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Chapter Tower of God Chapter 604 Spoilers & Discussion

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You really think the guy who calls people vermin is gonna honour his deals?

The most he'd do is trick them like he did with White.
If you are refering to the Souls on The F. O. D, Gustang actually did the right thing, And I don't see how he tricked white.
It felt more like Teaching him a lessonwhile protecting the souls.

The Souls were probably under Gustangs protection from the start. Gustang merely allowed white to find out himself that the souls could not be removed from the FOD.
 

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Since bunny-head attacked first Cha couldn’t One shot him but he is dead in the next attack.
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Lol Yama is a fucking Bum, SIU stop.
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To be honest idk how Proust is going to survive this battle
 

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Yama's tail seems to be longer.
 

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I don't remember with who I was discussing back then, but someone here told me that Monocle wouldn't reappear and is probably a fodder in the family. Now he is against One Punch Cha!!
and it seems to attack from a distance, maybe we'll get another PB WC
maybe
 

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It's fun to see Gustang actually dodge attacks before counter attacking; but, at the same time it's feeling more and more strange to meet entities in the tower that can threaten family heads ( Akrinak in Yama, Léviathan, and now Enkidu...). Who knows, Enkidu may have slaughtered another unamed irregular, the 14th GW who happened to have been a teenage love caught between Gustang and Traum, (a love triangle between Traum, Gustang and the teenage girl) she may have preferred Traum while Gustang was madly in love. Then Traum's latest pet from the Workshop actually slaughtered the hell out of her when she tried playing with it and it became best for both FH to seal their memories of her entire existence, and also for the remaining FH to forget they were 14 and ended up 13, and then 11 (10+ Zahard). From such spéculations we can partially understand why Gustang said to Traum that he'll decide wether to kill Traum or not once he fully remembers what happened in the past. And, poor Léviathan who's been punished for billions of years to keep remembering how a teenage love was brutally murdered, while being sealed all that time in the almost unbreakable Nest ; such an extreme maltreatment.

Thinking about it, why the hell would Rachel expect Gustang to help her absorb Enkidu, a beast he himself has to dodge attacks !?

Oh! Crack pot theory: the Existence of beasts that can actually pose a serious threat to the 13 GW, Levi, Enkidu, the thing in Yama... May actually be the real reason why Fug believes they can actually defeat the FH; just imagine if White actually absorbed a beast like Enkidu, then Gustang will have to seriously dodge his attacks... That may be the secret meaning of Arie Hon's words to White :" stop training here, go out and come back once your a beast/demon"
 
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Nice to see Yama leveling up before Boss Man Mircea shows up 🤣
 

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It's fun to see Gustang actually dodge attacks before counter attacking; but, at the same time it's feeling more and more strange to meet entities in the tower that can threaten family heads ( the anciens beast sleeping in Yama, Léviathan, and now Enkidu...). Who knows, Enkidu may have slaughtered another unamed irregular, the 14th GW who happened to have been a teenage love caught between Gustang and Traum, (a love triangle between Traum, Gustang and the teenage girl) she may have preferred Traum while Gustang was madly in love. Then Traum's latest pet from the Workshop actually slaughtered the hell out of her when she tried playing with it and it became best for both FH to seal their memories of her entire existence, and also for the remaining FH to forget they were 14 and ended up 13, and then 11 (10+ Zahard). From such spéculations we can partially understand why Gustang said to Traum that he'll decide wether to kill Traum or not once he fully remembers what happened in the past. And, poor Léviathan who's been punished for billions of years to keep remembering how a teenage love was brutally murdered, while being sealed all that time in the almost unbreakable Nest ; such an extreme maltreatment.

Thinking about it, why the hell would Rachel expect Gustang to help her absorb Enkidu, a beast he himself has to dodge attacks !?

Oh! Crack pot theory: the Existence of beasts that can actually pose a serious threat to the 13 GW, Levi, Enkidu, the thing in Yama... May actually be the real reason why Fug believes they can actually defeat the FH; just imagine if White actually absorbed a beast like Enkidu, then Gustang will have to seriously dodge his attacks... That may be the secret meaning of Arie Hon's words to White :" stop training here, go out and come back once your a beast/demon"
??? He dodged, but it doesn't mean he is a threat.

We have yet to see a Shinheuh who is that strong. Leviathan had that hype before but even he admitted that he can't beat Traumerei and that the FHs are beyond him. He needs Baam to absorb Traumerei's three Water Dragons to have a chance.
 

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??? He dodged, but it doesn't mean he is a threat.

We have yet to see a Shinheuh who is that strong. Leviathan had that hype before but even he admitted that he can't beat Traumerei and that the FHs are beyond him. He needs Baam to absorb Traumerei's three Water Dragons to have a chance.
Thanks for the last statement: the absorbtion of a certain number of strong beasts (e.g all three water dragons) can start posing a serious threat to the FH... Now I wonder where Siu is trying to lead us by keeping to introduce such beasts and stating their immense powers !?!
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So far, Hoaqin is the only known regular to almost be able to endlessly absorb entities, almost like Baam; but then, what actually predisposed Yama to be able to be a receptacle of Akrinak, I wonder.

