishi Chapter 99 Spoilers & Discussion

[Brim787]

With how volumes & week to weeks work , I think 104 (the upcoming Volume’s last chapter) oughta be the latest this Arc runs.

 

[Viaral12]

With how volumes & week to weeks work , I think 104 (the upcoming Volume’s last chapter) oughta be the latest this Arc runs.

If Nakaba can realize a group fight with demons in 5 chapters. Although the next chapter is more likely to be dedicated to the resurrection of Jade and reunite with Tristan and Io.

 

[Talenel]

Wow I thought this dude Macduff had actually blocked Isolde's attack last chapter which was wild considering she hurt Melagaland....but nope it was just the delayed affect.

I'm curious to see how Chion reacts to his buddy's death.

With how volumes & week to weeks work , I think 104 (the upcoming Volume’s last chapter) oughta be the latest this Arc runs.

The smartest way to try to calculate story turns and arc endings.

 

[Jdmp53]

The easiest to expect price is the heroes being pushed beyond their current abilities' boundaries and developing more and faster; in the previous arrangement of events, Lancelot was dealing with everything himself, and he doesn't need as much power and ability growth as his same age peers, but with this twist, Io gets to somewhat safely betray Arthur, and Nasiens and Anne get to efficiently fight Arthur's minions, gradually stepping away from being Percy's support and boosters, and much more active teammates. The rest are forced to overcome sense-dulling spells, much like when Mel, Diane and Elizabeth were faced with Ruin's hypnosis near Baste.

I am grateful that Anne was allowed to do more than flail her foil at the critters, but I'm iffy about the Jade situation...and it being automatically linked to some romance sub-plot. Chion is every new moment revealed to be a crappy friend(what with apparently turning out to be part of the source of Isolde's massive self-deprecating tendencies too, aside from mocking HKs potentially dying in an alley) if there ever was one(he seems more like a Ludo X Jelamet offspring than Gil's with Marge), so I'd hoped that Isolde and Jade would turn out to just be genuine childhood friends, with no romancey side-effects in sight. Alas, I'll have to settle with the Donny X Anne, and Anne and Nasiens' friendships, even if the latter 2 might also be relatively romantic rivals at some point...siiigh.

I want Jade to live simply to get growth for himself and because he is endearing, in spite of that one childish lie, not to be the token romance-blocker-plot device regardless if dead or alive . Too many angles, Nakaba, not enough of a clear line between any two points named for the letters of the alphabet in this entire darned story. And too many spare wheels don't aid the moving along...but oh, well.

I'm confused, is the flashback from when they were 10-ish? Everybody's size and Tristan's outfit implies that much...but the 2nd pair of feet Isolde sees when she temporarily opens her eyes look like 14+ Lance's, given that I don't think he's ever had the chance to meet Tristan and travel with him anywhere right after his change of look and before the "abduction"...or could that be Dreydrin? It's clearly not Jade, as he was standing behind and she didn't recognise the feet, thus she mistook the Tristan carrying her for Jade.

lol....rminds me that when high powered beings inhabit the hosts for too long..they leave traces behind...maybe thats why chion's like that?..early ludo self passed from margaret?

 

[Demonspeed]

Chion was a bit harsh but I don't think what he said was that bad? Just that she is a commoner so there was no way for her to marry a prince.

I don't think he was part of the kids bullying her for her height. They are childhood friends after all.

 

[Yakkun]

Chion was a bit harsh but I don't think what he said was that bad? Just that she is a commoner so there was no way for her to marry a prince.

I don't think he was part of the kids bullying her for her height. They are childhood friends after all.

Agreed. He may be super straight forward to the point of rudeness but one mustn't forget that this is just the every day reality for the vast majority of people. They are commoners. They will never have access to the elevated life or people of a higher standing. It's just... normal.

 

[Brim787]

Minority Purger Chion , kickin people’s butts out the Castle since 16 !

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Read on Twitter the next Color Spread drops the 29th , right on schedule oddly. I get he draws chapters ahead but I haven’t seen much medical progress from Nakaba.

They update on that stuff usually, right ? Would rather he not collapse from all the conundrums. Besides his 2 editors , he’s a 1 man army .

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Then again , he’s kinda got a “deadline” , since there’s events in Grudge of Edinburgh 2 I’m sure he has to show us before it drops . Like Part 1 .

 

[Demonspeed]

Minority Purger Chion , kickin people’s butts out the Castle since 16 !

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Read on Twitter the next Color Spread drops the 29th , right on schedule oddly. I get he draws chapters ahead but I haven’t seen much medical progress from Nakaba.

They update on that stuff usually, right ? Would rather he not collapse from all the conundrums. Besides his 2 editors , he’s a 1 man army .

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Then again , he’s kinda got a “deadline” , since there’s events in Grudge of Edinburgh 2 I’m sure he has to show us before it drops . Like Part 1 .

It's not like authors talk much about their health to begin with. You shouldn't expect updates. His wife is his only assistant.

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Agreed. He may be super straight forward to the point of rudeness but one mustn't forget that this is just the every day reality for the vast majority of people. They are commoners. They will never have access to the elevated life or people of a higher standing. It's just... normal.

