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@Demonspeed @Lady pompom please pin
Translated chapter(by Alpha scans)
 
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I will go further into my prediction: the thing inside the seal is another 13 month series. A LPB princess turned into a weapon. Mascheny's plan is all about "retrieving a 13 month from FUG and getting to keep it", becoming the first and only princess to hold 3 13 months at same time.
Did you mean PB (NOT LPB) princess?
 

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His figting feats are even better than Maschenny for now .
Cause Maschenny never fought seriously.


Ascencio may be top 100 , but right now , nothing indicated it . There are likely more powerful child working under Edhuan , or child as power as him .
Asensio's hype within the Khun Family is second only to Eduan:
  • He was one of only three children who passed through the Hidden Floor that Eduan acknowledged.
    • "Tons" of Khun children passed through the Hidden Floor in its several tens of thousands of years history.
    • The other two were "special Regulars".
      • Icardi was a Sorcerer whose ability even Zahard noted.
      • Maschenny was a Princess.
        • She became the only 13 Month Princess in the history of the Khun Family.
        • She became one of the most powerful 13 Month Princesses.
  • AA called him "the Spear Master".
  • Kiseia said that he formed his own faction within the Khun Family.


While also leaving us to wonder if through the months or years jinsung spent imprisoned zahard's army continued to give him cheap perms.
Maschenny clearly took very good care of him. She requested medical attention for him in the immediate aftermath of the Kallavan battle.

She bought him his favourite clothes.


I also don't think this is Maschenny's plan by Eduan's.
Do you mean "but Eduan's"?

There's zero indication that Maschenny is working with anyone else so far. She speaks of her actions, her desires, her motives, her expectations and her plans.

She may be working alongside Irregulars, but it seems really unlikely that she's working for them.



No idea. She was probably just banking on bam making it past the first wall. It doesn't seem like she had any plans to ensure bam would reach her. We don't know how big a priority it is for her for bam to get whatever is sealed within the suspendium or even jinsung ha in general.
Maschenny did seem to go out of her way to help Baam reach her:
  • She removed the Hybrider from Baam's map.
    • The Hybrider coincidentally ran into one of the Division Commanders chasing after Baam.
  • She sent Asensio to help Baam and his allies.
    • Asensio said that he came to help AA and Co.
    • Asensio said that he needed to send them to Maschenny.
    • Asensio showed up on Baam's field expecting to face White.
      • Maybe he was her plan to deal with anyone that was too strong for Baam to handle.

Making it through the 1st Wall under his own power might have been one of Maschenny's many tests for Baam. From the Second Wall onwards though, she went out of her way to assist him.


Maschenny doesn't even know what's inside the suspendium.
This was most like retconned. AA said that she seemed to have certitude about what was inside.

Pajaka said:
Khun: I don't know whether 'the thing hidden in this place' is a human or an object, but

If Baam says he heard a voice then there is a high possibility that this is related to the thing she mentioned.

Maschenny said she doesn't know exactly what it is, but it looked to me that she had some kind of a certitude.
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Cause Maschenny never fought seriously.





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I hope SIU lets us get a fight scene with Maschenny going all out.

BTW. We know that UREK has a thing for Garam, As a reader of Wuxia and Xianxia, I can just about imagine a Harem scene. Maschenny, Yuri, Garam.... Crazy!!

But in reality Yuri belongs to Bam.

If the voice Bam heard was Enne's thirteen month, and if Enne is trapped there with it, then the Ally that will rescue them from Traumeir could be Gustang, and ol Lulsec will / could play a support role. If this is true, things don't look too bad for the Gang get away.
 
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Gustang instantly healed Rachel when is speciality is not being a doctor .
Wrong. Gustang is the foremost expert of the science and medicine of the Tower. His specialty is being a doctor.


Even Traumerei recognize Yu Hansung, he must be famous...
Traumerei didn't recognise Hansung, he only reacted to the words that Hansung said.