Crack pot theory : Adori may hold her top 10 position thanks to being the host of one or several ancient beasts and perfectly mastering their powers
 
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I have 2 Questions so far:

1) The prison where Enkidu is being held is it also in the sprout, or its imediate vicinity? It seems a bit odd that a place seemingly sacred to Navigators also serves as a prison.
2) Is the actual form of Enkidu itself Just the Head, or is The Gel-like golem/body Enkidu was inside, Enkidu's actual body? I suspect that Enkidu's true form is yet to be manifested.

Observation:

With the manner Gustang quickly finished off Enkidu's resistance, it now seems far too weak to be of any help to Bam. Now I'm wondering if its even worth it for Bam to swallow it up. Well I don't think Enkidu could be a water dragon anyhow.
 

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It's fun to see Gustang actually dodge attacks before counter attacking; but, at the same time it's feeling more and more strange to meet entities in the tower that can threaten family heads ( Akrinak in Yama, Léviathan, and now Enkidu...). Who knows, Enkidu may have slaughtered another unamed irregular, the 14th GW who happened to have been a teenage love caught between Gustang and Traum, (a love triangle between Traum, Gustang and the teenage girl) she may have preferred Traum while Gustang was madly in love. Then Traum's latest pet from the Workshop actually slaughtered the hell out of her when she tried playing with it and it became best for both FH to seal their memories of her entire existence, and also for the remaining FH to forget they were 14 and ended up 13, and then 11 (10+ Zahard). From such spéculations we can partially understand why Gustang said to Traum that he'll decide wether to kill Traum or not once he fully remembers what happened in the past. And, poor Léviathan who's been punished for billions of years to keep remembering how a teenage love was brutally murdered, while being sealed all that time in the almost unbreakable Nest ; such an extreme maltreatment.

Thinking about it, why the hell would Rachel expect Gustang to help her absorb Enkidu, a beast he himself has to dodge attacks !?

Oh! Crack pot theory: the Existence of beasts that can actually pose a serious threat to the 13 GW, Levi, Enkidu, the thing in Yama... May actually be the real reason why Fug believes they can actually defeat the FH; just imagine if White actually absorbed a beast like Enkidu, then Gustang will have to seriously dodge his attacks... That may be the secret meaning of Arie Hon's words to White :" stop training here, go out and come back once your a beast/demon"
I cant seem to remember when Leviathan or akrinak were said to be threats to FH; and outside of rachels claims...nothing was said about Enkidu either.
 
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Leviathan on its own is no threat to a FH; even when talking about Traum.
True, but imagine White absorbs Levi + Akrinak + Enkidu, then Adori herself will have to pay him a visit to smack him down. At any rate, it's not exactly for no reason that FH themselves make a move once these beasts are involved. !!!
 

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True, but imagine White absorbs Levi + Akrinak + Enkidu, then Adori herself will have to pay him a visit to smack him down. At any rate, it's not exactly for no reason that FH themselves make a move once these beasts are involved. !!!
I mean Traum made one and was gifted the other.
Zahard watched as akrinak got attacked by HRs ; i guess thats him making a move
 

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??? He dodged, but it doesn't mean he is a threat.

We have yet to see a Shinheuh who is that strong. Leviathan had that hype before but even he admitted that he can't beat Traumerei and that the FHs are beyond him. He needs Baam to absorb Traumerei's three Water Dragons to have a chance.

The 3 Dragons is a ridiculous shit to say,
These 3 dragons are the most powerful beast in Traumerei’s Zoo it's like Levi is asking Baam to take away everything from him just to “have a chance” LMAO Like no shit levi? And then levi has to absorb these 3 dragons right? Levi is far from traumerei level.
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Enkidu is weak!
Gustang or Traumerei did not lose to him in the past.
Enkidu killed a weak tower-born companion similar to Baam's companions to them.
I guess Gustang blames Traumerei.
Bc Traumerei couldn't control it.
 

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Nah, in this case he should defeat both. Traumerei is still the worst of the two.
Gustang is a good guy. He's on bam side and his reasoning for going against tower is justified
 

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To say that he didn't recover from the fight against Yas in a webtoon where we have Khell Hellam healing from a huge hole in his stomach is completely unfair.
Healing isn't always equal to full recovery though. I remember Kallavan doing the same to his arm after taking Baams stardust yet the damage was still persistent.
But I agree Yamas case seems forced since he had time that should have been sufficient to recover
 

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True, but imagine White absorbs Levi + Akrinak + Enkidu, then Adori herself will have to pay him a visit to smack him down. At any rate, it's not exactly for no reason that FH themselves make a move once these beasts are involved. !!!
Doesn't White Only absorbs souls?
 

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True, but imagine White absorbs Levi + Akrinak + Enkidu, then Adori herself will have to pay him a visit to smack him down. At any rate, it's not exactly for no reason that FH themselves make a move once these beasts are involved. !!!
none of them have caused a family head to mobilize though. Levi was sealed within the nest and traumerei would on occasion try to tame him. Akrinac was dealt with by traumerei's army while zahard's hologram looked from affar. Gustang only approached enkido at all because he wanted to ask it some questions. The only being in the tower so far who is stated to cause a family head to mobilize remains luslec.
 

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