Hangout New Prince of Tennis General + Q&A

[mathematicianrcg]

Niou's episode is going up in a few hours. Thought I want to ask the readers of the manga, do you find Niou throwing away his illusion a great character development? I thought it was neat to see him play and use meteor drive, but I felt like without his illusion technique he is quite jarring and I think it would have been great if he learns from his illusions and incorporate them into his tennis style, but maybe I am missing something with the logic of POT world that he can really only use the technique while in illusion because he copies every mannerism of that user(This can I suppose be the same with Kabaji).

I hated it.

With Illusions, he is arguably the best and most versatile doubles player in the world.
(He can howling with anyone, and even copy/illusion as his doubles opponent to synchro with them, and break their teamwork)

Without illusion, he is back to Yagyuu tier level.Remember, in POT, Yagyuu is stronger than Niou (without illusion). That was illustrated back in Kanto Finals.

Don't get me wrong, the way he revealed his last ace as his own style, that was goosebumps. But it is a shame, he throw away illusions that made him a great asset.

 

[Hardy]

Niou's episode is going up in a few hours. Thought I want to ask the readers of the manga, do you find Niou throwing away his illusion a great character development? I thought it was neat to see him play and use meteor drive, but I felt like without his illusion technique he is quite jarring and I think it would have been great if he learns from his illusions and incorporate them into his tennis style, but maybe I am missing something with the logic of POT world that he can really only use the technique while in illusion because he copies every mannerism of that user(This can I suppose be the same with Kabaji).

I liked it. Niou was barely a character at this point in the series, he was just a replacement for players and situations that Konomi wanted to show us but otherwise couldn't (Golden Pair, Tezuka-Atobe, Ryoma-Atobe, Duke-Byoudouin, Duke-Camus, etc). The final point is the best in the entire match and shows Niou at full power.

 

[Hardy]

A lot of new translations were uploaded today, all the way to 388 and the end of the selection mini arc.

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Currently reading but I didn't remember that Amadeus recognised Bambieri's parkour from afar, decent foreshadowing.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

A lot of new translations were uploaded today, all the way to 387 and the end of the selection mini arc.

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Currently reading but I didn't remember that Amadeus recognised Bambieri's parkour from afar, decent foreshadowing.

What? What chapter interaction between Amadeus and Silva?

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A lot of new translations were uploaded today, all the way to 387 and the end of the selection mini arc.

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 28, 2024, Original Post Date: Nov 28, 2024 ---

Currently reading but I didn't remember that Amadeus recognised Bambieri's parkour from afar, decent foreshadowing.

I mean

Seda with Zeus foreshadow. Seda use his Mt Olympus Light Aura. (Which should be only exclusive to Zeus, but Niou and Seda managed to use it)

Romeo with Bismarck foreshadow. No Connection. Unless you argue Romeo Infinite Stamina is foreshadowed by Bismarck's Unbeatable Tiebreak Games.

Mares with Jean Foreshadow. LITERALLY NOTHING. That scene is remotely close to useless. Mares didn't gain anything from Jean, who is relatively a very weak player compared to Players in Semis and Finals.

Silva with Amadeus Foreshadow. At least we can assume Bambieri and Amadeus played against each other. And it is correct!!!. Bambieri even countered Amadeus Dark side. (I kinda hate that Amadeus is only used now as a power scaler tool for players like Ralph and Bambieri)

Julio has no foreshadow with other players.

 

[-Ken-]

Sanada did better than thought he would. After mastering the triple clutch, he fair off 3-2 against Tokugawa. I still think he got done dirty, but it wasn't as bad as it feels when I read the raw.

I thought Kintarou would be a lot worst against Yukimura/Renji pair but it like he's holding his weight some what up until Renji gather his data which is 6-5 into the game?

Fuji and Duke are really a waste of potential. I wonder if Japan can win better against Spain if they utilized those two properly. There's also Irie as well

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Sanada did better than thought he would. After mastering the triple clutch, he fair off 3-2 against Tokugawa. I still think he got done dirty, but it wasn't as bad as it feels when I read the raw.

I thought Kintarou would be a lot worst against Yukimura/Renji pair but it like he's holding his weight some what up until Renji gather his data which is 6-5 into the game?

Fuji and Duke are really a waste of potential. I wonder if Japan can win better against Spain if they utilized those two properly.

Hmmm.

My Hot Take is

Mares/Seda will beat Duke/Fuji Pair in D2 if ever they play there.

But it will be closer than Ohmagari who is an Imposter among us with Mares, Seda, annd Kintarou. Lol

 

[-Ken-]

I'll add something on the last doubles. So apparently for Kintarou, Tanegashima never disappear or something? And honestly Ohmagari impress me in this match more than the final which is sad lol.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

I'll add something on the last doubles. So apparently for Kintarou, Tanegashima never disappear or something? And honestly Ohmagari impress me in this match more than the final which is sad lol.