When you think about it, even though some weren't born into royalty all the main pairings involved at least one. Ban and Diane are kings and queens now.

Lancelot, Tristan, Anne and Guinevere are nobles as well. And Percival's background is hidden for now.

 

[Brim787]

His wife is his only assistant.

I would have to disagree with that. I know it was said in 2016 , but that’s about the closest | logical label you can give her for helping | supporting the series. (Besides Queen Suzuki of course )

I also recently came across the Interview he did in December that says it in a sense. Though I would definitely adore to be wrong about that . Would love my wife helping with my manga

Is it difficult for you to organize yourself to get to deliveries? He says that above all he is pressured by his two editors, both present at the meeting.

Suzuki confesses to us that it is easy to kill his characters. He said it with a smile. But he says it's up to his editors.

so Jade’s life is in the editor’s hands now!!!

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Will link to the Interview in another thread though . Either Hangout or the Official Stuff. & before I forget , Thanks for the elaboration on the medical topic !

 

[Rikudou King]

With Percy on the scene, I would expect Jade to be saved, though we haven't really seen Percy heal serious wounds on another person before, so perhaps Jade will be taken out of things for a while. Glad Anne got a power-up, though wish she had gotten to do something more doing all the fighting.

 

[FKS]

I decided to check the problematic Q/A from chapter 80.
Actually, the more exact wording was "When did Tristan and Isolde get to know each other?"
Tristan wasn't exactly acquainted with the trio back then.
EDIT: Checked my TL for it in the other thread, and it was what I went with.

 

[OtakuFreak]

So Anne's power has evolved to where she can paralyse people if they lie to her? So a budget truth commandment then? Kinda based.

Considering Guinevere's warning, Arthur should pay the price for his actions in this arc. It's not over yet so there is still time.

I think Percival will save Jade next chapter.

The consequence may be Liones getting a POW again if they capture Macduff now that he's paralysed. That could easily lead into an invasion arc, etc.

 

[Brim787]

Eh I doubt they need MacDuff . He’s probably almost dead & I don’t see anyone helping him. Teanie though ? She oughta be the new POW.

 

[Demonspeed]

I decided to check the problematic Q/A from chapter 80.
Actually, the more exact wording was "When did Tristan and Isolde get to know each other?"
Tristan wasn't exactly acquainted with the trio back then.
EDIT: Checked my TL for it in the other thread, and it was what I went with.

Figured it was the case. Tristan is the prince after all so they had to know his face. The only weird case is Chion since he is Margaret's son.

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So Anne's power has evolved to where she can paralyse people if they lie to her? So a budget truth commandment then? Kinda based.



The consequence may be Liones getting a POW again if they capture Macduff now that he's paralysed. That could easily lead into an invasion arc, etc.

I think Percivall will save Jade but after what happened I wonder if Isolde and Chion won't try to kill Macduff on the spot.

 

[Viaral12]

Eh I doubt they need MacDuff . He’s probably almost dead & I don’t see anyone helping him. Teanie though ? She oughta be the new POW.

Macduff would most likely be killed to keep Jade alive, as it would be too convenient for Percival to bring him back to life without any problems. As for Teninnich, it is not yet certain that she will become the new prisoner, when the group is completely engaged in demons, she can quietly escape. Although Percival and Ann have become stronger, this is still not enough for the invasion of Camelot.

Although I've always wondered why the teleport tattoo that Arthur gives out can't also self-destruct the holy knight when he is captured? Although he did not take his enemies seriously at all.

Figured it was the case. Tristan is the prince after all so they had to know his face. The only weird case is Chion since he is Margaret's son.

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It will be funny if Tristan at the moment can not even know about the existence of his sister / brother from the underworld.

 

[Undina]

lol....rminds me that when high powered beings inhabit the hosts for too long..they leave traces behind...maybe thats why chion's like that?..early ludo self passed from margaret?

Yeah, on this I think we've been on the same page for a long while

Chion was a bit harsh but I don't think what he said was that bad? Just that she is a commoner so there was no way for her to marry a prince.

It was bad, since it's a crass lie , the aunt who inherited the thron, instead of Chion's mother, was a rando Danafor survivor(by human standards) adopted into the royal family. And the youngest. If you want to be nitpicky and say that it was Mel who was granted the crown, this guy who married into the kingship was a frenemy of the world they live in for quite a while, he "earned" his title via what counts to them as meritocracy. Same with most of the Sins earning their rulerships and high HK titles. Mel was the DC's technical king, till he passed the role to Zel, but, again, by human standards, he was merely a wandering nobody OP demon who worked his way up through Lioness knightdom.

When you think about it, even though some weren't born into royalty all the main pairings involved at least one. Ban and Diane are kings and queens now.

Lancelot, Tristan, Anne and Guinevere are nobles as well. And Percival's background is hidden for now.

Yes, and Diane and Ban got there via meritocracy, they built/earned their roles. Do these people never tell their kids about their life experience? At least the work that got them in the good places they wanted to be?! Also, Tristan's a prince on 2-3 sides, already, he doesn't even want the throne...I think.

