sl^sh3r attempts Cleaning Basics #001

[sl^sh3r]

Well my finals are finally over so I'm back to cleaning again.

After a lot of work, and learning that I suck at re-drawing, here's my attempt at Cleaning Basics 001 :-
I had to increase the size of the border of panel 4 to align it with the first three panels......so should I have done that?



Thanks a lot for your comments!

(on a side note, I started noticing that Null's One Piece scans don't have perfect borders.......I guess all this cleaning is going to my head lol, especially since I started noticing mistakes in Null's work..... nonetheless, they are the best, most dedicated OP Edited Manga group out there )

 

[Fnuckale]

Over leveled? the lines are really grungy and the white lines are too. The last frame is not alligned with the others, vertically. The last frame on the second row has a border on it's left for some reason. The border on the last frame of the first row is thicker too. Some dust left in the blacks (for example chouji's spiral)..

The border on frame 4 could have been kept in the normal size, all you had to do is redraw here and there a bit, or make all the other frames of that row 2px smaller on top and 1px smaller on bottom.

 

[sl^sh3r]

its still over-leveled?
I used 245 whites and around 60 blacks as you said, but I guess I'll have to reduce that then...

 

[Fnuckale]

Hmm, can you upload the raw for this one as well so I can recheck that?

 

[ttxdragon]

hf fnuck:
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/3650/335011bi5.jpg

was in the challenge thread

 

[Fnuckale]

Wow, I must be really sick if I couldn't find it there :O[br]Posted on: January 29, 2007, 01:05:56 PM_________________________________________________Okay so I compared your clean and the raw leveled like I suggested, and on some places you over-leveled while some are leveled like I suggested. The last frame for example is over-leveled.

 

[sl^sh3r]

ahh well that's cause I separately leveled the background because it was too light without another level IMO....guess I won't do that next time.....

 

[Fnuckale]

Hmm, you can try redrawing part of it, instead of leveling it seperately. Don't forget the lines on the back were normally thinner so it's only natural they look brighter.

 

[Allashandra]

In addition to what Fnuckle has pointed out here are some additional things that could be improved.

First some of your blacks and many of your white detail lines seem to be a bit jagged. Are you using anti-alias when you draw/paint/fill?

Borders: for the most part you did a good job on these. on panel 4 should be 2px as well.. I made a blue line where I would have not had the border if I was doing this. Also in panel 7 you had a small 1px border on the left side that shouldn't be there.

Blacks: Once you have the rough fill you should zoom into around 400% and make sure to get the extra dirt near line edges. If you aren't seeing these little specks then you might need to adjust the brightness on your monitor.

White detail lines: You missed a few white detail lines. Panels 6, 7, & 8.

Red boxes are for blacks that need work and blue boxes are for white detail lines in the following image.

 

[sl^sh3r]

thanks a lot for the pointers![br]Posted on: February 05, 2007, 09:16:10 AM_________________________________________________hey I've noticed something.
When I clean pages, if I use a blur effect on the page, all the jaggy edges etc. vanish, and the page looks better but has that blurred look which I don't really like.
(for example, Crello's clean lacks the jaggy edges but has that blurred look.....to see what I mean, open Crello's clean in a tab and mine on another, and just switch tabs. The difference should be obvious)

Do you guys know of any way to get rid of the jaggy edges instead of using the blur effect or redrawing ALL the edges?

 

[Vato Loco!]

Actually, if you look closely the majority of Crellos lines look like they were re-stroked. Including the ones that weren't blurred.

There really isn't any easy way to do it, you just have to go and re-stroke them with the pen tool.

 

[sl^sh3r]

^^
aww man, and I just happen to suck at re-drawing (or drawing for that matter)

(which should be obvious by the shitty redrawn white lines in my clean......)

 

[Vato Loco!]

^^
aww man, and I just happen to suck at re-drawing (or drawing for that matter)

(which should be obvious by the shitty redrawn white lines in my clean......)

Well, for that I suggest getting acquainted with the pen tool, it's awesome for re-drawing.