Lol. All his new moves is just developed to counter Tanegashima only. Lmao

 

[Hardy]

The matches sort of played as I thought they did... Sengoku's was even lamer, sadly. Kirihara's quips were funny.

I'll add something on the last doubles. So apparently for Kintarou, Tanegashima never disappear or something? And honestly Ohmagari impress me in this match more than the final which is sad lol.

Yeah, it's probably because Kintarou has superhuman sight (as good as an eagle's, according to the fanbooks).

What? What chapter interaction between Amadeus and Silva?

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I mean

Seda with Zeus foreshadow. Seda use his Mt Olympus Light Aura. (Which should be only exclusive to Zeus, but Niou and Seda managed to use it)

Romeo with Bismarck foreshadow. No Connection. Unless you argue Romeo Infinite Stamina is foreshadowed by Bismarck's Unbeatable Tiebreak Games.

Mares with Jean Foreshadow. LITERALLY NOTHING. That scene is remotely close to useless. Mares didn't gain anything from Jean, who is relatively a very weak player compared to Players in Semis and Finals.

Silva with Amadeus Foreshadow. At least we can assume Bambieri and Amadeus played against each other. And it is correct!!!. Bambieri even countered Amadeus Dark side. (I kinda hate that Amadeus is only used now as a power scaler tool for players like Ralph and Bambieri)

Julio has no foreshadow with other players.

Mares with Jean showed us he's a doubles player, I guess.

Julio's emotional awareness was commented on several times.

I think Konomi is mostly using Julio's character to give backstories for Medanore which is why his match was moved to be played right before S1 (instead of having S1 and S2 simply switch places). I like Julio a lot so I don't really mind it.

 

[LetalHawk]

Ohmagari just had much more doubles experience than Yuki/Yanagi and that’s what made them grasp victory, he even praised Mirage Mirror and their good combination.

I still think that Yukimura in singles beats Ohmagari handidly, and that doubles isn’t his forte even though he’s not bad at all.

Interesting how Echizen just held back and wanted to return all of Fuji’s arsenal, but the match was very bad imo.

Duke’s name for his kijin, Hakai no Majin, is even cooler now that we’ve seen the official name for it.

And Kin just casually shat on Fuemu, and with his recent upgrades, Tane is very hopeless if they had a match lol. Kin also returned shots from Seda’s Rainbow Aura and that’s much more difficult to deal with than Mu. I’m sure now he’s fast enough to deal with the returns.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Ohmagari just had much more doubles experience than Yuki/Yanagi and that’s what made them grasp victory, he even praised Mirage Mirror and their good combination.

I still think that Yukimura in singles beats Ohmagari handidly, and that doubles isn’t his forte even though he’s not bad at all.

Interesting how Echizen just held back and wanted to return all of Fuji’s arsenal, but the match was very bad imo.

Duke’s name for his kijin, Hakai no Majin, is even cooler now that we’ve seen the official name for it.

And Kin just casually shat on Fuemu, and with his recent upgrades, Tane is very hopeless if they had a match lol. Kin also returned shots from Seda’s Rainbow Aura and that’s much more difficult to deal with than Mu. I’m sure now he’s fast enough to deal with the returns.

Tanegashima is a strong player. But his special Void moves are very returnable.

Bismarck BASE tennis can return it. (It was not even explained how he did. Lol)

Heck, Ohmagari can return it. Lmao.

And ofc, Pre Powerup Kin also managed to do it in Intra.

 

[-Ken-]

Ohmagari just had much more doubles experience than Yuki/Yanagi and that’s what made them grasp victory, he even praised Mirage Mirror and their good combination.

I still think that Yukimura in singles beats Ohmagari handidly, and that doubles isn’t his forte even though he’s not bad at all.

Interesting how Echizen just held back and wanted to return all of Fuji’s arsenal, but the match was very bad imo.

Fuji just looks way too strong being able to match up with Echizen to the point it seems like he stand a decent chance against Tezuka lol.

Reading the chapter itself make me revised Ohmagari position a bit. From the spoiler, I thought Ohmagari manhandle Yukimura/Yanagi pair due to his experiences and carried Kintarou who was really bad at doubles. That originally ruin Yukimura ranking for me because I thought he's currently at least a low G5 level. But it seems like Kintarou didn't do as horrendous as the spoiler sound and the pair was already leading 6-5 when Yanagi gather the data and about to counter attack but got shut down by Ohmagari.

As is, I can probably still put Yukimura at low G5 level.

