Discussion Natsu(END) Dragneel and(vs) Zeref Dragneel vs Acnologia

[dark123]

Here we can discuss future interactions between brothers and Acnologia and also how fight between them will look like.

 

[Mohsen]

I assume Acnologia is the god of life and death. We know for a fact that Acnologia somehow absorbed the lives of all Dragons. Who else besides the god of life and death could be able to do this? Acnologia didn't fight Igneel 400 years ago and neither did he fight Grandine,Metallicana and so on but all of them died because of him. Or Acnologia could be the son of that god who is rebelling.

Now this would mean that it was Acnologia who gave Zeref the curse. I doubt that it even a curse but the power Zeref was birn with that he can't control I wouldn't even be suprised if Acnologia is the father of Natsu and Zeref. Why else would Acnologia who doesn't talk to humans and even looks down on Dragon allow Zeref to come near him and even show him his human form. At least this would explain the talent of Natsu and Zeref and there talent with magic. Natsu as a kid created curses and Zeref invented the special techniques of Fairy Tail and other nasty stuff.

 

[SirSamuel016]

I assume Acnologia is the god of life and death. We know for a fact that Acnologia somehow absorbed the lives of all Dragons. Who else besides the god of life and death could be able to do this? Acnologia didn't fight Igneel 400 years ago and neither did he fight Grandine,Metallicana and so on but all of them died because of him. Or Acnologia could be the son of that god who is rebelling.

Now this would mean that it was Acnologia who gave Zeref the curse. I doubt that it even a curse but the power Zeref was birn with that he can't control I wouldn't even be suprised if Acnologia is the father of Natsu and Zeref. Why else would Acnologia who doesn't talk to humans and even looks down on Dragon allow Zeref to come near him and even show him his human form. At least this would explain the talent of Natsu and Zeref and there talent with magic. Natsu as a kid created curses and Zeref invented the special techniques of Fairy Tail and other nasty stuff.

Grandeeney stated in Chapter 415 that the dragons had their souls absorbed by Acnologia's Dragon Slaying Magic, no other powers mentioned whatsoever. Its well known that the Dragon Slayers were given too much power, and Acnologia was one of those back when the Dragons were choosing whether to live with humanity or fight them, which would explain why Zeref in Chapter 436 believes Acnologia to be able to rule the world. As for who else could do this, only what taught Acnologia that type of Dragon Slaying Magic could be able to do it, a Dragon. Acnologia is not much older than Zeref from what we know, and if he was the father of Zeref and Natsu, wouldn't Zeref of called him father? And to add to that, Zeref didn't know what Acnologia looked like as a human before seeing Acnologia then, as he stated with "So thats how you normally look...". I'd say its highly unlikely Acnologia and the Dragneel brothers are related, or that Acnologia is some sentient being.

 

[Mohsen]

Grandeeney stated in Chapter 415 that the dragons had their souls absorbed by Acnologia's Dragon Slaying Magic, no other powers mentioned whatsoever. Its well known that the Dragon Slayers were given too much power, and Acnologia was one of those back when the Dragons were choosing whether to live with humanity or fight them, which would explain why Zeref in Chapter 436 believes Acnologia to be able to rule the world. As for who else could do this, only what taught Acnologia that type of Dragon Slaying Magic could be able to do it, a Dragon. Acnologia is not much older than Zeref from what we know, and if he was the father of Zeref and Natsu, wouldn't Zeref of called him father? And to add to that, Zeref didn't know what Acnologia looked like as a human before seeing Acnologia then, as he stated with "So thats how you normally look...". I'd say its highly unlikely Acnologia and the Dragneel brothers are related, or that Acnologia is some sentient being.

DS magic doesn't give one the ability to aborb the life of others. If yes then why are Natsu,Wendy and the others not able to do it. Acnologia doesn't seem not to only have illed all the dragons but all the DS's of his generation too.
Another point is that Igneel and co miscalculated something. They though that they the dragon parents had to stop Natsu and co from becoming a Dragon cause then the wouldn't be able to return being a human but Acnologia seems to be doing fine. So why stop Natsu and co from becoming a dragon if Natsu could change back into a human if he wished to?