I'm also wondering if the safest place for Maschenny at this point is as Baam's "prisoner"
Nope. Maschenny has way too much power and influence to abandon all of that to cavort with Baam:
  • Khun Family
    • She's the only 13 Month Princess in the history of the Khun Family.
    • She's Eduan's favourite child.
    • One of the Faction Leaders of the Family (Asensio) is wholly devoted to her.
  • Zahard Family
    • She's one of the most powerful 13 Month Princess.
    • She's one of the Top 100 High Rankers.
    • She's a very high ranking officer of the Army.
      • She's the Commander of the Nest Operation.
        • She was placed in charge of two current Corps Commanders and an ex Corps Commander.
      • She could command usage of Zahard's El Robina.
      • She led a massive fleet of dozens of ships to say hi to Jinsung.


The Lo Po Bia Family have no actual jurisdiction over Maschenny. They aren't going to kill her and risk total war with the Khun Family (I doubt the Zahard Family will take kindly to the death of a 13 Month Princess either).

At worst, they'll capture her alive, but only her fathers have any right to discipline her.

If Maschenny was captured alive, she would simply be sent back to the Zahard or Khun Family.

And Maschenny isn't betraying the Army here, she's specifically screwing over the Lo Po Bia Family. It's not the same thing.


If Adori doesn't approve of the Lo Po Bia vs Po Bidau proxy war, and is grateful that Maschenny frustrated that deal, she wouldn't push any charges against her.

Maschenny may not even lose any influence in the Army in that case.
 

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there are many who doubt the power of asensio, but what he said when he arrived at the baam field was that he could easily beat white now. implying that he would probably went to face him so that baam could get to Mas.. white has a killer mind it is impossible to fight him if you are not on his level because he could easily kill you or cut off parts of your body every attack has the intention of eliminating his enemy maschenny is not going to send a weak to face something like that so I don't think she was willing to sacrifice her brother at this moment, she sent him knowing that he is capable of facing him.
 

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But he actually lost to Kallavan. JH was already done after the wave attack. Even the electric spears that couldn't penetrate him previously easily skewered him with a good dose of electrocution. Yet even with that fatal Injury Kallavan still went against team up of HRs at the last station. Mas actually saved JH from Kallavan there!
Worst of all is that he only had his legs intact. He was already having problems fighting when he could still use his arms.
Again, this is what SIU said of a shattered arms Jinsung vs Kallavan:
  • The battle could have gone either way.
  • Jinsung was very lucky that Maschenny showed up.


I also wonder how Maschenny can come out of this unscathed/tarnished more so in the eyes of Jahad and to a lesser degree Traumeiri.
She wouldn't. Maschenny will get exposed as a traitor here.


Traumeiri seemed unconcerned when he was told Maschenny brought Bam to the area (if I am recalling correctly).
Traumerei was told that Maschenny had captured Baam. That was the original plan. Maschenny would capture Baam and hand him over to the Lo Po Bia. Maschenny just went off script and they don't know it yet.


BTW. We know that UREK has a thing for Garam, As a reader of Wuxia and Xianxia, I can just about imagine a Harem scene. Maschenny, Yuri, Garam.... Crazy!!
Who has the harem here? Surely not Urek? He's not interested in Maschenny or Yuri and they also aren't interested in him.



I hope SIU lets us get a fight scene with Maschenny going all out.
Are you sure that you want this? Considering that Jinsung is stalling Rei's escorts and that we also have to account for Asensio (he could take on Perseus if the need arises), if Maschenny has a serious fight (especially one where she "goes all out") it will likely be against Traumerei himself.

Are you sure that is what you want?
 

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Are you sure that you want this? Considering that Jinsung is stalling Rei's escorts and that we also have to account for Asensio (he could take on Perseus if the need arises), if Maschenny has a serious fight (especially one where she "goes all out") it will likely be against Traumerei himself.

Are you sure that is what you want?
I at least wouldn't mind seeing her get ganked for trying to get above herself by messing with Irregulars. Though I don't think this dude would condescend to letting her mount a serious fight against him. He'd just vaporize her and be done with it.
 

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- I reallly think SIU sent the 2nd strongest Branch Leader (Pudidy - Owl) and the new generation Hollan (High Ranker) and kept Perseus by Traumerei's side on purpose. I think Perseus (Horse) is the strongest Branch Leader right now in the Nest. With that said, there should be a minor differece in strength between Perseus, Owl and Hollan. Hence, SIU sending Owl and Hollan instead of Perseus and Owl for example.
Pudidy is stronger than Horse:
  • He spoke as if he was Horse's senior.
  • This is Horse's first time getting selected as an Escort.
  • Pudidy is clearly the most senior escort:
    • Pudidy is the one that announced Rei's arrival and ordered everyone to kneel and not even look at Rei or dare to imagine his appearance.
    • Pudidy is the one that responded to Rei's inquiry about the Irregular.
  • Pudidy gave Horse orders and Horse complied.
    • He told him to wait behind with the Family Leader and that he would go with Kallavan to retrieve the Irregular.