 

[Tavore]

Fuji just looks way too strong being able to match up with Echizen to the point it seems like he stand a decent chance against Tezuka lol.

Reading the chapter itself make me revised Ohmagari position a bit. From the spoiler, I thought Ohmagari manhandle Yukimura/Yanagi pair due to his experiences and carried Kintarou who was really bad at doubles. That originally ruin Yukimura ranking for me because I thought he's currently at least a low G5 level. But it seems like Kintarou didn't do as horrendous as the spoiler sound and the pair was already leading 6-5 when Yanagi gather the data and about to counter attack but got shut down by Ohmagari.

As is, I can probably still put Yukimura at low G5 level.

Tezuka would probably beat this version of Ryoma tbh.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Fuji just looks way too strong being able to match up with Echizen to the point it seems like he stand a decent chance against Tezuka lol.

Reading the chapter itself make me revised Ohmagari position a bit. From the spoiler, I thought Ohmagari manhandle Yukimura/Yanagi pair due to his experiences and carried Kintarou who was really bad at doubles. That originally ruin Yukimura ranking for me because I thought he's currently at least a low G5 level. But it seems like Kintarou didn't do as horrendous as the spoiler sound and the pair was already leading 6-5 when Yanagi gather the data and about to counter attack but got shut down by Ohmagari.

As is, I can probably still put Yukimura at low G5 level.

The reason why we are having a hard time ranking Yukimura's ranking.

is because Tezuka didn't dominate him.

And we all agreed Tezuka is like Mid G5 Level.

Though some posters here argue. Factors like:

"Tezuka was holding back." (@Hardy even referenced Siegfried reaction that Tezuka is not playing in his usual standard)

"Yukimura only did well against Tezuka becuase of Atobe's Tip and Inui's Data.." (I remember someone here even argue we are underestmating Inui's data help)

Something like those.

For reference,

When we matchup Tezuka VS Duke. Most said Tezuka Will win.

When we matchup Yuki and Duke. Most said Duke will win evidenced by Yuki's inferiority statement diuring Duke VS Toku match.

 

[PinnacleofSorcery]

Reading the recent translations, just made me realize that this arc is bad as I've heard people say(I haven't completely caught up with the manga that much till recently). I did not see how Tokugawa and Echizen won their respective position, and Atobe won artificially like why... The one I like here more is Ochi and Mouri battle they seem more "complete" and it's nice to see Ryuuji and Kintarou pair but Ryuuji is definitely carrying Kin but at the same time he grows more and more, and within such a short time span. Shiraishi is really picking up from Kimijima and Tanegashima.

The more I read on Spain the more I see them as monsters compare to Germany, Germany is strong no doubt, but Spain got a more advance Kikumaru that can jump from building to building, Julio is very accurate and can read through everyobody thoughts and feelings, Romeo and Seda incorporating psychology in their tennis and Mares with her long sniping skill. Medanore is definitely going to be really good if the people under his command are monsters in their own right. Also Julio if he is to be voice I want the guy who played Vash in the recent trigun to voice him because they have similar philosophy of love and peace.

EDIT: Kabaji is such a good friend that scene of him stopping Atobe was honestly really nice and probably one of my highlights within this arc.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Reading the recent translations, just made me realize that this arc is bad as I've heard people say(I haven't completely caught up with the manga that much till recently). I did not see how Tokugawa and Echizen won their respective position, and Atobe won artificially like why... The one I like here more is Ochi and Mouri battle they seem more "complete" and it's nice to see Ryuuji and Kintarou pair but Ryuuji is definitely carrying Kin but at the same time he grows more and more, and within such a short time span. Shiraishi is really picking up from Kimijima and Tanegashima.

The more I read on Spain the more I see them as monsters compare to Germany, Germany is strong no doubt, but Spain got a more advance Kikumaru that can jump from building to building, Julio is very accurate and can read through everyobody thoughts and feelings, Romeo and Seda incorporating psychology in their tennis and Mares with her long sniping skill. Medanore is definitely going to be really good if the people under his command are monsters in their own right. Also Julio if he is to be voice I want the guy who played Vash in the recent trigun to voice him because they have similar philosophy of love and peace.

Medanore give me chills.

That Diary of his is interesting. Writing every thing happened every few minutes.

Also, the way he said to Ryoga. That he will play against him in practice anytime. But Ryoga is banned by playing other Spain players because their skills will be stolen.

Ryoga appreciating and recognizing Spain Players strength and uniqueness.