Zeref seemed like he was an orphan back then cause his parents didn't seem to be around when he was at the academy and he was there day and night. If his parents would have been around then they surely wouldn't have gave him the corpse of his brother.

DS magic gives you the institution of a Dragon not the ability to abosorb the life-force of dragons.

 

[SirSamuel016]

DS magic doesn't give one the ability to aborb the life of others. If yes then why are Natsu,Wendy and the others not able to do it. Acnologia doesn't seem not to only have illed all the dragons but all the DS's of his generation too.
Another point is that Igneel and co miscalculated something. They though that they the dragon parents had to stop Natsu and co from becoming a Dragon cause then the wouldn't be able to return being a human but Acnologia seems to be doing fine. So why stop Natsu and co from becoming a dragon if Natsu could change back into a human if he wished to?

Zeref seemed like he was an orphan back then cause his parents didn't seem to be around when he was at the academy and he was there day and night. If his parents would have been around then they surely wouldn't have gave him the corpse of his brother.

DS magic gives you the institution of a Dragon not the ability to abosorb the life-force of dragons.

Are you considering that Acnologia's attrubute of DS magic is something to do with souls? Its not impossible, there could be numerous more types of DS magic out there, so there could be one that allows souls to be absorbed. What further supports this is what Grandeeney says here: http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/415/8

 

[Mohsen]

Are you considering that Acnologia's attrubute of DS magic is something to do with souls? Its not impossible, there could be numerous more types of DS magic out there, so there could be one that allows souls to be absorbed. What further supports this is what Grandeeney says here: http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/415/8

Acnologia with all his tatoos looks like someone who comes from some ancient tribe. And til now the dragons had some kind of element and not some ubber means such as souls or life. When Acnologia used his dragn roar for the first time in the series the council men said that it made of pure etherios so he either has all elements or no element at all cause etherios is made out of all elements.

He also abosorbed the life force of Igneel even though he wasn't even near him and this gets confirmed by Igneel and Acnologia not knowing about each others strength. If there really exited a dragon that like the god of life and death can absorb souls then why didn't that dragon end the war of the dragons by absorbing the life force of all the dragons that stood on the other site of his party?

Grandine and co lied to Natsu and co and most likely didn't want to burden their children with the whole truth. Cause they said dragonifictaion is dangerous cause they can't go back and this already is confirmed to be a lie cause Acnologia can change between human and dragon appearance. And in the end natsu will also change into a dragon if he Acnologia faces off against him in his dragon form cause can you imagine someone an ant (Natsu's side compared to Acnologia dragon) fighting a giant?

There are a lot of false infos in the history of what happened 400 years ago. END is not evil cause he was a littel child 400 years ago and that is also the time when he and Igneel met. Then we have Marde Geer saying END made him King of Hades and his proxy even though END was the last demon Zeref awakened and I doubt a child can be a guild leader.

 

[Drylick]

I assume Acnologia is the god of life and death.

What? If Acnologia is the god of life and death, which definitely is stronger than him, then Zeref would have battled him a long time ago. Zeref would be dead by now and there's no need to create E.N.D.

It was also implied that Acnologia was a human, which Zeref helped to become a dragon.

 

[Mohsen]

What? If Acnologia is the god of life and death, which definitely is stronger than him, then Zeref would have battled him a long time ago. Zeref would be dead by now and there's no need to create E.N.D.

It was also implied that Acnologia was a human, which Zeref helped to become a dragon.

This information is wrong. If Zeref helped Acnologia to become a dragon than it is strange that he doesn't know how Acnologia's human form looks like. We saw Natsu killing the god of war pretty easily. So why do you think the god of life and death is way stronger than the god of war. Does Zeref know who the god of life and death is? Natsu also doesn't know that Zeref is his brother and as long as Zeref doesn't tell him Natsu might never realize it. So if Zeref never met the god of life and death then he also wouldn't know who he is even if he meets him besides the god of life and death says yo I'm the god of life and death.

