Okay, Sting's magic is light based magic, yes. But, that doesn't automatically make him as fast or faster than light, he could barely go into his shadow, how do you expect him to do something as advanced and complex as turning into light? And, how does one blitz someone just because they're a Dragon Slayer? I am completely unaware that Dragon Slayer magic suddenly makes you faster when you're fighting a Dragon. Can someone give me a scan of this phenomenon?
Blitz Sting before he turns into a Dragon? He's not a Slayer turned Dragon and never will be. And, Erza didn't blitz Irene because of Dragon Slayer Magic, Erza blitz'd Irene because the plot required Irene to be stupid and take the hit, she could have easily moved, but instead stayed stationary, that's CIS, that has nothing to do with Erza's speed. Irene could have easily smacked Erza out of the sky, she had more than enough time to do so.
Even if he didn't blitz Erza, he cut through her sword and her with ease, that alone warrants heavy praise for his power.
sting is actually ftl since he was blitzing larcade over and over again lol also how could he barely go into his shaodw? he literally went into his shadow during his fight with larcade lol
wow your using plot saying irene could have moved? ok selene could have moved but she didn't because of plot, she could have moved when suzaku cut her cheeks but she didn't cause of plot, i guess suzakus fight is garbage now because it has to many plot scenes
not even impressive, hes still not outrunning stings light roar
sting is actually ftl since he was blitzing larcade over and over again lol also how could he barely go into his shaodw? he literally went into his shadow during his fight with larcade lol
Sting never blitz'd Larcade, he was just hitting him. Not to mention, Sting was getting his ass beat the entire fight until the end, he only won because of Rogue and Kagura.
Sting didn't go into his shadow, Kagura used her gravity magic to literally push him into his shadow, had you been paying attention to the fight, you'd know that.
Yes, I'm using plot as the reason she didn't move, the plot literally decided to make Irene stupid for not moving or smacking Erza out of the sky despite her having plenty of time to do so. If you take plot from Erza's side, then she gets slapped out of the sky, never mind that, take plot from Erza and she gets stomped from beginning to end, that entire fight was BS, Irene being out-enchanted by a 13 year old, Irene having a difficult time with Erza, she was the biggest jobber of the arc, she was hyped to the moon, her one downfall was fighting Erza, who is known to win impossible situations because plot says so.
Take Kyôka as an example, she robbed Erza of all of her senses and was getting stronger by the second, yet, Erza, completely senseless beat Kyôka.
ok selene could have moved but she didn't because of plot, she could have moved when suzaku cut her cheeks but she didn't cause of plot, i guess suzakus fight is garbage now because it has to many plot scenes
There is a difference between Selene and Irene, Irene didn't move or attack Erza because plot made her stupid, while Selene was playing with Suzaku the entire time, PIS was Irene's downfall, while sheer arrogance was Selene's downfall. Selene thought Suzaku was nothing more than trash and treated him as such, she didn't see the need to take him seriously and that screwed her over.
Because Selene at the very least is Tenrou Acno tier, cutting her down is leagues better than anything any Spriggan pulled off. One of my favorite characters is Dimaria, and I'll admit, she doesn't last a second against Suzaku, neither does Serena, or any Spriggan.
Sting never blitz'd Larcade, he was just hitting him. Not to mention, Sting was getting his ass beat the entire fight until the end, he only won because of Rogue and Kagura.
Sting didn't go into his shadow, Kagura used her gravity magic to literally push him into his shadow, had you been paying attention to the fight, you'd know that.
Yes, I'm using plot as the reason she didn't move, the plot literally decided to make Irene stupid for not moving or smacking Erza out of the sky despite her having plenty of time to do so. If you take plot from Erza's side, then she gets slapped out of the sky, never mind that, take plot from Erza and she gets stomped from beginning to end, that entire fight was BS, Irene being out-enchanted by a 13 year old, Irene having a difficult time with Erza, she was the biggest jobber of the arc, she was hyped to the moon, her one downfall was fighting Erza, who is known to win impossible situations because plot says so.
Take Kyôka as an example, she robbed Erza of all of her senses and was getting stronger by the second, yet, Erza, completely senseless beat Kyôka.
