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Chapter Tower of God Chapter 333 Discussion / 334 Predictions

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    Urek :hip.

    Beta is able to see the Invisible Observer and was unaffected by the Red Bari's Shinsso absorption. I know he is an artificial lifeform but isn't that a bit weird?

    I like how Hwa Ryun is dealing with Koon, I doubt any of his peers ever treated him like that :lmao.

    The Thorn itself is soulless there is nothing inside. The Blue Spirit appeared for the first time when Baam trained in the Rice Pot, but it talked to him before, IIRC the first time it did was during his first confrontation with Hoaqin. SIU said it's something which entered into Baam during his climb.

    And this must be why it's called a fake power, I am not exactly sure how to draw the line between the Spirit and Baam's powers but if he can do this much it's certainly because of Baam's potential in the first place. Maybe it is the power which was inserted into him when he joined FUG, the Lobster, source fo the exoskeleton, it might have grown as Baam got stronger. Beta said its power was God-like.
     
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    I feel like Baam is being set up to either become a Tower Administrator himself or simply being given power to kill Zahard... The possibilities keep on sprouting new ones this arc.
     
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    Do you think the medicine that was developed by FUG and stolen by Urek and used to separate the Red Bari from Hell Joe, was in reality developed to be used against Baam? (Why else would they develop it) Do you think FUG knows of this "administrator" within Baam?
     
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    They would have no reason to unless they are Karaka supporters. And Hell Joe's case is different from Baam's. I don't think it's possible to separate it from him like that.
     
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    I recall something of the sort being said during the workshop arc. The thorn being dead and all... But right now it's fused with bam so it's state should not be quite "dead".

    If it entered during the climb then it is by no means too different from the red thrysa hell joe has. Perhaps hell joe is what bam would have become had he taken a different route when it came to how he wanted to use his power during the rice pot training. However that would leave us with the question, why did a psedo admin thingy get into bam? Where did it even come from? The one within hell joe was the result of enryu killing the real administrator. And there are no other dead administrators that we know of. That thing would be a far bigger deal than we could have originally guessed....
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    Well, I had a similar idea some the other day. I basically called bullshit on fug conveniently having something like that drug and that it was most likely meant to serve some other purpose. And the only thing that came to mind is well, bam and his thorn. Overall I would argue this makes sense. And given the circumstances I am not sure of how the hell joe situation is different from bam's.
     
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    If FUG developed the medicine to use against Baam, it would be interesting to exploit it, I mean, they keep saying irregulars are unpredictable and can change the tower, in this sense, Urek would be doing a perfect job as an irregular foiling FUG's plans.

    The theory about a fake administrator entering Baam's body is also promising. Zahard has many contracts with administrators, but what if he closed the tower and did not wnat to go up because the administrators from the higher floors were unwilling to let him pass or establish any sort of contract? Could he be waiting for something (like stealing an administrator's power) to go up himself?
     
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    1) One major difference between Baam and the other irregulars is that He is still a Young person who looked/still looks very much like a kid at the begining of the Manwah while all other irregulars I know about were full grown adults when they entered the Tower. The other had had time to more fully develop and explore their powers before they entered the Tower.
    2) One wonders how an administrator came into being inside Baam. Was this done by Enryuu I wonder? Was it the administrator's life force that re-animated Baam after he was killed?
    3) About Urek. At the risk of ending the comedy of Ureks lack panache with women, will Garam now agree to go out with Urek now that she has said she'd start afresh with him? A crushing rejection from Garam now might be funny to see.
     
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    Well, if they developed that to use against bam then they are either after the thorn or after the admin like thing within bam. I am not entire sure of how much urek would be foiling FUG here though. FUG clearly has at least 2 factions and each approaches things differently. While urek's actions clearly hurt karaka and whoever agrees with him I would argue it is almost certain that his actions would greatly benefit the faction that supports bam. Heck, the implication here is that the shot was stolen from madoraco... Who is clearly affiliated with karaka's fug faction, at least evidenced by the workshop arc. Overall this is a fairly complex situation. FUG isn't a cohesive group united in methods. They share the bit about overthrowing zahard but as far as methods go they are borderline mortal enemies.