The are many misinformation in this manga which are:
-Zeref being sealed, Zeref being taught by demons, zeref being a demon and so on.
-END being the vilest demon of all
-Dragonification is something that can't be undone
-Mavis created the three FT spells which in reality Zeref created and taught her
-and a few other things that I can't remember.

In the end the gods were defeated by the dragons cause the dragons ruled the world 400 years ago and not the gods. So in a sense the dragons are above the gods cause if not then why did the dragons rule til the started fighting each other? Acnologia not only hates dragons but humans too so if he is a human why is he also trying to kill the humans? What did the humans do to him?

 

[SirSamuel016]

Acnologia with all his tatoos looks like someone who comes from some ancient tribe. And til now the dragons had some kind of element and not some ubber means such as souls or life. When Acnologia used his dragn roar for the first time in the series the council men said that it made of pure etherios so he either has all elements or no element at all cause etherios is made out of all elements.

He also abosorbed the life force of Igneel even though he wasn't even near him and this gets confirmed by Igneel and Acnologia not knowing about each others strength. If there really exited a dragon that like the god of life and death can absorb souls then why didn't that dragon end the war of the dragons by absorbing the life force of all the dragons that stood on the other site of his party?

Grandine and co lied to Natsu and co and most likely didn't want to burden their children with the whole truth. Cause they said dragonifictaion is dangerous cause they can't go back and this already is confirmed to be a lie cause Acnologia can change between human and dragon appearance. And in the end natsu will also change into a dragon if he Acnologia faces off against him in his dragon form cause can you imagine someone an ant (Natsu's side compared to Acnologia dragon) fighting a giant?

There are a lot of false infos in the history of what happened 400 years ago. END is not evil cause he was a littel child 400 years ago and that is also the time when he and Igneel met. Then we have Marde Geer saying END made him King of Hades and his proxy even though END was the last demon Zeref awakened and I doubt a child can be a guild leader.

Acnologia's markings on his body are likely from his Dragon Slayer magic, and not tattoos, as their design also appear on his Dragon form.

There was nothing to say that Acnologia didn't fight them and absorb their souls in the manga, nor was there anything saying he was away from them when he absorbed their souls with his Dragon Slayer magic. Its just an assumption that he was well away from them to absorb their souls. Magic has a limited range, so to do something with his magic, he'd need to be close to the dragons, i.e fighting them. As for the Dragon, what makes you think Acnologia wouldn't of killed that Dragon after he learnt the magic? We know he and the other Dragon Slayers in that time betrayed the Dragons by killing them once they gained their power, so whats to say Acnologia wouldn't of killed that Dragon when he had the chance?

Grandeeney and the other Dragons didn't lie to Natsu, they simply ran out of time to tell them all they knew and why they did what they did, Grandeeney said so herself in Chapter 415 when the Dragons were about to say their final goodbyes. As for Acnologia, perhaps he found a way to be able to turn back into a human? He's been a Dragon for over 400 years now, so why couldn't he of found a way to turn back into a human. Or maybe losing his arm caused the change to be reversed and now allows him to switch between being a human and a dragon.

 

[Mohsen]

Acnologia's markings on his body are likely from his Dragon Slayer magic, and not tattoos, as their design also appear on his Dragon form.

There was nothing to say that Acnologia didn't fight them and absorb their souls in the manga, nor was there anything saying he was away from them when he absorbed their souls with his Dragon Slayer magic. Its just an assumption that he was well away from them to absorb their souls. Magic has a limited range, so to do something with his magic, he'd need to be close to the dragons, i.e fighting them. As for the Dragon, what makes you think Acnologia wouldn't of killed that Dragon after he learnt the magic? We know he and the other Dragon Slayers in that time betrayed the Dragons by killing them once they gained their power, so whats to say Acnologia wouldn't of killed that Dragon when he had the chance?

