Negative Syndicate
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Re: [NEW] Nisekoi by KOMI Naoshi
Also, I never said Nisekoi is bad; I only said there aren't anything new about it. If Komi keep putting this typical routine, then I'll lose interest in early stage because it will be too predictable. What I want is different routine that is different from other romcoms.
After reading chapter 5, I predict that it'll be either Onodera makes excuse and Raku believes her or Onodera tells a truth and (possibly) their relationship will become deeper. I, mostly, prefer a later to happen because it'll be interesting to see Raku tries to balance both Onodera's real relationship and Chitoge's fake relationship. I don't think I see any romcom that is happened the later one. If first aspect did occurred, then it might lead to another typical romcom route again.
Your asking for examples? That means you want me to give hundreds of romcom series as examples. I'm saying that so far, Nisekoi is following general romcom routines. For instance, like first chapter, main male and female lead meet first (?) time → they had fight → find out that female (or male) lead is new student → both surprised → a teacher let those two sit together because s/he thought those two knew each other; this is typical romcom routine.Examples please. I like Nisekoi and I like slice of life, whether romcon or not. I would like to read these manga that are so similar to Nisekoi, and am bewildered how despite being a fan of the genre I have overlooked so many. Whether true or not it is nearly impossible, and makes for a very poor argument, to compare a manga negatively to other, unspecified titles. Along with unqualified denouncements of quality based on qualities that have not been specified make for a terrible discussion. Nisekoi does follow genre conventions, though this is not a negative as novelty generally makes for poor writing. With only five chapters rewriting the rules of a genre is certainly a bit much to expect, so please: where does Nisekoi come up lacking when compared to other examples of slice of life/romcon/school life? There is nothing with disliking a manga based on subjective taste. But it is a very poor argument to claim to make a seemingly objective claim that a manga is somehow inadequate based on a reason as open to interpretation as being "typical" of genre. One Piece is typical of it's genre but no one would make a claim that it is bad. Neither H2 or Cross Game were very different than Touch, yet no who has read them ever complain. Kimi ni Todoke follows the same blue print as Lovely Complex, as do most shoujo romcon. But that does not take away from what a great story KimiTodo is. Not that Nisekoi should be compared to those manga, comparing a five chapter manga to such classics would make about as much sense as comparing Kagami and Nisekoi. But it goes to show that being if being "typical" means following genre conventions than being "typical" does not mean being bad. Hopefully being "typical" does not mean lacking novelty, as adding novel features to a genre does not really have much of a positive or negative effect on story telling.
Also, I never said Nisekoi is bad; I only said there aren't anything new about it. If Komi keep putting this typical routine, then I'll lose interest in early stage because it will be too predictable. What I want is different routine that is different from other romcoms.
Double Arts have lots of things unexplained because it was cancelled. Some authors choose to uncover all of series' secrets and the others do not. Komi chose later one, so many things are left unexplained.Double Arts was a very charming manga with very interesting, likable characters but had an aimless, meandering plot that was unraveling by chapter 5. By chapter 5 they were traveling to a never specified location and were soon fighting villains whose role and affiliation was never explained. But simply saying something is bad as it is "typical" is a thread killer, no one who likes the series could possibly debate something so vague successfully. Hopefully they come back to discuss the new chapter, it is kind of sad not having people who actually like the series to talk to.
My point is about a romocom routine, not a background.However, I think what Negative's point is that its nothing too new to have a romance comedy based on the leads having crazy backgrounds - perhaps though Nisekoi kind of adds to this a bit by having BOTH sides be part of the crazy background.
After reading chapter 5, I predict that it'll be either Onodera makes excuse and Raku believes her or Onodera tells a truth and (possibly) their relationship will become deeper. I, mostly, prefer a later to happen because it'll be interesting to see Raku tries to balance both Onodera's real relationship and Chitoge's fake relationship. I don't think I see any romcom that is happened the later one. If first aspect did occurred, then it might lead to another typical romcom route again.