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Some Notes about Spain

1. How the hell did Sedah and Romeo didn't know each other names. LMAO.

2. Sedah Introduction give you chills. Because South Korea players tell that Sedah might kill them.

3. Rodrigo really hate Ryoga. However, His assistants Felipe and Adrian. Looks like they are Spain regular players too.

4. Konomi really designed a lot of spain players outside of the 7 players playing in Spain. There are 2 Spain Reps talking to Julio about Bambieri too. Lol

5. No signs of the Giant Guy beside Ryoga in USA Semis. (That @Hardy and I think is a doubles specialist)

 

[PinnacleofSorcery]

Medanore give me chills.

That Diary of his is interesting. Writing every thing happened every few minutes.

Also, the way he said to Ryoga. That he will play against him in practice anytime. But Ryoga is banned by playing other Spain players because their skills will be stolen.

Ryoga appreciating and recognizing Spain Players strength and uniqueness.

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Some Notes about Spain

1. How the hell did Sedah and Romeo didn't know each other names. LMAO.

2. Sedah Introduction give you chills. Because South Korea players tell that Sedah might kill them.

3. Rodrigo really hate Ryoga. However, His assistants Felipe and Adrian. Looks like they are Spain regular players too.

4. Konomi really designed a lot of spain players outside of the 7 players playing in Spain. There are 2 Spain Reps talking to Julio about Bambieri too. Lol

5. No signs of the Giant Guy beside Ryoga in USA Semis. (That @Hardy and I think is a doubles specialist)

Sedah is describe as someone who is a loner, and from the early chapter we really see that like other Spanish regulars he likes to do his own thing, not really giving a thing what anyone else says(I can say the same for most of the guys playing in the match against Japan).

 

[Adamska]

I read some of matches
Fuji vs Ryoma was an even match. But Ryoma got upper hand not just for the rain, because he is Ryoma! who becomes stronger in desperate situations.
Which I think that's why he give up on his Light Of Pride.
Duke even is stronger than I thought!
He sees himself as Boss's Rival!
... Spanish HSers are really strong! Like as good as Amadeus!
I assume Germany beats France and Swiss beats Spain.
So it is confirmed that Tezuka is the strongest MSers around.

...
I Saw Boss name on Medanore's diary, noted something like: asks Ryoga about Boss!
I don't understand that how these guys who've been alongside Medanore, don't have any clue of his style?
Looks like secret will be revealed during S1.
...
I saw Romeo once again, Atobe was in deep luck tbh.
Though sometimes it's like he is in high level as Bismarck yet I can't see him beating guys like Duke or any G5.
I wish there was some kind of match about it.
Sanada vs Tokugawa is best we have so far.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

I read some of matches
Fuji vs Ryoma was an even match. But Ryoma got upper hand not just for the rain, because he is Ryoma! who becomes stronger in desperate situations.
Which I think that's why he give up on his Light Of Pride.
Duke even is stronger than I thought!
He sees himself as Boss's Rival!
... Spanish HSers are really strong! Like as good as Amadeus!
I assume Germany beats France and Swiss beats Spain.
So it is confirmed that Tezuka is the strongest MSers around.

...
I Saw Boss name on Medanore's diary, noted something like: asks Ryoga about Boss!
I don't understand that how these guys who've been alongside Medanore, don't have any clue of his style?
Looks like secret will be revealed during S1.
...
I saw Romeo once again, Atobe was in deep luck tbh.
Though sometimes it's like he is in high level as Bismarck yet I can't see him beating guys like Duke or any G5.
I wish there was some kind of match about it.
Sanada vs Tokugawa is best we have so far.

You really dont want any Mser to beat G5 except Ryoga, Ryoma, and Tezuka.

 

[Adamska]

You really dont want any Mser to beat G5 except Ryoga, Ryoma, and Tezuka.

Ofc I want to see that.
In one hand Romeo stepped up and challenged Bismarck.
Then we have Tokugawa VS Sanada.
-beated him with by maybe half of his power yet let him to perfected his triple clutch. Otherwise 6-0.
Tokugawa VS Duke. Beated him with his full power and amazed guy like Yukimura!
Atobe vs Romeo. He barely beated him, but was able to counter everything.
Monster VS Amadeus.
Took a game from a pro! Though he wouldn't win but shows how strong he can be.
While he was using his power with all of his might but it wasn't half good enough!

I think right now:

Rank S
Tezuka

Rank A+
Romeo, Atobe, Yukimura, Kintarou, Sedah
Ryoma.Fuji, Monster, Henry, Prince

Rank S
Volk, Medanore, Boss, Tokugawa, Ryoga

Rank A+
Q.P, Amadeus, Ralph, Cameo, Zeus.

Rank A
Bismarck, Julio, Silva, Mares, Duke, Oni, Amadeus, Cameo, Tane, Zeus.

MSers should forget about HSers rank S.
Tezuka vs A+ (HSers)?