Grandeeney and the other Dragons didn't lie to Natsu, they simply ran out of time to tell them all they knew and why they did what they did, Grandeeney said so herself in Chapter 415 when the Dragons were about to say their final goodbyes. As for Acnologia, perhaps he found a way to be able to turn back into a human? He's been a Dragon for over 400 years now, so why couldn't he of found a way to turn back into a human. Or maybe losing his arm caused the change to be reversed and now allows him to switch between being a human and a dragon.

If such a Dragon existed that can control death and life then there wouldn't be any need for the dragons who were on the humans side to teach humans DS magic to win the war cause that dragon alone would have ended it.

Like I said Igneel and Acnologia didn't know each other and 400 years ago Igneel met END not clashed with Acnologia. If Igneel and Acnologia would have met then Igneel would have know the strength of Acnologia and Acnologia would have known about Igneel's strength. Acnologia only realized that Igneel is the flame dragon king cause he started gettinghis ass handed to him. And if Igneel and Acnologia met once then Acnologia would have known that he is fighting only a fraction of Igneels power and his ghost. But Acnologia did none of that. Which leads me to believe that Acnologia and at least Igneel never met personally.

There is magic that can engulf the whole world. So your argument is kinda not fitting. See Face, the etherios canaon of the council and so on.


You mean besides talking BS Grandine was right not to tell FT that Natsu is END? Wouldn't that be the first thing she should have told them to make them ready for what is going to happen to FT and that Zeref will start to target them all because of his little brother.

well it could be that Grandine like Atlas Flame doesn't know that Natsu is END but even the describtion of END is questionable.

400 years ago Zeref awakens Natsu. The other demons such as Marde geer and so on were created before natsu. But at the same time Natsu meets/clashes with Igneel.And also in the same time frame Acnologia goes berserk. So when did ENd has the time to found a guild,invent curses, teach it to the demons who are older than him,meeting igneel and staying with him,Acnologia abosorbing the life of all dragons and so on?

Not only does Acnologia have makrs on his body he also seems to be using some kind of red color for his whole skin which makes him resemble aborighinis, maya or indians.

 

[SirSamuel016]

If such a Dragon existed that can control death and life then there wouldn't be any need for the dragons who were on the humans side to teach humans DS magic to win the war cause that dragon alone would have ended it.

Like I said Igneel and Acnologia didn't know each other and 400 years ago Igneel met END not clashed with Acnologia. If Igneel and Acnologia would have met then Igneel would have know the strength of Acnologia and Acnologia would have known about Igneel's strength. Acnologia only realized that Igneel is the flame dragon king cause he started gettinghis ass handed to him. And if Igneel and Acnologia met once then Acnologia would have known that he is fighting only a fraction of Igneels power and his ghost. But Acnologia did none of that. Which leads me to believe that Acnologia and at least Igneel never met personally.

There is magic that can engulf the whole world. So your argument is kinda not fitting. See Face, the etherios canaon of the council and so on.


You mean besides talking BS Grandine was right not to tell FT that Natsu is END? Wouldn't that be the first thing she should have told them to make them ready for what is going to happen to FT and that Zeref will start to target them all because of his little brother.

well it could be that Grandine like Atlas Flame doesn't know that Natsu is END but even the describtion of END is questionable.

400 years ago Zeref awakens Natsu. The other demons such as Marde geer and so on were created before natsu. But at the same time Natsu meets/clashes with Igneel.And also in the same time frame Acnologia goes berserk. So when did ENd has the time to found a guild,invent curses, teach it to the demons who are older than him,meeting igneel and staying with him,Acnologia abosorbing the life of all dragons and so on?

Not only does Acnologia have makrs on his body he also seems to be using some kind of red color for his whole skin which makes him resemble aborighinis, maya or indians.