There is a difference between Selene and Irene, Irene didn't move or attack Erza because plot made her stupid, while Selene was playing with Suzaku the entire time, PIS was Irene's downfall, while sheer arrogance was Selene's downfall. Selene thought Suzaku was nothing more than trash and treated him as such, she didn't see the need to take him seriously and that screwed her over.
Because Selene at the very least is Tenrou Acno tier, cutting her down is leagues better than anything any Spriggan pulled off. One of my favorite characters is Dimaria, and I'll admit, she doesn't last a second against Suzaku, neither does Serena, or any Spriggan.
But Eileen didn't move because she didn't think Erza could cut her, and wanted to prove the point was stranding her ground. By the time she realized Wendy enchanted ds magic to her sword, it was too late. No need to attribute it to CIS.
Selene was serious against Suzaku. You could see that she had a bone to pick with him ever since he mentioned Kurnugi, her powering up to change climate etc.
I think Selene just wanted to take Suzaku out slowly for eating Kurnugi, instead of finishing him off fast by using her strongest spells. That was her downfall.
Selene's on Acno tier in terms of stats. Selene is straight up above Aldoron and Mercphobia, who are also better than Irene. Btw Irene has no immunity either.
Because it's a terrible excuse. Erza was injured because she fought Youko. Imagine if the situation was reversed. Suzaku would just oneshot Youko, and be done with it. Now imagine if Erza had to fight herself, and then Natsu, and then Selene. It's not even close.
Irene on Acno tier in terms of stats. Selene is straight up above Aldoron and Mercphobia, who are also better than Irene. Btw Irene has no immunity either.
Because it's a terrible excuse. Erza was injured because she fought Youko. Imagine if the situation was reversed. Suzaku would just oneshot Youko, and be done with it. Now imagine if Erza had to fight herself, and then Natsu, and then Selene. It's not even close.
Also, Erza was more injured (or at least as much injured) during the start of her fight with Eileen. That should be no excuse.
If this tarnishes Suzaku's one shot of Erza in any way (it shouldn't), it should tarnish Eileen even more lmao
But Eileen didn't move because she didn't think Erza could cut her, and wanted to prove the point was stranding her ground. By the time she realized Wendy enchanted ds magic to her sword, it was too late. No need to attribute it to CIS.
But to be fair, how Irene was portrayed before (being praised by Acnologia and genuinely surprising and impressing him is all the hype she needed to portray her as a very serious threat), it is completely ridiculous on how she was treated in the Erza fight, Erza, who was being mid diffed by Ajeel, then overwhelmed by a Historia of God Serena (he was damn strong as a Historia, but that's besides the point) managed to one-shot Irene out of her Dragon Form, Erza, who had nearly every bone in her body broken by one strike by a less than casual Irene, not only that, but was already weakened before the fight even began.
If we go by that Erza fight alone, then we could go with the argument that Irene wouldn't be able to handle a spam festival from a 100% God Serena, which is obviously not true, realistically he gets stomped, and hilariously stomped at that. That's why I said, her one downfall was fighting Erza, had she fought anyone else, it would have been a completely different story.
That's the problem with that fight, we can all agree that a broken and nerfed Erza should realistically get stomped harder than the Four Gods of Ishgar by a casual God Serena, who in turn should get stomped just as hard as he stomped the Four Gods of Ishgar by Irene.
There is nothing to put Irene on Acno level lol. She couldn’t do anything against him at all, even being prepared for his arrival her only viable option was to BFR him. An things wouldn’t go any differently if she faced against Selene. Suzaku’s successful attack actively places him superior to her and August. Even if you ignore the elemental advantage he had against Larcade, and put Sting on their level when maxed out, he wouldn’t be strong enough to beat Suzaku.
There is nothing to put Irene on Acno level lol. She couldn’t do anything against him at all, even being prepared for his arrival her only viable option was to BFR him. An things wouldn’t go any differently if she faced against Selene. Suzaku’s successful attack actively places him superior to her and August. Even if you ignore the elemental advantage he had against Larcade, and put Sting on their level when maxed out, he wouldn’t be strong enough to beat Suzaku.