- Kallavan (don't like his overzealous behaviour when to comes to Jahad and all) is unique as a fighter. I dare say that Kallavan might be right now the 2nd strongest fighter after Traumerei (LPB Family Head) at the NEST battlefield in this arc. If not, then only Perseus might be able to stand up to Kallavan (Kallachad). Might. I doubt it for some reason.
Nothing suggest that Kallavan (even after his power up) is that strong.



I thinks that Holan will go after Baam on his own, while Pudidy will be holding Jinsung back. They wouldn't want to make their family head wait longer than necessary.
Also, fighting the leader of LPB hatchlings would be a good test for Baam's newfound power
  1. Jinsung was told to protect the entrance; he's not going to let anyone of them slip by him.
  2. If anyone does slip by Jinsung, they'll still have to deal with Asensio.



I think him and Kallachad teaming up is a good possibility but as soon as they family head starts moving it’s over.
Kallavan is fully loyal to Zahard and to the Army. He's not going to betray the Army (and more importantly Lord Zahard's mission) again.


While it's interesting that YHS would be even mention that to the LPB FH, what more interesting that the LPB FH responded to it and that he considers Bloodmadder to be his friend???? I'm still not convince that Bloodmadder is LPB FH friend just yet. But then again.....I can't imagine the LPB FH's friend being anybody else except maybe Tu Perie and Yeon, but that's too much of a stretch considering what I mentioned above.
Gustang called the Family Leaders his "dear friends".



there are many who doubt the power of asensio, but what he said when he arrived at the baam field was that he could easily beat white now. implying that he would probably went to face him so that baam could get to Mas.. white has a killer mind it is impossible to fight him if you are not on his level because he could easily kill you or cut off parts of your body every attack has the intention of eliminating his enemy maschenny is not going to send a weak to face something like that so I don't think she was willing to sacrifice her brother at this moment, she sent him knowing that he is capable of facing him.
Yep. Maschenny sent Asensio to the Cat Tower to assist Baam. She probably later asked him to deal with White when he went after Baam.
  • Asensio said that he came to help AA and Co.
  • Asensio said that he needed to send them to Maschenny.
  • The first thing Asensio did upon showing up on Baam's field was measuring White.
  • Asensio commented that he would easily beat him now.
    • Suggesting that he was planning on fighting him.
 

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Are you sure that you want this? Considering that Jinsung is stalling Rei's escorts and that we also have to account for Asensio (he could take on Perseus if the need arises), if Maschenny has a serious fight (especially one where she "goes all out") it will likely be against Traumerei himself.

Are you sure that is what you want?
Of course I do. I would like to see all the powerful characters go all out. This would be fun even if the outcome isn't what I prefer.
 

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I at least wouldn't mind seeing her get ganked for trying to get above herself by messing with Irregulars. Though I don't think this dude would condescend to letting her mount a serious fight against him. He'd just vaporize her and be done with it.
Maschenny is unironically more important to the plot than Traumerei:
  • To the Khun Family
    • The only 13 Month Princess in the history of the Khun Family.
    • Eduan's favourite child.
    • One of the Khun Family's Faction Leaders (Asensio) is her subordinate.
      • Asensio is also one of Eduan's favourite children.
  • To the Zahard Family
    • One of the most powerful 13 Month Princesses.
    • One of the Princesses that helped capture Enne Zahard.
    • An ultra high ranking officer of the Army.
      • She's the Commander of the Nest Operation.
  • Others
    • A mastermind that's driving the plot forward.
      • Miscellaneous schemes of hers:
        • She's behind the Name Hunt Station.
      • She's responsible for the current war:
        • Jinsung's battle with Kallavan
        • Baam's battle with Kallavan
        • Baam rallying FUG to storm the Nest
        • The entire Nest battle itself
        • Sending Baam into the Frozen Waterfall
        • Jinsung confronting Traumerei's escorts
        • Jinsung regarded her as one of the main actors behind the Nest (along with the Great Families and Zahard Army).
      • Other war relevant schemes she has
        • She's backstabbing the Lo Po Bia Family.
        • She's trying to incite a Tower wide war.
        • She said that she'll make the Tower a bloody mess.
        • At the Nest:
          • Whatever her Third Minion is up to.
          • Whatever designs and expectations she has for Baam.
          • Whatever she's up to with the Ha Family.
      • Princess schemes she has:
        • Her bet with Yuri.
        • The Lo Po Bia twins are working for her.
          • SIU said that they hold the key to one of the two big upcoming story arcs.
        • Maria is working for her.
    • Yuri's arch-rival
    • Ran's end goal