    For me the weirdest bit about the administrator like thing within bam is that it must have come from somewhere.... However as far as we know there is nowhere it could have come from. The red thrysa was the result of an administrator dying after all. Basically, with the history we know it is fairly clear there shouldn't be an admin like thing similar to the red thrysa around simply because as far as we know all other floor administrators are accounted for. Bam having that specifically implies something somewhere happened to an administrator. Which is a huge deal. Which I would argue almost means this hints at SIU lying to us regarding some detail he has shared just as it was a lie that zahard had 10 companions.

    Crackpot theory: This relates to the 134th or 135th floor guardian. Realistically speaking those should be the floors which people in general are least familiar with. It probably has its own population and whatnot however only rankers should be relatively familiar with what goes on there. My theory is that zahard and his companions got to the last floor and did something to the guardian. I don't know what it could be because the floors clearly are not dead like the 43rd floor though... It's weird that zahard would arbitrarily stop climbing the tower and that there would even be a key to the next floor since, well, keys aren't a thing in the other floors. Perhaps zahard stole a part of an administrators power and the bit that escaped made it to bam....
     
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    Before talking about the differences I see between Baam and Joe I will say that I believe that at least all Irregulars have something similar inside them. They go to the Rice Pot and either find their true self or not, if they don't they get corrupted. The power of the soul inside them depends on their potential and special abilities, like Zanpakuto in Bleach.

    Now the differences:

    What is inside Baam is a soul, Hell Joe's case is different, the Red Bari is a part of the Guardian, it has a physical body, Hell Joe took the Shinheuh and fused with it these two need each others for certain things while Baam is independent and was using that power without even being aware of it. The way I see it , the liquid in the syringe was made to separate their bodies, I don't think it can work on Baam because he is not really one with that soul. And assuming the power he was using was part of his true self, it should be impossible to take it.


    @kkck About the Thorn hosting nothing, SIU is the one who confirmed it. It can't talk because there is nothing in it. We have no confirmation but I think it must be the case for all Living Ignition Weapons. They use their own souls as recipient, and we also know Baam has yet to fully accept it. That's why it's floating in the air.
     
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    WithYouInSpirit, How did you get your account approved.... I cant find them on discord
     
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    I can't access this anymore. I get a message saying I am using a shared account or something... Is there anywhere else I can read this?
     
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    http://www.webtoons.com/en/fantasy/tower-of-god/season-2-ep-253/viewer?title_no=95&episode_no=334
    It's out!

    I was wondering why Joe was draw so much differently in the present than in flashbacks which now makes sense. SIU seems to be really fond of people bonding with other entities to gain power: Koon's Enna Core, Baam + souls, Yuri + 13 months, Joe + Red Thryssa. Now that Joe has been "defeated" I wonder what will happen to the configuration of the Floor of Death. If redhead gets the soul stirring ladle Dee Lee and De Sah won't be able to keep the souls restricted and whatnot. I like what SIU has done with this arc even though it was a little disappointing to find out that Joe was being controlled for the most part. Reminds of Naruto giving into the Kyuubi's power when he fought pain. I suppose Urek would be the 4th in this situation :XD
     
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    Actually it reminds me of when Baam was tempted by the Power. I wonder if the Power inside Baam is the Power of the administrator and that Zahard gave in to it. It's appearance is blue, not red, but it looks kind of similar.
     
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    Is this the true power of Baam which sucked in that other power who wanted to give baam everything? i mean at first, the admin thought it was soul then he thought it was different. it has to be something deep inside him other than the power of the soul.
    It could also be V s contract with a guardian that didnt work for him but was passed to Baam or sth. I mean V didnt get the immortality did he?
     