But to be fair, how Irene was portrayed before (being praised by Acnologia and genuinely surprising and impressing him is all the hype she needed to portray her as a very serious threat), it is completely ridiculous on how she was treated in the Erza fight, Erza, who was being mid diffed by Ajeel, then overwhelmed by a Historia of God Serena (he was damn strong as a Historia, but that's besides the point) managed to one-shot Irene out of her Dragon Form, Erza, who had nearly every bone in her body broken by one strike by a less than casual Irene, not only that, but was already weakened before the fight even began.
If we go by that Erza fight alone, then we could go with the argument that Irene wouldn't be able to handle a spam festival from a 100% God Serena, which is obviously not true, realistically he gets stomped, and hilariously stomped at that. That's why I said, her one downfall was fighting Erza, had she fought anyone else, it would have been a completely different story.
Praised by a playful Acno who was bored and wanted to pass some time. We all know she gets one shot if Acno was serious.
Also, he was surprised by a magic he didn't know before (U1), not by her power level. Why would he, when she's one shot material for him?
Erza was mid diff'd by Ajeel because she has no AOE. Same case for Neinhart.
Erza is strong in 1v1, but struggles against numbers and opponents who mandate AOE, like Ajeel and Neinhart. Like, the three Historia by Neinhart gets wiped in a massive AOE attack by people like Natsu, Laxus etc. But they managed to convincingly defeat Erza, because she's all physical with no AOE. Ajeel probably loses high extreme diff against (non darkness) Gray as well, because he has the AOE to deal with him. Yet Gray < Erza
We saw it even vs Youko, Youko had multiple arms, which wouldn't matter against AOE mages like Natsu, but it did matter against Erza, who needed to match and up Youko with her own multi arm requip.
Spriggans simply were overhyped. 5 or 6 out of them got no diff'd the moment their hax got countered.
Human Eileen was almost matched in combat by non POF Erza. Simply because Erza shines in 1v1, in general. I see no problem with human Eileen being x792 Erza tier. or x792 Laxus tier at max in combat stats. We had already seen many examples of Spriggans who were high MP and relatively bad stats.
Also, it's dragon Eileen who was <= August. August was literally named the strongest Spriggan after the entire Eileen fight, after dragon form and all was shown.
Human Eileen can literally do nothing against August, she would just be another Jellal or Gildarts to him. Her combat stats are convincingly below him, and her magic would simply get copied and nullified.
Only dragon Eileen has the stats to threaten August.
August ~ dragon Eileen. With August being the versatile arch mage, and Eileen being the physical beast.
If we go by that Erza fight alone, then we could go with the argument that Irene wouldn't be able to handle a spam festival from a 100% God Serena, which is obviously not true, realistically he gets stomped, and hilariously stomped at that. That's why I said, her one downfall was fighting Erza, had she fought anyone else, it would have been a completely different story.
Dragon Eileen? Sure. Human Eileen? Why not?
Human Eileen would only high-extreme diff Erza. I think that's reasonable, considering she has a dragon form which ups her stats high enough to no diff Erza
That's the problem with that fight, we can all agree that a broken and nerfed Erza should realistically get stomped harder than the Four Gods of Ishgar by a casual God Serena, who in turn should get stomped just as hard as he stomped the Four Gods of Ishgar by Irene.
By hype? Sure. Yea, Eileen in her full power (dragon form) should.
If her dragon form didn't exist, I would've agreed with you. Considering it does, nope
Edit:
wasn't talking about broken bones Erza. Just human Eileen vs Erza. Regarding broken bones Erza, that's a clear case of POF, and should be ignored as the nonsense it is, similar to Erza's finale against Kyouka.
The only relevant implication here is that a clean charged attack from Erza, with slayer advantage, can take down dragon Eileen.
Which is fair, a clean charged shot from DeS Gray could one shot Mard as well, the same Mard who could tank the entire assault from DF Natsu without taking any significant damage. Slayer advantage is simply that big of an equalizer in FT
That's the problem with that fight, we can all agree that a broken and nerfed Erza should realistically get stomped harder than the Four Gods of Ishgar by a casual God Serena, who in turn should get stomped just as hard as he stomped the Four Gods of Ishgar by Irene.
Also, here. I wasn't even talking about broken bones Erza.
Just the Erza who started fighting against human Eileen.
She was already almost killed twice and healed in 2 days, fought Berserk soldiers who also injured her, and had both her arms burned/cracked by partial END and darkness Gray.
Broken bones POF Erza is an entirely different story, which I agree is complete BS
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