Team Spriggan 5 vs The Dragon Eaters

Who Wins?

  • Spriggan 5

    Votes: 20 66.7%
  • Dragon Eaters

    Votes: 10 33.3%
  • Spriggan 5

    Votes: 21 70.0%
  • Dragon Eaters

    Votes: 9 30.0%

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Not really. Maye we're reaching the point where characters are at least reaching near human Acno?
That's a bit of a stretch to me personally, all characters in x792 were one-shot material against even a casual Human Acno, I'm doubtful that that main cast can go from getting casually gutted before they could comprehend what happened to being close to his power within just a year.

If Suzaku wanted to kill Erza, he would've. Even if you think he can't kill with one blow, the second blow would've, and it's easily doable with his speed, who's gonna stop him? He simply wanted to put them down for avenging the trio's losses, not kill them.
Agree here, Suzaku could have easily killed Natsu and Erza if he wanted to, but, if Selene isn't lying nor pretending (about her gut wound being significant) that means that Suzaku could do it to any full powered Human Dragon God if they let their guard down enough.

As for this fight, yeah, Suzaku solos. I wasn't expecting him to be this strong when I made the thread originally.
 

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Again, Erza was not at top game at the time, if she was at full power, it would be a different story. Even Erza reacted to his speed in a not peak condition. Even Irene could react and even push back Acnologia.
 

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That's a bit of a stretch to me personally, all characters in x792 were one-shot material against even a casual Human Acno, I'm doubtful that that main cast can go from getting casually gutted before they could comprehend what happened to being close to his power within just a year.
Why is it a stretch? Generally I would've agreed with you, but this is FT. Power creeps are insane and massive.
x791 good guys were one shot material for casual Serena. While x792 good guys can give him a fight, with DF Natsu and Gildarts above his level.

The spinoff is about 5 Acno tiers.
And Diablos is a guild of DS. If they aren't even slightly a threat to DGs, then there is no point to their existence in the spinoff

Also, by the very nature of the spinoff, at least some characters SHOULD reach that level, eventually. It is a necessity for the progression of the series. Or else how do you take down these DGs, if you can't even compete against their human form? You can't expect the other 3 DGs to be retards like Aldoron and nerf themselves into oblivion for them to be manageable for Natsu
Power creep will and should happen, irrespective of whether Suzaku is at that level. Which is why I call for a timeskip of a couple of years

but, if Selene isn't lying nor pretending (about her gut wound being significant) that means that Suzaku could do it to any full powered Human Dragon God if they let their guard down enough.
Yes he would be able to do that regardless of the truth about Selene's statement.

Let's assume she jobbed. Then that attack should effectively to be considered an off guard attack. In which case, an off guard attack from Suzaku can deal good damage to DGs in human form

If we are to believe her words and assume she didn't job, then that means he's simply >= human Selene. In this case it's a given that he can do that much damage to an off-guard human DG tier, considering he did it to a human Selene who wasn't off guard

Worst case and best case scenario suggests he can do that. So what's the confusion?
 

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Pointing out that Erza was tired only proves Suzaku is stronger lol. Erza got tired fighting someone that wouldn't even be good warm-up for Suzaku. The fact that Suzaku wasn't tired from oneshotting Natsu tells us that he's above Erza, who gets tired fighting Youko.

Btw, Suzaku tanked Selene's beating and walked himself home. Unlike Natsu and Erza, who needed Wendy's healing to get back up. So like... He straight up outperformed them in durability and endurance too.
 

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That only shows that Erza was not given a fair fight against someone who was fresh, and she still reacted to him regardless, so give her a stronger stance and she takes him. Selene was not even at her strongest, no real comparison.
 

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still don't see how beating erza and natsu is a feat who put a characters stronger than august lol
august was shitting on gildarts who is much much stronger than both natsu & erza
 

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still don't see how beating erza and natsu is a feat who put a characters stronger than august lol
august was shitting on gildarts who is much much stronger than both natsu & erza
Yeah, and Hiro said that he can’t put Gildarts in the manga because he is to quote “too strong for the setting”.
 

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Spriggans extreme-diffs 1st round because of Suzaku and no-diffs 2nd.
 

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still don't see how beating erza and natsu is a feat who put a characters stronger than august lol
august was shitting on gildarts who is much much stronger than both natsu & erza
Because a combo of Natsu and Erza would destroy Irene or August.

