But by your definition Yozakura would be on chainsaw's tier because their first few volumes were only off 20-30k lol, it doesn't make any sense. These differences are big early on, and like I said, it's not just about where they stand now but where they are projected to be. Mashle's backlog consistently charts on shoseki, where yozakura is still below 30k on monthly at volume 5 Mashle is likely to be at around 70-80k by that mark, I can actually predict that Mashle is going to keep outgrowing and outpacing Yozakura just by observing how their backlog performs. Claiming Yozakura is in the same tier as Mashle is absurd, there's a reason Mashle got a second cover and a push campaign and Yozakura did not.
Bessatsu as a magazine has 50k circulation. Mashle alone sells more than it. Why even bring it up for comparison lol.
Why you're even bringing a magazine print number? this has zero connection with studio picking a manga to adapt lol
If Chainsaw Man was still selling 50K right now I WOULD say Yozakura and Chainsaw Man were in the same tier, and that makes sense.
I diverged a bit with my ending remarks. I had a bunch of pre-release hype for TPGW, but if anything, that made the reality of me being disappointed by the first chapter sting that much worse in the end.
Because "a studio picking a manga to adapt" is completely irrelevant when it's still up to the mag to make the decision to greenlight an adaptation in the first place. Just because bessatsu can see value in adapting a series with those kind of sales doesn't mean WSJ does as well. Where a series like "I'm standing on 100 lives" is a fine performer for a magazine like Bessatsu, these kind of sales would not grant it an anime on WSJ. Why are we even discussing this...
But this literally makes no sense whatsoever...you think a volume 1 selling 40k and a volume selling 14k are on the same tier because "it's just a 30k difference", and that a series selling 56k at volume 3 with over 10k VoV growths is the same as a series selling 22k at volume 4 with 2-3k growths VoV.If Chainsaw Man was still selling 50K right now I WOULD say Yozakura and Chainsaw Man were in the same tier, and that makes sense.
Why you're even discussing something you don't know about it as if you know? are you editor on WSJ? do you have access of informations about the behind the scenes on SJ meetings and stuff? how you know for a fact what kind of sales would or not grant a anime adaptation on WSJ or any other magazine, specially in the current industry and SJ state? you're not speaking facts or being realistic as you think you are, you're just forcing a personal opinion as if is a fact/realistic.
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Think the question should be when was the last time a 30k seller got an anime.
Sorry, maybe I should instead throw out all previous standards and argue based on feelings because I feel like it. Let's try it this way: Agravity is selling more than "The vampire dies in no time" on champion, anime soon!
Sorry, I just don’t see this numbers as a big gap at all.
Well i guess your tentative of being sarcastic is a "no, i don't know anything"
I used the same exact argument as you did to try and point out a flaw in your reasoning. Clearly didn't work seeing your response but the attempt was made.Well i guess your tentative of being sarcastic is a "no, i don't know anything"
No, you didn't, i asked if you have any source or access to the claims you do about what kind of sales grant or not a anime adaptation under WSJ or any magazine and you just tried to be a smartass doing a direct sales comparison because you clearly don't have access, you don't have to act like a know it all about the industry everytime, i have been following this probably for a longer time than you and i know very well the differences between X and Y magazine, my example with BSM series was just to say that hard sales number don't really dictate what gets or not a anime adaptation, simple.
But the point you completely missed is that I'm standing on 100 lives is a good performer for Bessatsu and that's why Bessatsu gives it an adaptation, every magazine has its own standard for what is considered a hit and what isn't, what is worth an anime and what isn't, so yes sales matter, of course they matter, you think the editorial is playing freaking darts to decide what to push and what gets an adaptation?
Bro, i know literally everything you're saying, i'm not missing any point, my original comment was basically saying "hard sales numbers" don't really dictate what gets or not a anime adaptation, be in WSJ or any other magazine, i don't think i need to go over any little detail and make this and that comparison to make the point clear like you're doing in this comment.
Bolded: I’ll be honest with you, half of the time it actually does feel that way. But I think it’s more like if a studio is interested in adapting it, then sure, Shueisha/Jump will of course greenlight it for multiple reasons, such as giving the series a late, hopeful push because not every series get that kind of interest and opportunity. Another may be at least to help give the author some closure by giving them the achievement of an adaptation they’ve always dreamed of.
I never argued that it was getting an anime or getting an anime first.
Yozakura is definitely a level below the rest in terms of growth rate.
You keep ignoring the fact that the growth rate of Yozakura is nowhere near Mashle and Undead. These two keep raising their sales with every volume released and by the time they reach Yozakura length they will probably be closer to 100k while Yozakura at vol 5 wont even reach 40k and grows very slowly. You can look at their trajectories and predict that UxU and Mashle will be much bigger than Yozakura in the future which Shueisha would do too when planning future anime adaptations.
