Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Aipom626]

Well we got 11 new series this year, same as 2016. Ranking best to worst:
Shudan
Hungry Marie (Reading raws now and it's freaking hilarious)
Dr Stone (Couldn't have had a worse start, but it's decent-ish now)
Golem Hearts
We Never Learn
RxL
Lycopene
Poro
Cross Account
Full Drive
U19

Pretty good year for new series as Lycopene is the cutoff for what I'd consider good. 2016 had 4 acceptable series for me personally, so a much better turnout

Best to worst of the 2017 new series:
1. We Never Learn
2. Dr. Stone
3. Shudan
4. Cross Account
5. Lycopene
6. Hungry Marie
7. Poro
8. Golem Hearts
9. Robot x Laserbeam
10. U19
11. Full Drive

The first 2 I'm really loving, especially WNL. Spots 3-5 are alright. Spots 6-9 were passable but kind of boring or not my thing. The last 2 I did not enjoy at all. This was my first year following magazine releases (actually only been doing it a few months), so I don't have much to compare it to. Rest in peace to Samon, you were truly a diamond in the rough lol. Can't wait to see how far Spring Weapon makes it into this year, and which series it'll ultimately pass the "low-selling how-are-you-still-here?" torch to once (if) it departs. Bozebeats doesn't look like my thing, but Act-age may be interesting

 

[savethecat]

For me

We Never Learn
Shudan
Dr. Stone
Poro
Robot X Laserbeam
Golem Hearts
Hungry Marie
Full Drive
Tomato Poodle
U19
Cross Account

 

[Doughboy]

Best:
MHA S2, S3 announcement, movie
HxH 2018 return announcement
BC being a long runner

Surprising:
BC's first episode
Dr. Stone 2nd arc
No for sure smash hit series

Worst:
Golem Hearts dying
Every debate on female characters in Jump that get out of hand
Every debate on Togashi's back pains that get out of hand
Backlash over Yuuna's ecchi
The creation of the phrase "venerate veterans"

New series best to worst:

Spoiler

Golem Hearts
WNL
Dr. Stone
Hungry Marie
Full Drive
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Cross Account
Poro
Poodle
Golf
Soccer
U19

 

[tirakai]

Best
Kimetsu gaining a lot of popularity
Zumou anime announcement

Worst
Watsuki drama
Pierrot getting Black Clover

Wierdest
Spring Weapon still not being cancelled yet

 

[Mr.Fujimaster]

2017 was a good year for Jump.
Kimetsu no Yaiba and Yakusoku no Neverland increasing sales with each volume released.
Yuuna-san had his anime announced (well deserved).
Hinomaru Zumou also had its anime announced.
WNL has become a good substitute for Nisekoi (I do not mean in sales).
Dr. Stone in my opinion was the best rookie of the year, with a good story and great characters.
Robot x Laserbeam is a good sport manga for Jump, RxL can be very popular with the passage of time.

 

[tirakai]

1- Dr Stone
also 1- WNL
3- RxL
4- Shudan
5- Full Drive
6- Poro
7- Tomato
8- U19
9- Golem Hearts
10- Hungry Marie
11- Cross Account

I don't get the hype for Golem Hearts, sure it looks cute but the structure so far has just been the same as every other recent flop battle shounen. Are people just that hungry for a new battle shounen, or do they genuinely really like the 'spend 4 chapters drawing out what should've been chapter 1, do an edgy death scene that means nothing, etc' formula all the failures have?

 

[Mr.Fujimaster]

2017 was a good year for Jump.
Kimetsu no Yaiba and Yakusoku no Neverland increasing sales with each volume released.
Yuuna-san had his anime announced (well deserved).
Hinomaru Zumou also had its anime announced.
WNL has become a good substitute for Nisekoi (I do not mean in sales).
Dr. Stone in my opinion was the best rookie of the year, with a good story and great characters.
Robot x Laserbeam is a good sport manga for Jump, RxL can be very popular with the passage of time.

