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Can somebody tell me how y’all seen the chapter already
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I don't remember Hansung struggling against an advanced Ranker.Do you remember that YHS struggled against a advanced ranker .
Go to the 1st page of this chapter discussion thread or download the discord app. Every Sundays is a new raw of the chapter.Can somebody tell me how y’all seen the chapter already
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He also fought with one of the people in Charlie's group (I think it was the High Priestess, maybe?) and had a hard time getting past her.Hansung never struggled against an Advanced Ranker. The only fights we've ever saw was against Ha Cheonhee and Madoraco. With both he seemed to be about even in strength, actually stronger than Madoraco.
His battle was against Stuart. While it looked fairly even, it seems YHS got the better of him: "Allow me to borrow your lighthouse".He also fought with one of the people in Charlie's group (I think it was the High Priestess, maybe?) and had a hard time getting past her.
Agreed! In fact, this is partly why I thought at first that Charlie would unintentionally leak the three orders. The impact of such an order would give a tremendous boost to FUG, and could be used as a device to make Raviolic switch sides.I'm currently finishing up a reread of ToG and I am at the Last Station arc. The difference between reading the story in one go and experiencing it in weekly bites over the course of years is astounding. My interest in the series had lulled for a bit during the Hidden Station arc until the fight with Jahad came up, but I had somehow missed the connection between the Three Orders and Gustang's Stingray swallowing the key that Data Jahad wanted to give Baam. At that point, Stuart mentions that one of the reasons they need to suppress the order is because there are high-ranking Poe Bidau family members in the military and how it would unleash chaos upon the Tower etc.
Previously I mentioned that I felt Raviolic might be a traitor because it would be odd for Gustang to let a member of his Family be so highly ranked if he was intending on eventually betraying Jahad, but if I pause to reflect on that detail that I had previously missed, it makes sense that Raviolic is probably one of the people being referred to there.
Karakka also had some trouble with the mouse ranker. Sometimes people are weak (Didiano) but manage to be a trouble to strong people (Evankhell). Doesn't mean much.He also fought with one of the people in Charlie's group (I think it was the High Priestess, maybe?) and had a hard time getting past her.
Look again at the war with Kallavan .I don't remember Hansung struggling against an advanced Ranker.
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If i recall well , the guardian purposedly helped Evankhell and YHS help Baam and FUG , that is clearly anti-zahard .I feel like the 2F guardian did not oppose jahad but was rather doing his purpose. 2F is an important floor for the whole tower because thats where the regulars are sifted and those that pose a threat to the jahad empire are removed but that is not what the tower wanted regarding baam hence the guardian allowed YHS to go ahead with his plan because the tower wants the change that baam will bring. The tower has been shown to have a will of its own whose intentions may directly opposs the jahad empire, repellista jahads guide said the tower choses what it wants despite jahad agreeing with it or opposing it - it basically doesn't care what jahad wants or thinks. The tower chose baam and him being killed, he would not serve the purpose of him entering the tower. The 2F guardian sending evankhell to karakas heart and to the station was the 2F guardian being directed by the will of the tower to save baam so he can fulfill his purpose. The towers purpose is seemingly unquestioned as seen with the death of the 43F guardian because the guardians purpose is to follow the will of the tower but the 43F guardian became picky and allied with jahad instead of allying with the tower and tried to stop enryu from fulfilling his purpose of delivering the thorn, hence the tower allowed to have the 43F guardian removed/killed.
Maybe raviolic will become like gekko moria in one piece after the marineford arc and maschenny kills him by following orders from above like what doflamingo did.Previously I mentioned that I felt Raviolic might be a traitor because it would be odd for Gustang to let a member of his Family be so highly ranked if he was intending on eventually betraying Jahad, but if I pause to reflect on that detail that I had previously missed, it makes sense that Raviolic is probably one of the people being referred to there.
I somehow feel like this whole war is orchestrated by jahad so he can get into battle again like how the 5th army corps said that jahad and the 10GW want war all over again. I seriously feel like ravioli is there to size up baam and see if he's worthy to stand before jahad and report that to adori most probably or maybe send visual of baams appearance so that the jahad police can deal with baam IMO.Maybe Adori sent him to see what he'd do. Maschenny already said that the orders for the 10GFs to help out was made to see what they would end up doing in part, so this is a thought process that exists in Zahard's Machiavellian dialectic.