Figured it was the case. Tristan is the prince after all so they had to know his face. The only weird case is Chion since he is Margaret's son.

Marge and Gil might've visited with Veronica and Griamore more often than Melizabeth, or maybe they even lived in that same village/town for a while. The kids also personally know Dreydrin, right?

 

[Demonspeed]

Yeah, on this I think we've been on the same page for a long while

It was bad, since it's a crass lie , the aunt who inherited the thron, instead of Chion's mother, was a rando Danafor survivor(by human standards) adopted into the royal family. And the youngest. If you want to be nitpicky and say that it was Mel who was granted the crown, this guy who married into the kingship was a frenemy of the world they live in for quite a while, he "earned" his title via what counts to them as meritocracy. Same with most of the Sins earning their rulerships and high HK titles. Mel was the DC's technical king, till he passed the role to Zel, but, again, by human standards, he was merely a wandering nobody OP demon who worked his way up through Lioness knightdom.

Yes, and Diane and Ban got there via meritocracy, they built/earned their roles. Do these people never tell their kids about their life experience? At least the work that got them in the good places they wanted to be?! Also, Tristan's a prince on 2-3 sides, already, he doesn't even want the throne...I think.


Marge and Gil might've visited with Veronica and Griamore more often than Melizabeth, or maybe they even lived in that same village/town for a while. The kids also personally know Dreydrin, right?

In the end, it's just chitchat between kids. Nothing really serious. Plus what Bartra did is very abnormal to begin with.

In general, these kind of unions happen between nobles so Chion isn't really wrong. Isolde was simply dreaming of a prince charming after reading a story book. It just so happens that this prince charming actually exists.

 

[Undina]

It just so happens that this prince charming actually exists.

It just so happens that this sort of prince is actually his cousin, there are cases of unusual unions in Chion's own family, and the only thing remotely noble about Gil is that his father/Zaratras was originally a druid who later also worked his way through the Liones knighthood up to GHK. His own best friend(one of them) is the son of a blacksmith, again, who worked his way up the rankings. Chion's whole environment is made up of people who had to earn what they got.
What I'm trying to say is that, while Chion might not have cared to support Isolde's daydreaming, cause at that age some boys easily pick fights with girls, he should've known better than to speak against it either. It's odd that, even as a kid, he'd be so opinionated against what goes in his own close family tree. I really want to learn how on earth did he have a rough time, back then.

 

[Demonspeed]

It just so happens that this sort of prince is actually his cousin, there are cases of unusual unions in Chion's own family, and the only thing remotely noble about Gil is that his father/Zaratras was originally a druid who later also worked his way through the Liones knighthood up to GHK. His own best friend(one of them) is the son of a blacksmith, again, who worked his way up the rankings. Chion's whole environment is made up of people who had to earn what they got.
What I'm trying to say is that, while Chion might not have cared to support Isolde's daydreaming, cause at that age some boys easily pick fights with girls, he should've known better than to speak against it either. It's odd that, even as a kid, he'd be so opinionated against what goes in his own close family tree. I really want to learn how on earth did he have a rough time, back then.

But we all know he is rude. All I was saying was that it was nothing serious. Just two kids chatting.

He didn't even really know Tristan back then, there is no reason to believe he lied or knows much about the intricacies of marriage with nobles.

 

[Undina]

He didn't even really know Tristan back then, there is no reason to believe he lied or knows much about the intricacies of marriage with nobles.

Children mostly speak about social norms as they learn or see them in their own families/homes at first. If it's not that, they speak of them as they see them portrayed in stories aimed at them, like the fairytales Isolde loves. The way Chion speaks he sounds like he was raised by someone else rather than Gil and Margaret, or around Veronica and Griamore, who would be talking at least once or twice about their extended family when Chion is around, who might even spin their own old adventures into fairytales to tell Chion before bed or whenever, and if Gil's family lived away from Liones for the first big part of Chion's known life, that makes him a "country bumpkin" too, yet he adamantly speaks, before and now, against classes mixing up, against people from outside Liones, against people's power...levels...or quality. I get that for whatever reason he might even have an inferiority complex too(the whole platoon, Tristan included, feels rife with it), but Idk, it feels like, according to Nakaba, these kids(the royal Liones family kids, in particular) were born and raised in lab tanks up to the age of 10, not in living, breathing, moving, speaking, changing communities, not to mention their own families.

To get back to my first statement about what children talk about...if Chion doesn't pull his claims on marriages with nobles from his family's experience, or fairy tales, I'm assuming that he'd be speaking from lessons on history and politics, yet those too should make him ask his parents if that's the normal way, before running to lord it over his "friends", considering that his own family is built differently. And just because some kids put up with him and his a-holish ways doesn't mean he is a friend, even less a good one.


Now, @ everyone here, did anyone already note how Jade's Light and Darkness based skills displayed so far emulate Tristan's Ark/PoD dichotomy? I'm not sure if I've seen anyone here speak about it,
Yikes, his envy of Tristan made him awaken his power...