How can you explain Acnologia absorbing Igneel and the other Dragon's souls around 400 years ago when you say he has never seen or known about them before? The idea which you suggested that Acnoloigia thought his Dragon opponent was the king of the flame dragons because he was being matched would be one crazy guess to get that right, but really for Acnologia to know what Igneel looked like and to be able to name him, he'd of had to have seen him before, i.e when he fought them and absorbed their souls.
It wasn't that Grandeeney chose not to tell them that natsu was END among other things, but that the Dragons were right thenand there about to fully die, as shown here: http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/415/14 And no, it wouldn't be the first thing they'd say seeing Acnologia had just left and that the dragons were re-uniting with their Dragon Slayers after the battle of Tartarus. And of course, they had to tell the dragon slayers why they did what they did in the first place, because otherwise how would they of known the predicament the dragons were in?
"400 years ago" is loosely thrown around in Fairy Tail. There is no exact date of when this "400 years ago" took place, with the Demons being created, and the 400 years ago where Acnologia clashed with the dragons.

 

[Mohsen]

How can you explain Acnologia absorbing Igneel and the other Dragon's souls around 400 years ago when you say he has never seen or known about them before? The idea which you suggested that Acnoloigia thought his Dragon opponent was the king of the flame dragons because he was being matched would be one crazy guess to get that right, but really for Acnologia to know what Igneel looked like and to be able to name him, he'd of had to have seen him before, i.e when he fought them and absorbed their souls.
It wasn't that Grandeeney chose not to tell them that natsu was END among other things, but that the Dragons were right thenand there about to fully die, as shown here: http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/415/14 And no, it wouldn't be the first thing they'd say seeing Acnologia had just left and that the dragons were re-uniting with their Dragon Slayers after the battle of Tartarus. And of course, they had to tell the dragon slayers why they did what they did in the first place, because otherwise how would they of known the predicament the dragons were in?
"400 years ago" is loosely thrown around in Fairy Tail. There is no exact date of when this "400 years ago" took place, with the Demons being created, and the 400 years ago where Acnologia clashed with the dragons.

Look even Metallicana was suprised that Acnologia could handle Igneel. He said even Igneel couldn't do anything against Acnologia and then admitted well it is understandable cause Igneel was nowhere near 100 %. If Igneel fought Acnologia once and lost then Metalicana wouldn't state such a thing. And seeing that Metallicana though Igneel would maybe do better also implies that he Metallicana never fought acnologia personally too.

Igneel being the flame dragon king is not so suprising and Acnologia knowing it is also not suprising even though he never met him. A dragon that can half dead match Acnologia or even overpower him for some time and who also uses fire as his element can only be the flame dragon king.

The god of life and death also cursed Zeref and he was not even near Zeref. So why is it so farfetched to think Acnologia could have affected all Dragons without actually meeting them? Maybe Acnologia has a link to all Dragons like Dr.Xavier of X-men- He also can connect and find all mutants and kill them without being anywhere near the.

You also have a certain misunderstanding Acnologia didn't only clash with the dragons but with every living being. He is targeting both humans,dragons and demons. Another point is that Acnologia met END and is kinda afraid of him accrording to Igneel. So Acnologia already was who he is now when he and END met and this had to be before Igneel met END cause form that point on Igneel took END in. You wanna tell me Igneel dead fought END and took him in? Then how strong is Igneel to begin with?

 

[metsujin]

This information is wrong. If Zeref helped Acnologia to become a dragon than it is strange that he doesn't know how Acnologia's human form looks like. We saw Natsu killing the god of war pretty easily. So why do you think the god of life and death is way stronger than the god of war. Does Zeref know who the god of life and death is? Natsu also doesn't know that Zeref is his brother and as long as Zeref doesn't tell him Natsu might never realize it. So if Zeref never met the god of life and death then he also wouldn't know who he is even if he meets him besides the god of life and death says yo I'm the god of life and death.

The are many misinformation in this manga which are:
-Zeref being sealed, Zeref being taught by demons, zeref being a demon and so on.
-END being the vilest demon of all
-Dragonification is something that can't be undone
-Mavis created the three FT spells which in reality Zeref created and taught her
-and a few other things that I can't remember.