I think the worst things that happened this year were:
Watsuki's arrest.
Hungrie Marie have disappointed me.
Black Clover being poorly adapted by Pierrot.
Samon-kun cancelled.

Shuudan did not become a success.

 

[razerxs]

Best:
Members with Excel charts
Anime announcements for Hinomaru & Yuragi
More gags in the magazine

Worst:
Losing the 30K club
World Trigger isn't back yet
MHA attempts world building

Spoiler: Haven't we been through rankings before?

1. Golem Hearts
2. Dr. Stone
3. Ibitsu no Amalgam
4. Shudan
   
5. Robot x Laserbeam
6. We Never Learn
7. Spring Weapon No 1 & Lycopene the Tomatoy Poodle
8. Ore Golazo
9. U19
10. Hungry Marie
11. Demon's Plan
12. Full Drive
13. Cross Account

 

[Aipom626]

Best moments would have to include We Never Learn surviving the serialization round thin-out and the announcement of a Yuuna anime. Worst moment is the loss of Samon (no matter how reasonable and justifiable its axing was). Taking that gamble on Spring Weapon at least reaching its level of sales ultimately didn't pay off.

Best:
Members with Excel charts
Anime announcements for Hinomaru & Yuragi
More gags in the magazine

While I'm sure others have them around here, I'm glad you enjoyed the Excel charts! 2018 should be much easier since I just rolled the workbook forward a year and deleted the rows of series that ended last year.

 

[ChocoBar9]

Black Clover being poorly adapted by Pierrot.

For best moments the consistent delusion of the Black Clover fanbase who thinks Pierrot did anything but slow it down.

 

[Tamil]

Best:
Kimetsu's popularity growth
HZ anime announcement
Gintama Live Action Movie success
MHA S3 & Movie announcement

Worst:
Watsuki drama.
Shokugeki is getting a new anime season and won't just die.

 

[savethecat]

Does anyone have a link to the Act Age one shot. Would like to see it

 

[Tanzo]

E no Genten (Naoshi Komi) oneshot raw: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5499104741
Shudan! final chapter raw: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5499129162

 

[TyVip]

First half of E no Genten one shot was expected. The 2nd half though

This one shot looks like something Komi did for fun.

 

[Aipom626]

E no Genten (Naoshi Komi) oneshot raw: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5499104741
Shudan! final chapter raw: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5499129162

Komi's oneshot was pretty good. Seems like it has the exact level of drama his oneshots and series tend to have. I hope Shudan's final chapter gets translated soon since I'm curious if we got any form of confession, or if it was just implied as the images make it seem

 

[Mr.Fujimaster]

E no Genten (Naoshi Komi) oneshot raw: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5499104741
Shudan! final chapter raw: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5499129162

I liked the oneshot of Naoshi Komi.
But I expected more action scenes.

 

[Inumaru]

Man, I'll really miss Shudan, seeing the last chapter makes me so sad. Definitely the best WSJ series I read this year.

 

[razerxs]

Isn't time to be announced the singers for the new Black Clover's OP/ED?

Opening - BiSH (ビッシュ)
Ending - SWANKY DANK（スワンキーダンク）

 

[Halloween]

Opening - BiSH (ビッシュ)
Ending - SWANKY DANK（スワンキーダンク）

Are there YouTube videos available? For the music itself, not the OP/ED.

 

[CallMeTsuyu]

E no Genten (Naoshi Komi) oneshot raw: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5499104741
Shudan! final chapter raw: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5499129162

I can't read kanji and stuff, so I'm not really sure if this is the case or not, but it seems like they focused more on the relationship of the MC and his whom I presume to be childhood friend rather than the gaming aspect of it. Would have liked to have seen how Komi-sensei would have illustrated a full match, but he probably didn't have enough page space to fit something like that in. Either way, it's cool that we got a manga, even if it's just a one-shot, about fighting games. Fills me with a bit of pride as I consider myself an avid member of the FGC. Whether Komi-sensei decides to take this idea and do more with it in the future, I'm glad he wrote this one-shot. Can't wait to read Origin of E translated in a couple weeks.