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Re: Toriko by Shimabukuro Mitsutoshi

Ooh onemanga caved in!
and the latest chapter had a real hiroshi gamo looking moment with coco worrying about making the little whale things poisonous :O
 

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Re: Toriko by Shimabukuro Mitsutoshi

There's a discussion on 2ch that Toriko is taking ideas from Hunter X Hunter, that a lot of things are really similar.
Comparison:
http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlphp232003vw0.jpg

I'd like to hear if anyone else has an opinion on that.
And I'll try to translate chapter 19 soon. It goes off into a new arc, and has a lot of words.
 

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Re: Toriko by Shimabukuro Mitsutoshi

Hmm... the second page is the only one I buy, and it looks like a good ole proper tribute, far from stealing ideas :P But there may be more, and more convincing, examples of which I'm not aware. HxH is definitely a manga Toriko has a similar feel to, though, that I admit readily. But when you're dealing with a manga as amazing and influential as HxH, then of course that'll be the case.

I feel like the Japanese can go a bit overboard with these kinds of things. I remember when a few years back there was that controversy over Orange Range stealing music for their song Locolotion or whatever it was called and not crediting it; and while that one was perfectly fair, suddenly sites started popping up with huge lists of other bits of their songs that they stole from other places, and most of those were total bull. The Japanese plagiarism laws are just really strange, from what I've heard, so I tend to be wary about taking too much store in these accusations.
 

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Re: Toriko by Shimabukuro Mitsutoshi

kinda grabbing at mere similarities as opposed to anything concrete, it's pointless
 

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Re: Toriko by Shimabukuro Mitsutoshi

Cuz you know...that isn't a common pose in shonen or anything....>_>
 

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Re: Toriko by Shimabukuro Mitsutoshi

I guess DBZ is copying Fist of the North Star then.
 

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Re: Toriko by Shimabukuro Mitsutoshi

essentially every musclebound shonen is ripping off FotNS, so that's partially true :P

anyway, moving back onto Toriko, this last arc has been pretty good stuff, and shows how this satirical-under-the-skin action series can do decent scale scenes without ever feeling all that serious
 

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Yeah, it was a very solid arc. I'm looking forward to the one starting in this week's chapter - I've glanced at a few pages in Jump but don't want to spoil it entirely so I'm waiting until the translation comes out.
 

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Re: Toriko by Shimabukuro Mitsutoshi

just read chapter 18

the gourmet police sounds cool xD

nice chapter that one!
 

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Re: Toriko by Shimabukuro Mitsutoshi

I like Coco. His poison gun doesn't seem to be very flashy though. That makes it not look too powerful.
 

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Re: Toriko by Shimabukuro Mitsutoshi

chapter 19 was somewhat odd in the way it kinda jumped very quickly onwards, looking forward to seeing where it goes though xD
 

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Re: Toriko by Shimabukuro Mitsutoshi

19 has comitted a fuck up to me, the whole jump past the gourmet police's encounter with hairything(tm) is just a pain. i wanted to see that more than..... more exposition
 

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Re: Toriko by Shimabukuro Mitsutoshi

Spoil chapter 20 is Kewl make a summary ^^

グルメ研究所に到着するトリコ小松

研究所の内部は食品の大量生産工場みたいなもの

全世界の3割近くのグルメ食材は生産できるが研究用のものだとか

小松が見たことない食材もあると驚くが
広大な庭の中で常時品種改良が行われているので当然ですと黒メガネ
公には出来ない研究も行われているとトリコ

実験室(無菌室)へ行くことになり、
トリコと小松は全裸シャワーと衣服滅菌を受ける

実験室へ着くと見たこともない生き物ばかりで驚く小松

絶滅種の複製やグルメ動物同士の混合種といった、
殆どが現在野生に存在しない人工的な「新種」。

――――――通称「束縛された動物(チェインアニマル)」

゙グルメ研究゙という大義を掲げてはいるが
動物保護や倫理的な観点から
ここは 研究所の中でもトップシークレットとトリコ
そこに脱走したマッスルクラブが登場

フライパンチ!!!

マンサム登場

小松唖然ッ……!!