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There is no way maschenny coulf kill someone equal as squadron commander, u'll keep over to her, she is stong ofc, but like jinsung ha said "u dont know anything about those ancient beast u just mention"Maybe raviolic will become like gekko moria in one piece after the marineford arc and maschenny kills him by following orders from above like what doflamingo did.
I somehow feel like this whole war is orchestrated by jahad so he can get into battle again like how the 5th army corps said that jahad and the 10GW want war all over again. I seriously feel like ravioli is there to size up baam and see if he's worthy to stand before jahad and report that to adori most probably or maybe send visual of baams appearance so that the jahad police can deal with baam IMO.
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I see either khun hynd luch saving lepavuv or ravioli teleporting lepavuv into the 3rd wall and peaks evk interest and says something like fight me beyond the third wall if you're alive by then kinda vibes because she'll than get the chance of a fight she wanted against the monsters in the 10 families either way between hynd luch or ravioli
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Picture this:
As kallavan is about to attack baam, evk punches him so hard he's sent flying and crash lands on dowon and they both fall down
You forget about the guy from RED from the second floor. We actually saw "more" of that fight than the Madoraco thing. When Ren was about to get serious, Hansung backed down. But i don't know if Ren is a high Ranker or an advanced one.Hansung never struggled against an Advanced Ranker. The only fights we've ever saw was against Ha Cheonhee and Madoraco. With both he seemed to be about even in strength, actually stronger than Madoraco.
Who are you referring to? can't remember that ranker.Karakka also had some trouble with the mouse ranker.
I still sit on the fence about it, though, if Raivolic is really a traitor, either Adori is in a scheme with him or she is an idiot.
This one:You forget about the guy from RED from the second floor. We actually saw "more" of that fight than the Madoraco thing. When Ren was about to get serious, Hansung backed down. But i don't know if Ren is a high Ranker or an advanced one.
Why do you think that he was even with Cheonhee? I had the impression that there was a huge gap between the two. When he tried to stop her, it looked to me like he was stopped rather easily.
Why do you think that he was stronger than Madoraco?
Who are you referring to? can't remember that ranker.
On the contrary. I think this is a smart move. This isn't the final battle. The war just begins right now. If you have important people in the military and administration, it is essential to know where their loyalty lies. Better expose him now (if he really is a traitor), even if it costs this one battle, than later, in the middle of the war, where he (and others) could do real damage (victory deciding damage).
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That's precisely my point: one doesn't need strength, sometimes hardship comes from tricky skills that are hard to shake.Tbf, he was just a slippery bastard and not someone that punked Karaka by strength
Ravioli definitely knows all 3 orders. Kallavan even knows, he hinted at it when he was fighting Jinsung Ha.I can't imagine Ravioli, who was the right-hand man to Adori (lucky SOB), didn't/doesn't know the 3 orders in completion as it is said that Adori would certainly discover all 3 orders (they couldn't prevent it, and wished to move on what they thought was the easiest before she could do all 3, as they assuredly believe she will try to do). Are you suggesting she withheld from him? He seems like he'd be 'in the know'.
As such maybe he's a double agent, sure. Or maybe it's because he isn't full-blooded Po that he doesn't care as much as someone with an equal amount of Khun (also have hints Khun might not so much care for Zahard...) would - half-breed. We can suppose most if not all full-blooded PD's would be beholden to Gustang, but his half heritage makes me pause.
Maybe Adori sent him to see what he'd do. Maschenny already said that the orders for the 10GFs to help out was made to see what they would end up doing in part, so this is a thought process that exists in Zahard's Machiavellian dialectic.
That said, I don't trust Maschenny EITHER.
I'll just suspect everyone as a traitor so when inevitably someone goes against Z-forces I won't be surprised.
Well that is clear that he is a traitor tho, no matter about his position as long as he is a po bidau, the military will try to kill himRavioli definitely knows all 3 orders. Kallavan even knows, he hinted at it when he was fighting Jinsung Ha.