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    I hope we get some type of explanation on the colossal soul the red thryssa mentioned. I wonder if Baam was granted power from one or more of the administrators when he was sealed off from the tower? I love this series but I am fuzzy on many details, were there administrators in the tower when Zahard and the family leaders climbed it for the first time? I assume there must have been so maybe Baams mother was able to seal her power or something inside him to hide him in that dungeon. I am rambling since it's 3am and I am tired lol
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    I wonder if Baam's power is directly related to the administrator that Enryu killed. Might make sense given the red thryssa's reaction to seeing it. It's probably a long shot
     
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    it could be how admins form, may be the tower was created by the gods outside not by beings inside and they created the admins with the soul of some beings. Baam was created by God of outside idk i d say ressurected is the best word. may be he was resurrected with the soul of outside thus being similar to admins.
    That might make sense for the messenger of God enryu to be so powerful
     
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    Today, here's a little taste of the Book 1 Cover... I've been working at it. Thanks to that work I'm going full steam all week haha. It's already June and season 2 is already at chapter 253. When I get better I may try to get some gossip on the most requested character. I always wanna do so much but I can't do them well ^^;

    This chapter... Poor Red Bary... Urek's indeed strong.

    Like I said last time, Urek's hard to show off full power, so I have to balance his power. "I wanna show so much, but I can only draw so much" I think that pretty often ^^; But I'm trying my best to draw it out well. This chapter was pretty big-scaled, so I had a bit of trouble.

    So the Red Bari... Hmm... Administrators... they indeed do have nearly godly powers in their floors but when their power is shattered and unable to completely control the Shinsoo in their domain, that power can become quite meaning less... Yeah... Red Bari had emotions which made it made it feel even more incomplete. A full Administrator in their floor is basically a god. It is rare that an administrator holds private grudges or expresses anger, with the exception of Headon. Being incomplete due to emotions... fits Hell Joe, doesn't it? Maybe, I'm not so sure.

    Well, the Red Bari will have secrets revealed next chapter... yeah... ^^ Next chapter will wrap a lot of the arc up. Probably going to focus on D'sa next. Will Rachel come to her senses after a nice session of acupuncture? What is Karaka and Hoaqin up to? Is Wangnan... napping? Find out next time in the Tower of God! There's still a lot of important events yet to happen hehe.

    These days, I worry a lot. I feel like I'm happy and living well but I feel sorry about my work. I'm not a talented artist, or a artist with gumption. So I wonder if I'm hurting my own work. Am I really doing a good job? I work hard, but am I approachable? The most important thing is the desire to make a fun work, but now that Tower of God is getting older, I'm having thoughts like "I want to let my kid succeed." I want good things to happen to my work... that kinda feeling? I didn't know how to explain that feeling, but now I can.

    Well, I shall work harder. My job above all else is to show you guys a good work. Above all else I think my work is still not something I'm satisfied with myself with. I feel sorry to you guys often.

    Well, have a good week, have a happy week, don't just die on me because of the weather hehe. Have fun outside! Stay healthy, see you next week!

    Thank you.


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    If Rachel was more powerful would she be able to see that bee?:blink
    How did that soul ended up inside Baam? Was it within him before he ever entered the tower? Could it be the "god" Arlen asked to save her son? If she had some sort of accord with and administrator... Wagnam and Yura disappeared, I wonder just where Urek dropped that suitcase.
     
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    Probably. SIU has said that rankers eyes can be like observers with enough training. And we know higher ranked observers can see lesser ranked observers.

    Well, SIU said it got inside baam as he climbed the tower. So it's unlikely to be the god of the tower. More so, it's basically something like the red thrysa...Such a thing should not come from the outside where there is no shinsoo.
     
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    Please write a source for that extraordinary claim that whatever it is got inside Baam in the tower.

    Baam obviously came into the tower with whatever makes him him, so not everything that interacts with Shinsu has to come from within the tower.
     

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