マンサムとトリコが談笑

マンサム「そうだ?久々にコロシアムを見てくかい トリコ?」と誘う

トリコ「…まだ んなことやってんよ」

マンサム「今日の試合は見物だぜ!!」

トリコ「誰がでるんだ?」

マンサム「バ ト ル ウ ル フ さ」

見開きのコロシアムで、
ガララワニvsトロルコングッ!!
 

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Re: Toriko by Shimabukuro Mitsutoshi

Hopefully this will make my translation of the whole thing easier...

Right, spoiler tags...

グルメ研究所に到着するトリコ小松
Toriko and Komatsu arrive at the Gourmet Research Establishment.

研究所の内部は食品の大量生産工場みたいなもの
Inside the Research Establishment is a foodstuffs mass production-looking
factory.

全世界の3割近くのグルメ食材は生産できるが研究用のものだとか
30% of the world's gourmet food ingredients are able to be produced here,
though they're used for study.

小松が見たことない食材もあると驚くが
There was food Komatsu hadn't seen before and he was astonished.
広大な庭の中で常時品種改良が行われているので当然ですと黒メガネ
In a huge garden ordinary selective breeding is done, naturally and dark
glasses. [What...]
公には出来ない研究も行われているとトリコ
Toriko can't officially study them.

実験室(無菌室)へ行くことになり、
They go to a laboratory (a sterilized room).
トリコと小松は全裸シャワーと衣服滅菌を受ける
Toriko and Komatsu take nude showers so their clothes can be sterilized.

実験室へ着くと見たこともない生き物ばかりで驚く小松
They arrive at the laboratory and Komatsu is surprised at the living things
he hadn't seen before.

絶滅種の複製やグルメ動物同士の混合種といった、
Things like reproducing extinct species and mixing gourmet animals takes
place.
殆どが現在野生に存在しない人工的な「新種」。
Mostly ones not growing wildly, artificial "new species"

??????通称「束縛された動物(チェインアニマル)」
-------Nickname "Restrained Animals (Chain Animal)"
[The word Chain Animal is in katakana, the first part is in japanese.]

゛グルメ研究゛という大義を掲げてはいるが
Carrying out "Gourmet Study" is a great cause.
動物保護や倫理的な観点から
Because of the animal protection and ethical point of view.
ここは 研究所の中でもトップシークレットとトリコ
Inside this research establishment is top secret, says Toriko.
そこに脱走したマッスルクラブが登場
Escaping there the Muscle Club appears.

フライパンチ!!!
Frypunch!!!

マンサム登場
Mansam appears.

小松唖然ッ!!
Komatsu is dumbfounded!!

マンサムとトリコが談笑
Mansam and Toriko have a friendly chat.

マンサム「そうだ?久々にコロシアムを見てくかい トリコ?」と誘う
Mansam: "Is that so? Have you seen the Coliseum in a long time, Toriko?"
he invites.

トリコ「まだ んなことやってんよ」
Toriko: "I haven't done that yet."

マンサム「今日の試合は見物だぜ!!」
Mansam: "Today's bout is something worth seeing!!"

トリコ「誰がでるんだ?」
Toriko: "Who's appearing?"

マンサム「バ ト ル ウ ル フ さ」
Mansam: "The Battle Wolf."

見開きのコロシアムで、
Two page spread of the Coliseum、
ガララワニvsトロルコングッ!!
Garara Alligator VS Troll Kong!!
 

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Re: Toriko by Shimabukuro Mitsutoshi

thanks Kewl, Toriko's World is crazy :D

Animal Fight, new specie, IGO is a sorcerer ;)
 

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Re: Toriko by Shimabukuro Mitsutoshi

Interesting news....Shuesha is releasing Toriko volumes 1 AND 2 next month. They really must be pushing this series. I hope it does well.
 

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Re: Toriko by Shimabukuro Mitsutoshi

It doesn't even have 20 chapters yet...
Well I guess the first chapter is long so it'll have less than 10 chapters each. But still it'd be almost all we're up to.
Though that'll be cool, maybe I'll buy them.
 

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They did this with SQs horror series 'shiki' so it's a good sign giving a double release to another series (Shiki sold relatively well with the release too)
 

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Re: Toriko by Shimabukuro Mitsutoshi

I think they were gonna do this with Arts and then when Toriko came out they just said screw it and canceled it. XD
 
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