In the end the gods were defeated by the dragons cause the dragons ruled the world 400 years ago and not the gods. So in a sense the dragons are above the gods cause if not then why did the dragons rule til the started fighting each other? Acnologia not only hates dragons but humans too so if he is a human why is he also trying to kill the humans? What did the humans do to him?

Regarding the misinformation, the ones who are not informed are the people from the Fairy Tail universe. Because if you look at this, Hades thought that he needed some sort of keys to awaken Zeref, which Zeref replies "You believed in those fairy tales. I was always awake" Or something along those lines (chapter 250 for confirmation). The ones who are misinformed about certain part of the history in FT are the characters. Because, example our own history, we can't say that what happened X-years ago, was true or false, because we didn't live in that period, we can however assume what might've happen and such.
Regarding the gods, I think Ankshelam (or whatever his name is), is the "true" god of the FT world aka like how God is for us, ruler of life and death and such. The other ones the Battle Gods, seem more like summoned beasts. Because if you look at when the priest summons this "God" he says "Ye war god of contract... pay forth the compensation for my sacrifice", so it's more like a summoned beast only with more powers, but this thing didn't use any kind of magic, so it was just a huge monster. I'm no expert in biology and antibodies or whatever, but Igneel himself says in chapter 415 "Thanks the those antibodies there's ALMOST (so there's a almost) zero chances that you'd turn into a dragon". Assuming dragonification isn't something that can be undone, Acnologia didn't have a dragon inside of him to stop that, and the dragons didn't say you can't go back into human after that, they said too much dragon slayer magic turns you into a dragon. And about Zeref teaching Mavis more about magic, that I found pretty ironic to be honest. It seems, that Mashima-sensei chose the route of explaining everything by the end, like a puzzle, you put the pieces together, and you get the whole picture. Sorry if I misspelled xD

 

[SirSamuel016]

Regarding the misinformation, the ones who are not informed are the people from the Fairy Tail universe. Because if you look at this, Hades thought that he needed some sort of keys to awaken Zeref, which Zeref replies "You believed in those fairy tales. I was always awake" Or something along those lines (chapter 250 for confirmation). The ones who are misinformed about certain part of the history in FT are the characters. Because, example our own history, we can't say that what happened X-years ago, was true or false, because we didn't live in that period, we can however assume what might've happen and such.
Regarding the gods, I think Ankshelam (or whatever his name is), is the "true" god of the FT world aka like how God is for us, ruler of life and death and such. The other ones the Battle Gods, seem more like summoned beasts. Because if you look at when the priest summons this "God" he says "Ye war god of contract... pay forth the compensation for my sacrifice", so it's more like a summoned beast only with more powers, but this thing didn't use any kind of magic, so it was just a huge monster. I'm no expert in biology and antibodies or whatever, but Igneel himself says in chapter 415 "Thanks the those antibodies there's ALMOST (so there's a almost) zero chances that you'd turn into a dragon". Assuming dragonification isn't something that can be undone, Acnologia didn't have a dragon inside of him to stop that, and the dragons didn't say you can't go back into human after that, they said too much dragon slayer magic turns you into a dragon. And about Zeref teaching Mavis more about magic, that I found pretty ironic to be honest. It seems, that Mashima-sensei chose the route of explaining everything by the end, like a puzzle, you put the pieces together, and you get the whole picture. Sorry if I misspelled xD

A lot of the misinformation is indeed from the beliefs of the characters themselves. Acnologia being able to return to a human form may be the first case of its kind, and thats probably why the dragons thought it would be impossible for someone that was human who became a dragon to return to their human form, or there could be something more to it, like maybe something happened in his fight with Igneel which now allows him to return to a human form. I think Hiro said in an interview that there are many things yet to be answered, and some of those won't be answered by the series end, which is a shame if this is true as there would probably be some interesting things that occurred in the FT universe which we may never know happened or why they happened.