If they fight, she's not going to die. She definitely wouldn't win, but it's most likely that SIU would have her put up something of a fight before she gets defeated.

I expect that SIU will respect her as a combatant (especially after hyping her so much).


If someone between Maschenny and Traumerei is dying at the Nest, it'll be Traumerei. Because Maschenny just offers so much more to the story.

Traumerei is no Zahard, Eduan or Gustang . He's an Irregular, but he's not one of the more important ones.


SIU meanwhile keeps reinforcing that Maschenny is a far bigger deal than she initially appears to be on the surface.

In Season 3 Episode 85, Jinsung listed the main actors behind the Nest:


They are:
  • The Zahard Army
  • The 10 Great Families
  • And Maschenny Zahard

That Maschenny Zahard merited being listed as a separate force by herself is pretty incredible.


In Season 3 Episode 99, Jinsung said that he initially thought that Maschenny was just a baby water snake, but she turned out to be a python too big to remain in the sea:


This is Jinsung admitting that he grossly underestimated her and that she's a far bigger deal than he could ever imagine.

And Jinsung doesn't even know the half of what she's up to.


In Season 3 Episode 103's blog post, SIU said that while Yuri is like an angry sea, that Maschenny is so deep and dark that she feels like a dangerous lake.

Again, it reinforces the notion that for SIU Maschenny is someone with hidden depths. Beneath the facade she dons lurks a terrifying monster.


SIU is not afraid to have Maschenny outmaneuver a Family Leader.

For example, even at the Nest, she managed to fool the entire Lo Po Bia Family. Traumerei and his servants believed that she had captured Baam and sealed Jinsung.

She made an entire Great Family and its Leader look like a bunch of clowns.


Maschenny has no hope of beating Traumerei in combat, but after this match is over, she'll be the one to emerge victorious.

Traumerei's objective is to capture Baam and use him for his own ends.

Maschenny hasn't told us what she wants yet, but she's made it clear that:
  • She doesn't want Baam to be captured or killed by Rei.
    • She said that she doesn't want the story to have a boring ending and wants to see it continue to become even more interesting.
  • She has very high expectations of Baam.
    • In Season 3 Episode 48 she wondered aloud what the Irregular could even accomplish on the battlefield. She further said that she wanted to see him become a vast wave of anger like the Tower has never seen before.
    • In Season 3 Episode 65 she commented that he reminded her of Zahard.
    • In Season 3 Episode 97 she wondered aloud if Baam could satisfy her expectations.
      • In response, Jinsung warned Baam not to come because the person waiting at the end of this was far too high for them.
      • It sounds like Jinsung was replying to Maschenny's expectations for Baam.
      • It sounds like Jinsung was warning Baam about Rei.

My current best guess is that Maschenny intends to drive Baam into conflict against Traumerei (perhaps using Jinsung), and her expectations are for him to prove himself in combat there.

Whatever her expectations are, Baam is going to blow them out of the water, and he'll leave the battle triumphant.

That's a win for Maschenny.


Traumerei would:
  • Fail to capture Baam
  • Lose whatever he sealed in the Frozen Waterfall.
  • Lose several of his strongest children

That'll be a massive loss for him.
 

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Maybe SIU forgot

But there’s not suppose to be anything from traum here
If not zahard treasures and things!

the waterfall was empty after the egg hatches
So zahard asked him to use it....

To be honest if SIU changed the original narrative is a foul for him.. we dont wanne see another sealed warrior nor another future blood bath slayer... is meaninglesss...

We need this

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For real im just no wanna know about that stupid voices again...
 