Gildarts isn't stronger than Natsu and Erza combined.
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That only shows that Erza was not given a fair fight against someone who was fresh, and she still reacted to him regardless, so give her a stronger stance and she takes him. Selene was not even at her strongest, no real comparison.
Lol, Erza was given just as fair of fights as Suzaku was.
  • Erza only had to fight Youko before fighting Suzaku.
  • Suzaku had to fight both Natsu and Erza before fighting Selene.
The only reason you can make the argument that "Erza wasn't fresh" is because Erza is too weak to beat Youko with no injuries. Suzaku is strong enough to stomp all 3 moonlight goddess without breaking a sweat. Imagine if 2 professional boxers had a fight and the loser goes on to make excuses about how a 14 year old kid beat him up in the locker room before the fight. Embarrassing.

Doesn't matter, Selene straight up said that he was stronger than her human form.
 

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You mean Suzaku who was fresh against human Selene And took on no fresh Erza and Natsu? Yeah pretty fair. Erza had injuries, don’t know what you mean by that, and yeah her human form healed? If Suzaku was stronger, he should have been able to put up some sort of a fight against Selene in DF instead of cowering
 

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You mean Suzaku who was fresh against human Selene And took on no fresh Erza and Natsu? Yeah pretty fair. Erza had injuries, don’t know what you mean by that, and yeah her human form healed? If Suzaku was stronger, he should have been able to put up some sort of a fight against Selene in DF instead of cowering
The fact that Suzaku was fresh after beating Erza and Natsu speaks volumes about much stronger he is to Erza.
 

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Which even when not fresh she could still react to him, so she would be much stronger when in proper condition
 

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still don't see how beating erza and natsu is a feat who put a characters stronger than august lol
august was shitting on gildarts who is much much stronger than both natsu & erza
Cause current Erza is x792 Gildarts tier in all likelihood, if not higher, due to powercreep. By your logic Serena is Bluenote tier cause apparently characters don't grow 🤡
Neither August nor Eileen can even one shot x792 Erza or Natsu within seconds, let alone one shot them back to back within a span of a few seconds. Suzaku did it to x793 Erza and Natsu who're >>> their x792 selves.

August shitting on Gildarts is a direct result of his copy magic. Ignoring context, are we? Not surprised at all.
Gildarts was strong enough to give August a mid-high diff battle if we're looking at pure stats. It was August's hax that allowed him to no diff Gildarts.

And why are we scaling human Eileen to August? It is dragon Eileen who is August tier.
August >> human Eileen, she would be able to do literally nothing against him, he'd just copy everything she does and use it against her, along with countless other magic he's copied. She would in fact perform worse against August than Gildarts did, since her physical stats are below him.

x792 Erza alone was going back & forth against human Eileen, without Wendy. x792 Gildarts > human Eileen.



Spriggans extreme-diffs 1st round because of Suzaku and no-diffs 2nd.
Suzaku solos the entire group.

Explain how Spriggans "no diff" Diabolos 2nd round
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Lol, Erza was given just as fair of fights as Suzaku was.
  • Erza only had to fight Youko before fighting Suzaku.
  • Suzaku had to fight both Natsu and Erza before fighting Selene.
The only reason you can make the argument that "Erza wasn't fresh" is because Erza is too weak to beat Youko with no injuries. Suzaku is strong enough to stomp all 3 moonlight goddess without breaking a sweat. Imagine if 2 professional boxers had a fight and the loser goes on to make excuses about how a 14 year old kid beat him up in the locker room before the fight. Embarrassing.

Doesn't matter, Selene straight up said that he was stronger than her human form.
It's funny how they ignore the fact that Erza was far more injured and tired starting off against Eileen.

Before Suzaku: she faced Youko for like 5 mins.

Before Eileen: she was battling two days straight, nearly got killed twice against Ajeel and Neinhart, got slashed up by Berserk soldiers, and got both her arms charred/cracked.

"But Erza was more tired against Suzaku" 🤡🌏

Insane double standards.
 

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And yet it was Irene that delivered those wounds to begin with before their fight, which was not heavy to begin with, she had time to rest before the big battle and even majority of her wounds that she received where healed, and her hands were not that sever, stop trying to make it out to be something bad.
 
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