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Spoiler Noblesse Chapter 478 Spoiler Thread

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  1. Lady pompom

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    Did Muzuka threaten Rai or something? If so, why?
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    If Muzuka is still holding on to the grudge that Rai stopped him from slaughtering those Humans because he thought it was all there fault. That is stupid. It makes Muzuka as a character look very stupid. Not his fault, he ain't real but I would say that, it isn't a wise move by the authors.

    Anyway, that's my opinion. I really love noblesse but if it starts going into a direction I don't like. I think I might have to move on to something else.
     
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    Seems to me Muzaka still blames the Humans in some way, which I can agree with but I hope he isn't putting the full blame on them. Because Maduke and his followers made their own choices without human influence and they used each other.
     
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    I Translated to interview
    Mazoka with Riezal
    ......................................................

    (After the kids left)

    I felt it before, but it's good kids.
    I think I know why you changed.

    I always remember Ashlyn when I see those kids.
    I wanted to make him live like those kids ...

    Riezal.
    I want to hear your thoughts that I came to you.

    Will you stop me again this time?

    Muzaka. The death of Ashlein was probably done by the Werewolves who tried to get rid of you.

    Yes. But humans were also on the plan.

    It's not just Ashlin.

    The man also killed the mother of the child.

    Do you think that humans do not care because Maduku and the other guys are gone?

    Ashlyn was a little younger than the kids.

    There are children who have to live like those children before.

    ...Still
    I can not forget when Ashelin was cold in my arms.


    Muzaka. I have already enjoyed a long time.

    Those who have committed it have long since disappeared.

    Yes. But it does not matter.

    Because humans killed Ashlyn and her mother, who had no control over them.

    I kept the humans.
    Humans took everything away from me.

    This time it's my turn.

    Riezal. From now on I will put revenge on humans.

    Will you stop me again this time?

    Yes. Even if you changed ... I would have blocked me.

    I know what you mean.

    I will not touch the humans until I have a fight with you in exchange for helping me when I have a problem with the clan.

    I will fight with you when it appears before you again.

    If you want to protect a human being, defeat me.

    The next time we meet ...

    You are not a friend but an enemy.

    Stay well.
     
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    Thank You for this. Not going to lie I hope Muzaka gets consumed by Dark Spear now, I no longer care about him because the humans who wronged him are dead and most likely did what they did was because of Maduke. In the past they most likely would of never dared to mess with the werewolves like with the Nobles, so really the blame is with Maduke and his traitors.

    So yeah I hope Franky gets his chance of getting to fight Muzaka and feeding him to Dark Spear, cause i'm done with him.
     
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    cause i'm done with him.[/QUOTE]
    I have never seen a fool from Mazuka in my lif expectation is that Mazoka will already be food For a spear the darkness
     
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    The chapters have been going on the same routine for a while now, I'm so tired of seeing the same jokes being repeated over and over, noblesse srly need a long break now, the author need to start thinking how to bring back the old webtoon, and muzaka can just go die bc he is no longer worth the saving after forgetting who saved his clan From the annihilation :(
     
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    in this final battle i hope we see a major power up for rai or a rebirth which will make him regain his lost strength..my heart isnt strong enough to see rai die
     
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    Okay,Muzaka should receive the award of idiot of the year, just what? He retributes his friend fighting him :epicfacepalm. The guy seriously has brain issues, maybe 800 years being experiented must have messed more his damaged brain. But going against humans doesn't mean he will be against Crombell and the Union? His actions make no sense at all.
     
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    I'll be ok with this if it leads to a proper Frankenstein vs Muzaka fight. Muzaka has not only challenged his master, he's also threatened the kids.
     
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    I'm still wondering how this works for Muzaka, I mean, he will wait Garda get better and then tear apart his alliance with Crombell and proceed killing the humans or is he telling about killing innocent humans while letting union alive?

    Anyways, you're right, it would be a good pretext for Franky to finally get a chance of fighing the former werewolf lord, Muzaka has been waiting for a chance like that too. Let's see what Muzaka plans next.
     
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    I sincerely hope Muzaka gets consumed by Dark Spear now.This undermines the last arc where Maduke came clean and told the truth about the killing of Ashlyn.The Nobles and Werewolfs who conspired are dead and now he gains back the support of his people and his closest werewolf companion.He is still thinking about revenge then it just destroys the character or what little growth he could have had after the last arc.Humans in the past were not as strong as the werewolfs and nobles hence would not dare cross them and go along with the plan.It was not a human who had killed Ashlyn but a werewolf using a crossbow, no way he can know that now can he.If Muzaka had threatened the children he hung out with this chapter he is no different from the ones who killed his daughter , I would argue he is much worse.Muzaka now is just going about for petty revenge is just sad,he got most of the things he wanted back and he still aims for revenge.