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By the way, healing jinsung and putting him here, means maschenny has now openly chosen the side opposing jahad since it was known jinsung is in her custody. I wonder what happens of that.
I think Maschenny eventually gets exposed to the Lo Po Bia Family. I'm curious how she handles the fallout.


People seems to forget that Jinsung is injured and that normally is power level should have diminished a lot .
He's not injured. Maschenny sought medical attention for him in the immediate aftermath of his battle with Kallavan.


Again this is just only a theory, but Maschenny having feelings of Loyalty toward her father is not being servile or unusual, it is in fact normal for the kind of social background depicted in the story.
I don't think Maschenny genuinely serving anyone fits her character.

Maschenny's archetype is someone that's loyal to herself alone.

I can see Maschenny working with Eduan. I can see Maschenny working alongside Eduan. But Maschenny just being someone that pursues Eduan's will is contrary to her core characterisation.


but if in fact there are 20 long opponents, Paul could defeat some of the weaker ones, we still have Karaka, Cha, Ha Chonee, Dowon
A top 300 High Ranker like Lefav wasn't even a Branch Leader. She implied that she needed to make it to the Top 200 to become a Branch Leader:


Considering that, of those you mentioned, only Cha (and maybe Dowon) can defeat even the weakest Branch Leader.
 

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Though SIU set up many things for Maschenny, I'm not sure she is so important that she wouldn't be made as stepping stone at some point. TOG set up the game being rigged against the tower born people, the Irregulars are the only people that seem to matter. They come and they change things to their liking, no Regular ever did to that extent, and Maschenny likely no different. Behind her is probably an Irregular or even higher up if that's possible, using her as pawn.

Maschenny isn't dying anytime soon, she has much story to tell, but I don't think she is above being made humiliated, similar to how she made Jinsung a fool. If Maschenny, on her own, completely outmaneuver Rei, I fear that will bring down Irregular's value, though from the look of things, Maschenny is really doing that.

Regardless I'm hyped for plot to move, and to end this Nest arc soon. Hope next arc/intermission isn't so battle heavy.
 

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I think Maschenny eventually gets exposed to the Lo Po Bia Family. I'm curious how she handles the fallout.



He's not injured. Maschenny sought medical attention for him in the immediate aftermath of his battle with Kallavan.



I don't think Maschenny genuinely serving anyone fits her character.

Maschenny's archetype is someone that's loyal to herself alone.

I can see Maschenny working with Eduan. I can see Maschenny working alongside Eduan. But Maschenny just being someone that pursues Eduan's will is contrary to her core characterisation.



A top 300 High Ranker like Lefav wasn't even a Branch Leader. She implied that she needed to make it to the Top 200 to become a Branch Leader:


Considering that, of those you mentioned, only Cha (and maybe Dowon) can defeat even the weakest Branch Leader.
I think SIU has gotten better at drawing her ass, particularly in the leather skin-tights.
 

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Paul >>>>>>>>>> Yuri
Very wrong.



But that little snake is just a mind controlled animal or he has his soul in the little snake?
I think his soul is in the little snake currently. It explains why:
  • No one suspects Maschenny of anything.
  • The Lo Po Bia don't know that Jinsung was not sealed.
  • The Lo Po Bia think that Maschenny captured Baam.


Maybe SIU forgot

But there’s not suppose to be anything from traum here
If not zahard treasures and things!

the waterfall was empty after the egg hatches
So zahard asked him to use it....

To be honest if SIU changed the original narrative is a foul for him.. we dont wanne see another sealed warrior nor another future blood bath slayer... is meaninglesss...

We need this

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For real im just no wanna know about that stupid voices again...
There are many options:
  1. The item that Maschenny wants is not the same thing as the Voice that called out to Baam.
  2. Maschenny's information on the contents of the Frozen Waterfall was mistaken.
  3. Maschenny is an unreliable Narrator.
  4. SIU retconned it.
 

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I hope SIU dedicates the entire next chapter to JH!!!
 

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If someone between Maschenny and Traumerei is dying at the Nest, it'll be Traumerei. Because Maschenny just offers so much more to the story.

Traumerei is no Zahard, Eduan or Gustang . He's an Irregular, but he's not one of the more important ones.
Source: voices from Cinera's head.

There is absolutely nothing that says this, your statement is completely crazy.

You're simply basing yourself on one character who's had more screen time than the other and distorting everything.

