[Vato Loco] Attempts cleaning challenge #4

[Vato Loco!]

Well, here it is, numero quatro.



and the raw.



Well, I suck at re-drawing, but I tried. I didn't do anything leveling wise to it because I felt that it didn't need it.

Lastly, this thing took me a while, more so because I hated looking at it, than actual cleaning itself. Critique away.

 

[Fnuckale]

Critique? alright.
Here are the main points:

1. The redrawing is rather obvious on some frames:
On the second frame the redrawing is good, although you removed afew lines there, if you know which ones I mean.
On the 3rd, 5th and 6th frames the redrawing is very obvious because the line-tool is very sharp comparing to the lineart.

2. The lineart is rather bluur, comparing to the raw, because of rotating.

Except for reframing which could be better the page is pretty good.
Thumbs up, hopfully you'll enjoy cleaning your next page better :P

 

[Vato Loco!]

Critique? alright.
Here are the main points:

1. The redrawing is rather obvious on some frames:
On the second frame the redrawing is good, although you removed afew lines there, if you know which ones I mean.
On the 3rd, 5th and 6th frames the redrawing is very obvious because the line-tool is very sharp comparing to the lineart.

2. The lineart is rather bluur, comparing to the raw, because of rotating.

Except for reframing which could be better the page is pretty good.
Thumbs up, hopfully you'll enjoy cleaning your next page better :P

Hmm...Yep. The line tool is really sharp, even though I had the anti-alias on. This was my process to do the line art:

line tool>make line>make selection>edit>fill. Would it have been better to make a path with the pen tool, then under the shortcut menu do "stroke path"? Or is there another way of using the line tool that will make the lines less sharp that I'm not aware of?

Is there any way to prevent blurring when rotating the page so that the frames are aligned? Also, I didn't make the rotation on the background page, I used a background copy, could that be the problem?

 

[Fnuckale]

Well for the line tool part.. you can always different kinds of filters (ie: blur and sharpen) but that might be just a big. I would use the stamp clone tool for this kind of lineart and combine it with the brush tool which is normally anti-aliased enough.

Regarding rotating, no, I'm afraid you can't rotate a page without affecting the lineart (or maybe there is a way but I don't know it).
What I would do is rotate the page BEFORE resizing (when you have this option) - normally at 1500px+ - and when the page is already in the final size I'd reframe it so the frames atleast look straight, even if it might hide some of the art.

Hope this helps and if you have any more questions feel free to ask.

 

[Vato Loco!]

Lol. Actually I have two more questions, thanks for all your help so far.

When cleaning, I use the cleaners compendium as a reference, and in the cleaners compendium it says after you outline the panel frames to use the magic wand to select the white outside the frames, and then fill with white to get rid of the dirt outside of the frames. However, when I did this in cleaning challenge 4 the third panel was also covered over in white, this being problem one. I tried going back and selecting it, outlining it then lowering the outline optacity to 0. I also tried doing it in a higher layer but it wouldn't work. So is there any way of doing the magic wand type of clean without loosing that panel. One way I'm thinking might work would be to cut and paste that panel onto a higher layer. If you know of a way to do a quick clean like the the magic wand with out losing the panel that would help a lot.

I highlighted the panel that is lost



My second question is about the OP cover pages. In the Enels space adventure cover pages, is there a ways of blackening the blacks in the sky without loosing the stars? The only way I can think of doing it is going in with the pencil and brush tool and individually stroking over the stars in a higher layer than the blacks layer.



Thanks again for all your help.

 

[Fnuckale]

Well for the first question.. that's not exactly how I would clean my frames. I would completely reframe (ie: redraw all of the borders), but if you insist on using the magic selection tool then you can go to quick mask and unselect the areas you don't wanna whiten up (or use the way you suggested which is just about the same thing).

For the second question - you can just level the page (about 80 on the blacks) and although you will have a bit of dust left most of the blacks will be right and stars will be left unharmed (given your raw is like that example page you posted).
For other cases I also suggest combining leveling, then brushing out the dust on the same or a different layer (you can also use some filters such as reduce noise).

 

[Vato Loco!]

Well for the first question.. that's not exactly how I would clean my frames. I would completely reframe (ie: redraw all of the borders), but if you insist on using the magic selection tool then you can go to quick mask and unselect the areas you don't wanna whiten up (or use the way you suggested which is just about the same thing).

For the second question - you can just level the page (about 80 on the blacks) and although you will have a bit of dust left most of the blacks will be right and stars will be left unharmed (given your raw is like that example page you posted).
For other cases I also suggest combining leveling, then brushing out the dust on the same or a different layer (you can also use some filters such as reduce noise).

Actually, the re-drawing suggestion doesn't sound like a bad idea, if anything just a little time consuming. Lol, thanks for reminding me about the quick mask. I don't really insist on using the magic wand method, it's just the only method I knew, other than manual cleaning.

I guess for the second question I just have to practice my leveling ( more than likely I'll be using angrys leveling tutorial to as a guide).

Thanks for all the help Fnuckale.

 

[Fnuckale]

Yup. No problem.

For the leveling btw I don't really think you need a guide, just go with your eyes.

 

[Vato Loco!]

Actually, I have a question, not really cleaning wise. Is rush still releasing one piece hq chapters? I really dug your chapters and used to collect them on my old computer (now working primarily off of my laptop ) but I noticed you guys stopped about 425-426'ish.

 

[Fnuckale]

Afraid not. Got kinda understaffed and unmotivated.

 

[Vato Loco!]

Ahh, ok. It was awesome while it lasted.