    Another point to confirm Muzaka's stupidity he is cooperating with Crombell and gave him Garda.Crombell has been getting data from everyone and recently he got the data from the werewolf territory with Garda he gets the anti Muzaka weapon data and has the knowledge of the blood stone.If Muzaka is trying to cross Crombell after Garda heals he would fail.It would be cool if Crombell has his won version of dark spear and it absorbs Muzaka.

    Also I did not like the children arc going shopping and gaming with Muzaka , it just felt very repetitive.
     
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    Glad i'm not the one who is so done with Muzaka. Can he not make Raizel use his life force again after the unnecessary fight between them during werewolves episodes?? Sheet.

    The author might have been preparing the next conflict without even having hiatus, but how they keep beating the bush without any clear direction for one month worthed episode is too much.
     
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    Why shouldn't all werewolf including Muzaka be held accountable for plotting those two and many more deaths if that's how Muzaka's reasoning works. He kept werewolves and they took everything away from him including Rai. But nope. He wouldn't kill rest of were wolves for being the were wolves to kill his daughter but he holds all humans accountable and ready to kill Rai for that. He should kill himself first because they died for being associated with him. Jealous selfish thankless fool.

    Going by the summary werewolves are officially the stupidest tribe. Only Lunark seems to use her brain properly and I hope I didn't jinx it just now by saying that.

    Creators seem to be facing writer's block and yet pushing it.
     
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    So how exactly does Muzaka think he does stand a chance against Rai after seeing what Rai could have done to him 820 years ago if he simply wished to kill him?
    I mean Muzaka is having a big mouth cause he knows exactly that Rai will be fighting him and hesitate to kill him off. Especially cause Rai once killed his brother and may regret it so doing it again will be even harder for him.
     
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    I do agree with you.The nobles did not hold Ragus's daughter and his clansmen responsible because they had nothing to do with his betrayal.It should be the same for werewolves and humans.All the werewolves who were on Muzaka's side were killed except Garda according to Maduke.This makes Kentas,Lunark and the remaining werewolves equally responsible for Ashlyn's death according to Muzaka's logic.Muzaka himself is the biggest reason why his daughter and lover were killed , his stupidity and disregard for the werewolf throne created a rift in the werewolf community and due to his carelessness who knows how many humans and children were killed by Maduke and co.Now that I think about it, in the flashback where Rai and Muzaka first met ,Garda said that everyone in the werewolf family is against Muzaka so where did the mysterious pro Muzaka faction come to be ?

    The werewolves are truly the stupidest tribe including Kentas and Lunark.Lunark being an elder probably knows about modification and experiments, she could easily figure out that the werewolves were getting sacrificed since they would require data for werewolves modifications and human data would not apply to them same goes for Kentas but they were a blind eye to it until they saw Garda.Rai and the others fought for Muzaka also took down Maduke and saved the remaining werewolves.He makes threats instead of showing gratitude ,there was no reason to save this ungrateful fool and we are right where we were before this arc except -2 elders.They really could have improved Muzaka's character but they just screwed with it.

    This may seem like a rant but this chapter really got on my nerves.
     
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    I think Muzaka's stupidity is beyond repair, but if we're talking about consistency, he has been a consistent (and stubborn) idiot for quite a while. During this last arc he was saving the werewolves he liked and killing the ones that disagreed with him or to the ones to whom he held grudges (like Zaiga), he was very partial even when he was a lord, it shouldn't be any different wth humans he hated for centuries(on his mind, of course).

    I believe this personality is mostly to constrats with Raizel's, since Raizel kille his own bloodline, his brother for disonoring the rules, he can't simply agree that raizel is the most reasonable one and is doing his job fairly differently from his distorted sense of justice that saves the ones he likes and kills the ones he dislikes withouth consideration for rules at all.
     
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    Lunark of course had an idea but she didn't have many options either. Meduke was in control and Kentas objecting to him instantly landed him in the lab. She went looking for Muzaka because she now was aware of him being still alive plus he let them go. If kentas hadn't gotten in trouble she might have kept her mouth shut. But since Muzaka let them go, and care for Garda she used her being prisoner to get Muzaka to help Kentas. . Kentas was more naive.
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    You have a point there. I didn't think of it that way, since Zaiga or the likes would have killed him back if they could. So it seemed to me that he dealt with him in typical werewolf manner- kill your enemies and keep friends around. He went in only to save Garda. But yea I agree with what you said. His sense of justice is distorted as well as his sense of decency. He wants to kill humans so comes and spends time with them to get to know them. Yea right. The humans who were sent to kill Ashlyn had more hesitation when they learned they were sent to kill a child. It was Raskeria who even thought about helping other werewolves and first thing he does is to tell them he wants to attack noblesse and his friends.

    No wonder Frankenstein never liked him despite him being friendly to Rai.
     
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    This is again proof how incapable the old lord was. I mean he is the one who wanted Rai and Muzaka to befriend each other the most. He also should have known how dumb Muzaka is. So why did he wish for Muzaka and Rai being friends? Did he want Rai to again live through a nightmre by having to kill the closest person to him?
     
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