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Chapter Nanatsu no Taizai Chapter 207 Discussion / 208 Predictions

Discussion in 'Capital of the Dead' started by FKS, Feb 12, 2017.

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How will Elizabeth try to deal with Indura?

  1. She will fight against Monspiet and Derrierie

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  2. She will try to talk them out of their current state

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  3. She possesses magic which specifically counters enemies in situations like these

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  4. She will be unable to stop them but won't suffer any injuries

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  5. She will end up getting injured and/or die

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  6. Other

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  1. Demonspeed

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    Their PLs are high enough but they are not Demons. They said it themselves.
     
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    Karmadios at one point frightened both Gloxinia and Dolor with Evil Breathe. Meliodas intervened and BFRed Karmadios with that evil breath with more than double its power. For an 2 individuals with around 50k PL to be frightened of one kinda implies that Karmadios was formidable.

    More than anything though, I'm wondering the kinds of power Gowther must have as a commandment (about 60k base perhaps?)
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    Haven't they eaten souls? They've ultlised Demonic transformations (wings and such things), no? They have Demon powers.
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    I know, I have my doubts as well about this; however, they've ultlised Demonic forms and their power lvl is high enough. This is why I wonder if it's possible.
     
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    My guess is that defection doesn't come with 6 more hearts.
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    I highly doubt Gowther had a Power Level at base on par with the current Meliodas and Estarossa with his mark.
     
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    That's just King & Diane's normal reaction given that they always shocked every time they meet someone strong.. :)

    I think it would be a different story for real Gloxinia & Dolor (their reaction) because they used to fight strong opponents in that war :fan
     
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    Dolor flew like that but that's all. They have never eaten souls and were able to use their full power like that. They say they are not Demons here:

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    He sure was, but like Sin of Pride noted, it's no surprise that King and Diane, who were relatively scared of multiple red and gray demons, would be afraid of Commandment-level magic.
    We know that Karmadios' attack didn't even scratch Dolor's body, and Harlequin in Gloxinia's body was able to easily dodge a few attacks.
     
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    Gowther seems to be Meliodas' right hand. I won't be surprised if his PL is around 60k base -- by base, I mean like this
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    True. Though I think they were freaked out by the sheer amount of Demons (Red, Grey and Golems) then. I think it's possible that they were actually terrified of what Evil Breath would do to them.
     
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    I swear if Meliodas is the reason the demons lose I'm done. Also the Goddesses being the villains for the next arc bullshit. They are weaker than demons and so far Nakaba hasn't done a single interesting thing with them. In fact Indura is the most interesting thing left. Also yes we Elizabeth has a garbage ability that will save the day or Meliodas/Gloxinia and Dolor(King and Diane) will interfere.
     
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    Wait a sec....

    You call BS what is yet to be explored, you're unhappy with Meliodas (Demon) being the the reason for Indura's lose, and also vehemently against Elizabeth (Goddess) being the reason for victory?:XD

    Why do you torture yourself so?:oh
    Quit while you're ahead!
     
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    Indura was just just introduced what make you think the Goddess don't have something similar.
     
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    I think Elizabert is some kind of more ranked than the Archangels ( not nescessary more powerful but still has some special powerful ability) , based on the way she talks to Ludociel just like she order him to stay behind... and the way other Archangels called her.
     
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    We have no proof anywhere(so far) of any such figure.
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    I'm against Mel but never said I was against the Elizabeth situation I just called it bullshit since it's be her pulling a power out of her ass(no indication of it) in order to best demons who knocked her out with one punch.
     
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    Unless you believe Elizabeth talk no jutsu Prime Meliodas. The fact that she stop Prime Meliodas means she must be very powerful magic wise. Derrière knocking Elizabeth out in one punch don't really say Elizabeth is overall weak. Ban killed Merascyla because he was physically stronger then her but we all know he is overall weaker than her. All we know now is Derrière is physically stronger than Elizabeth but Elizabeth could have some crazy magic stat.

    Ban strength is at 930 & Merascyla is at 500
     
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    Jeez it's like you skim through the manga LOL

    King was arguably the strongest sin in the first arc and he was physically useless lmao

    Same could apply to Elizabeth, her current incarnation has a magic power exceeding 1k, she's prob magic based and has an OP signature

    But I agree, her getting knocked out makes me skeptical as well
     
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    The Archangels was toying with the Commandments until Derrière & Monspeet did this forbidden technique & since you have 2 sacrifice 6 of your hearts & there is no proof you could regenerate hearts. It will be in Ten Commandments favor 2 not go near them. Less also not forget what Monspeet said about an Archangel ark 2 Derrière.
     
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    Well, the 10 commandments advantage over the goddesses is very situational. Derieri and moonspiet seem to be a match for the 4 archangels right now but you have to take in consideration how much it costs them. Right now dirieri and moonspiet are incredibly powerful but also very vulnerable considering they only have one heart left each. Even if they can use indura again, it will likely be a while from now. Perhaps more importantly, it looks like derieri and moonspiet really did loose most of their reasoning capacity considering what we are seeing and that the other commandments actually fled. I don't think even now their victory against the 4 archangels is guaranteed. And the blow to the demon realm here could be insane considering that supposedly only a few demons can use indura at all.
     
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    Derrierie's state is debatable but Monspiet appears to be perfectly fine. I don't really think having one heart is a weakness considering that it should be the norm for most races. And with that transformation she took one of Ludociel's attack without a scratch.
     
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    I think it is relevant in this specific case rather than in general. The goddess clan has shown incredible regenerative capacity over the course of this fight afer all. As far as we know, the goddesses can continue to regenerate as we have seen however the demons won't have that advantage simply because if their last remaining heart is destroyed they die. Against other races this would indeed more or less even the odds (except for the brutal increase in power).

    In any case, since we know about there being a minimum power level for indura being plausible we should be able to tell which demons can conceivably transform. Though it is not much of a surprise. Since it is people with more than 50 k then the only possibilities left would be zeldris and estarosa. It would be interesting to see if dolor and gloxinia can transform. I guess we have to wait to know whether the past commandments could transform. I wonder how gowther would handle indura.... I was of the idea that gowther probably had power below the 50k range because his abilities don't need insane high power to back them up however it would be interesting to see him using indura... The idea is kinda odd though considering the selflessness would reveal his true self...
     
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    It's pretty obvious she talk no justu him since she could do it to other demons and probably would've done it to the Commandments if not for Ludociel. Also yes she might be weaker in physical strength than magic, but if she is that strong then why did Ludociel look down on her as if she is weaker than him. It's pretty obvious that if she was that strong besides her talk no justu then Ludociel would've at least told someone to keep a eye on her, but he sees her as a non-threat so it's obvious she isn't that strong.
     
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