 

[smurf777]

According to Zeref Acnologia simply desires to fight with his full power against a strong opponent which means that the reason he appears wherever there's a huge conflict between good and evil is to find such an opponent and when he gets disappointing he lashes out by destroying everything .
Now Zeref wants to awaken Natsu as E.N.D and that requires of him to attack Natsu and his friends and give them despair and that means another good and evil showdown so he met with Acnologia and gave him a promise to have him fight with his full power in order for him not to interfere with Natsu's awakening .
To sum it up we'll see Natsu Vs Zeref , Natsu Awakens as E.N.D defeats Zeref and then we'll have E.N.D vs Acnologia ...there wont be Zeref vs Acnologia .

 

[metsujin]

According to Zeref Acnologia simply desires to fight with his full power against a strong opponent which means that the reason he appears wherever there's a huge conflict between good and evil is to find such an opponent and when he gets disappointing he lashes out by destroying everything .
Now Zeref wants to awaken Natsu as E.N.D and that requires of him to attack Natsu and his friends and give them despair and that means another good and evil showdown so he met with Acnologia and gave him a promise to have him fight with his full power in order for him not to interfere with Natsu's awakening .
To sum it up we'll see Natsu Vs Zeref , Natsu Awakens as E.N.D defeats Zeref and then we'll have E.N.D vs Acnologia ...there wont be Zeref vs Acnologia .

Before E.N.D vs. Acnologia (or after) we'll definitely have a E.N.D vs. Gray

 

[smurf777]

Before E.N.D vs. Acnologia (or after) we'll definitely have a E.N.D vs. Gray

I think the reason Zeref sealed Natsu's demon powers and Igneel raising him was in order for him not to turn evil once he became E.N.D.
He's Zeref's greatest creation what if the reason for sealing him was because his powers were to great to control and made him go on a rampage , and if thanks to Igneel's teachings he can keep it under control there would be no reason for him and gray to fight.

 

[love natsu]

I think the reason Zeref sealed Natsu's demon powers and Igneel raising him was in order for him not to turn evil once he became E.N.D.
He's Zeref's greatest creation what if the reason for sealing him was because his powers were to great to control and made him go on a rampage , and if thanks to Igneel's teachings he can keep it under control there would be no reason for him and gray to fight.

e.n.d will be stronger than gray
of course gray will say himself sorry my father
e.n.d strongest me T_T

 

[wooticus]

I assume Acnologia is the god of life and death. We know for a fact that Acnologia somehow absorbed the lives of all Dragons. Who else besides the god of life and death could be able to do this? Acnologia didn't fight Igneel 400 years ago and neither did he fight Grandine,Metallicana and so on but all of them died because of him. Or Acnologia could be the son of that god who is rebelling.

Now this would mean that it was Acnologia who gave Zeref the curse. I doubt that it even a curse but the power Zeref was birn with that he can't control I wouldn't even be suprised if Acnologia is the father of Natsu and Zeref. Why else would Acnologia who doesn't talk to humans and even looks down on Dragon allow Zeref to come near him and even show him his human form. At least this would explain the talent of Natsu and Zeref and there talent with magic. Natsu as a kid created curses and Zeref invented the special techniques of Fairy Tail and other nasty stuff.

Well.. might this be the case? Theory sounds awesome to me. If Zeref's curse really is related to Acnologia he might have made Natsu the way he is to gain the ability to kill Acnologia. And then they all go down together.

 

[Nemispelled]

I'll be real and wait for END to show up before judging him. However, after recent chapters, I don't even think Zeref and Acnologia are on the same level. Acnologia is definitely superior and would crush him. Hence is why Zeref organized an entire military the size of a nation just to compete with Acnologia.

Ultimately, push comes to shove, it will be a final showdown between Humans vs. END vs Acnologia. It also depends on END's awakening. Sometimes, when an organism is awakened, it doesn't necessarily means that it is in full power. In my opinion though, Zeref's reign should end before Acnologia's in theory.