Maschenny isn't even the protagonist princess of ToG and you tell me she's more important than an FH? For God.

The Lo Po Bia family has been antagonists to Baam since season 1 and Traumerai has just been introduced, how do you have the audacity to say that he is less important than her?

And at what point did SIU say which FH is more important or not for the story?

Honestly, I don't understand your illness for Maschenny.
 

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I think is really hard for somebody find out how karaka immortality works and more difficult to get to that dimension for now we know just one ranker who can open portals and go through dimensions in one floor is urek with his light speed speciality none else can get there in my opinion thats the middle area that pudidy talk about. But to figuere out how karaka’s immortality works i think is the hard thing to do here.
It was said that only the 10 Family Leaders or the Administrators can access Karaka's dimension without permission.

So Karaka is still vulnerable to the Great Warriors (Urek may not actually be able to access his dimension).


Though SIU set up many things for Maschenny, I'm not sure she is so important that she wouldn't be made as stepping stone at some point.
She's Yuri's arch rival.
Ran's ambition is to surpass and kill her.

One of them could use her as a stepping stone.


Behind her is probably an Irregular or even higher up if that's possible, using her as pawn.
I think it's plausible that she's working alongside an Irregular (my top choices would be Gustang or Eduan).

But I don't think she's working for someone. And I don't think her brazeness or success at the Nest is due to whatever backers she has.

expected and that people not even she could handle became actively involved:


She goes on to say that as a result, she kept Jinsung alive and brought him to the Nest. As he was like a breakwater for Baam and an important member of the Ha Family:


The look of fear and despair on her face when she says the above seems genuine.


If Maschenny was working in service to an Irregular:
  • She'd never have commented on the game becoming too big for her when the Irregulars got involved.
    • She wouldn't be a Player in the first place, but merely a piece or helper of one of the Players.
  • She wouldn't be so terrified when the Irregulars got involved as she has suitable backers and supporters.
  • She wouldn't need to prepare her own countermeasures to an Irregular getting involved as her supporter would presumably handle it.



Maschenny isn't dying anytime soon, she has much story to tell, but I don't think she is above being made humiliated, similar to how she made Jinsung a fool.
I strongly doubt this.
  • Jinsung: "I thought she was just a young water snake who like to fight... But she's a python too big to remain in the sea".
  • SIU: "Maschenny feels like a dangerous lake because she's so deep and dark".
In both instances, SIU is saying that Maschenny is far more dangerous than she initially appears to be.



If Maschenny, on her own, completely outmaneuver Rei, I fear that will bring down Irregular's value, though from the look of things, Maschenny is really doing that.
I mean, it's very clear that Maschenny is a Player in her own right.

At the start of the Nest, she commented that while Baam currently does not have much power, his mere existence is shaking the board already:
Adios said:
I do wonder, if they are going to come.

I wonder what the Irregular can even do here.

He may be weak, but his mere existence is shaking the board already.
The chessboard metaphor is interesting, and brings to mind the scenario of a chess game with Players and pieces.

Maschenny seemingly considers herself one of the Players.


Jinsung listed her alongside the Zahard Army and 10 Great Families as the main forces/actors behind the Nest:

Note that Maschenny by herself, merits this distinction.


She tells Jinsung that she wouldn't tell him what she's up to, but that she doesn't want Baam's story to come to a boring end, and so she raised the stakes:


She mentioned that the game suddenly became much bigger and now there are people involved that not even she can handle:

Again, the implication is that she's sitting at the same board as the Family Leaders and Zahard, but they are even bigger forces than her.


She reveals that she's the mastermind behind the Nest, and that her purpose is the same as the other Players. She wants to obtain the special card called "Irregular":

Again, she groups herself with the Players.


She tells Baam and his allies that they are not strong enough or great enough to side with her (or any of the other Players):

Again, Maschenny implicitly groups herself among the Players.


She goes on to say that Baam's group are only fit to become pawns. And then asks them if they want to become her pawns:

Once again, she's implicitly implying that she's one of the Players on the game board.



Maschenny clearly presents herself as a Player in her own right. The idea that she's just a pawn serving one of the true Players has no substance in the Webtoon.

It's a headcanon rooted solely in the fetishism of the Irregulars.

Maschenny may be the smallest Player at the table, but she's still one among them. At least, that's what the story is currently telling us.
 
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