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[LightReaper]

Translation thanks to skywalker6705:

Smoker: Marines are marines.. The Navy is an organization like this.
Smoker: What we Marines need right now is Blood.
Smoker: We need a group stronger than the Strawhats
Tashigi: Yes..
Smoker: I bet my pride that I will crush them in "The New World"!

Bolded the important part

With the latest chapter we got to see the awesome Smoker back in the scene with some funky new clothes, but the biggest revelation was that he seems to be a man possessed when it comes to Luffy. In fact you can take his current words to mean that he wants to create his own bizzaro strawhat crew to take down the Strawhats.

People have stated that there is a mistranslation and it is not blood, it is power; perhaps in reference to Smoker's planned promotion. This could be integral in swinging some fellow marines into his ranks to hunt down our favourite pirates; this thread exists do discuss the conversation between Smoker and Tashigi, and possible crew members to follow Smoker.

 

[mugen]

Re: Smoker's Words (Chapter 439)

yeah but really have we seen a marine crew? no...
so i doubt it. I mean he probably just meant that the marines need more people but not that Smoker should gather a crew. Anyways Smoker is captain so what could his promotion be? Vice Admiral seems the most likely..

 

[Hermie]

Re: Smoker's Words (Chapter 439)

I asked WinterLion to verify this, and what he says is neither blood nor power, but "rank"... So he's saying he needs to take the promotion so that he can be transfered to the New World and fight the Straw Hats...

WinterLion says:
Smoker: Marines are Marines... As long as the Navy remains an "organization," there's a limit to what selfishness can be pushed through as a "Captain"... What we need now is "Rank." With the incident at Enies Lobby, all the pirates of the world are keeping an eye on the "Straw Hat group"
WinterLion says:
Tashigi: Yes...
WinterLion says:
Smoker: I swear on my pride that I'll crush them... in "New World."

Looking at Stephens Marine hiearchy chart, taken from an SBS, that would mean a promotion to either Commodore, rear Admiral or possibly even Vice-Admiral?

 

[mugen]

Re: Smoker's Words (Chapter 439)

I asked WinterLion to verify this, and what he says is neither blood nor power, but "rank"... So he's saying he needs to take the promotion so that he can be transfered to the New World and fight the Straw Hats...


Looking at Stephens Marine hiearchy chart, taken from an SBS, that would mean a promotion to either Commodore, rear Admiral or possibly even Vice-Admiral?

thanks for clearing that up
you're my hero

 

[Hermie]

Re: Smoker's Words (Chapter 439)

No need to thank me, WL was the one doing the translation. ^^;

 

[mugen]

Re: Smoker's Words (Chapter 439)

yeah you know that i added it in the 439 download thread
Is it cool?
next time i'll ask though

 

[Mugiwara_no_Jack]

Re: Smoker's Words (Chapter 439)

Guess Smoker just want a higher rank to get more stronger people which he can controll to have better chances to catch the SH.

So it's the same you already mentioned

 

[venicia777]

Re: Smoker's Words (Chapter 439)

Now, you see why i also say that Smoker-Luffy and Tashigi-Zoro will eventually meet.

i just didnt expect Smoker to actually make it his ultimate mission (or is it). Who is with me that by that time Luffy would have known how to counteract his devil Fruits ability.

 

[Efreet]

Re: Smoker's Words (Chapter 439)

Smoker said something like The Marines need a stronger army or something like that right? or did he say he wanted to catch the sh himself?

 

[Hermie]

Re: Smoker's Words (Chapter 439)

What he says is that since he is only a captain, he doesn't get that much to say about who he goes after, so he decides to accept the promotion, because that will allow him to follow the SHs.

 

[Absolutio]

Re: Smoker's Words (Chapter 439)

But I wonder how can rubber defeat smoke.. Crocodile had his weakness (which was water) that Luffy used to defeat him, but what could be smoker's weakness? O_o

 

[WinterLion]

Re: Smoker's Words (Chapter 439)

What he says is that since he is only a captain, he doesn't get that much to say about who he goes after, so he decides to accept the promotion, because that will allow him to follow the SHs.

Just a quick note... I transed the whole chapter, and Smoker was called a "Commodore" (I checked online dic + the Marine Hierarchy for this) a few frames before that exchange. If you want the full trans you can find it in the weekly trans board. ^^

 

[JoJoJO]

Re: Smoker's Words (Chapter 439)

I just wonder if Smoker his going to get a new crew since he his accepting his promotion.

 

[Mugiwara_no_Jack]

Re: Smoker's Words (Chapter 439)

I think he'll get a lot of powerful subordinates.
The ones he had in Loguetown or Alabasta weren't strong.
(I think about more marines with special abilities like DF user, swordsman, martial arts specialist and so on)

Only Tashigi remains

 

[jeffhmwong]

Re: Smoker's Words (Chapter 439)

I think smoker will finally show his full potential the next time he encounter the SH.

About stiring up a new team, I think quite unlikely.

Btw...U guys notice how hot tagishi has became? woot

 

[Efreet]

Re: Smoker's Words (Chapter 439)

Aokiji still hasn't told Luffy what Smoker's message was..

 

[neild]

Re: Smoker's Words (Chapter 439)

if anyone play one piece grand adventure, there is a storyline of smoker where he travels around the world by (mark my word) RECRUITING crews.and i do have playerd, the crews are, crocodile, mihawk, and zeff.is this the kinda crew he will bring to the manga?unlikely but, by saying those things in chapter 439 means that oda can threw new character of marines as much as possible

But I wonder how can rubber defeat smoke.. Crocodile had his weakness (which was water) that Luffy used to defeat him, but what could be smoker's weakness? O_o

i have thought about ur question when the character shows up.i think we have to put smoker in a glass, when he transforms into smoke.so he cant escape,or use kairoseki
o yeah and tashigi is hot

 

[Efreet]

Re: Smoker's Words (Chapter 439)

i think Smoker's weakness would have to trapping him in a balloon and then tying him up.... no, i guess capturing him in a glass would seem the most logical thus far

 

[jeffhmwong]

Re: Smoker's Words (Chapter 439)

I think smokers weakness is water. Smoke will dissolve in water. SO by jes splashing him with a bucket of water, he will weaken.

Take note, I said water, not seawater.

 

[Absolutio]

Re: Smoker's Words (Chapter 439)

I think smokers weakness is water. Smoke will dissolve in water. SO by jes splashing him with a bucket of water, he will weaken.

Take note, I said water, not seawater.

Maybe so. When Ace fought against Smoker I think he kinda knew his weakness, or generally the effects of smoke, so he knew a fire-smoke fight would be resultless..
So maybe it is water, the opposite of fire.. or wind? casts away smoke.. :P I dunno..