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MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #25 - BOTH WAYS OF VOTE

The poll for issue #25 is now open HERE!

Like last week, from now both ways of voting will be made in the same thread, so you can vote in the same place for your favorite 5 chapters in the traditional poll and rank your favorite 5 chapters in the comments adding extra points!

The extra chapters this week are Dragon Ball Super 60, Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 46 and the one shot "Yugen's All-Ghouls Homeroom" by Tsukuda Yuto and Saeki Shun.

Good votes!
 
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#26 :
The Promised Neverland (Cover, Lead Color)
Dr Stone
My Hero Academia
Shinrin Ousha Mori King
Chainsaw Man (Color)
Bone Collection
Haikyu
Act-age (Color)
Time Paradox Ghostwriter
Black Clover
We Never Learn
Mitama Security
Jujutsu Kaisen
Mashle
Undead Unluck
Mission: Yozakura Family
Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san
Guardian of the Witch
Agravity Boys

#27 :
One Piece (Cover, Lead Color)
Haikyu (Color)
Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san (Climax, Color & Big News)
Senran Freaks / Kentarou Hidano (Ziga) x Shun Yabe (Oneshot, Color, 49p)
 
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I'm enjoying my entertainment and what oda has to offer more when wano ends with important key points
This part of the post stuck out to me because it more or less encapsulates how I feel about current one piece. I feel like I'm constantly waiting for the next big plot movement which gives a big payoff, and the arc is just "in the way" of getting there.

i.e. I felt genuinely excited about Luffy's bounty going up at the end of the cake island arc, but the arc itself had me nowhere near as interested. Doflamingo's defeat felt very satisfying, but the arc itself felt stretched and exhausting.

To me OP peaked at MarineFord and everything after it has had me waiting for it to get back to that sort of impact, but it never got back there. Those arcs are still fine (although the fisherman one was a bit...ehh), but nowadays so many characters get thrown in within them that it really makes me question whether or not it couldn't have worked otherwise.

On this matter the reverie felt like a very refreshing time in One Piece, but it didn't last very long. I really do think OP would be fine moving away from the "troubles of the island" format and addressing its plot points more at this point, but that's just my opinion.

With this said though, I don't think OP is a bad manga or anything now, don't get me wrong.
 
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Don't label them "the guy Rain brought up".
I follow them too and they are pretty reliable.
I would trust them over yonko.
Sorry, I'm really not familiar with the workings of anitwitter. I didn't mean for that to sound diminishing towards them.
 

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Undead Unluck oneshot was just scanlated

 

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Jump chapters are out now. Time to see what Undead Unluck’s all about.

After my usual reads.
 

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and Japan is midnight as well.
 

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What a shock, judging a book by it's cover isn't a good idea.

It certainly had a pretty strong start, characters and entertaining and the powers are cool and were used quite creatively. The humour is certainly rather... dark however. Like I'm pretty sure I've never read another wsj manga that essentially ends with a comedy scene of the main guy chasing down the main girl to rape her. The way it played out actually made me laugh but seriously, wow.
 

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What a shock, judging a book by it's cover isn't a good idea.

It certainly had a pretty strong start, characters and entertaining and the powers are cool and were used quite creatively. The humour is certainly rather... dark however. Like I'm pretty sure I've never read another wsj manga that essentially ends with a comedy scene of the main guy chasing down the main girl to rape her. The way it played out actually made me laugh but seriously, wow.
How was judging the book by its cover a bad idea, in this specific case?

Your second paragraph alone proves that the full series contains the things that several of us have been worried about.

Cool premise and likeable characters aside, the finalized chapter still plays off groping and sexually harassing a girl that isn’t consenting for laughs. The cover was right.
 

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I can see Undead being well received on Japan, since the pacing was actually good and most people within the target public probably don't see a problem with the jokes. For me the 'jokes' were too much and I'll probably be passing on it.
As for the other new series (including the one with ~20 chapters), sadly I feel more and more uninterested by them. Mitama is the one that interest me the most but I feel like the author has some problems on doing impactful scenes and expressions and this is starting to hurt my enjoyment of the series.
 

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I don't feel anything from any of the newbies. Not talking about Undead, but the rest. Agravity has had some chapter that made me laugh but keeps having 0 attraction to me, and Mitama since the beginning has been even more unattractive. Situations and reactions keep being the same, and meh, I just can't get to properly enjoy them. ZIPMAN has become one of the most basic series from them all even if it's the only one that's not comedy, and its action and epicness just feels kinda childish. As for Yozakura, am I the only one that gets Samon's vibes from it? As in structure. I feel like I should have never thought about it as an action series, since its main focus for 20 chapters already have been pure episodic comedy. Which is not bad, but eh.

I don't know, I don't see a single one of them sticking. Anyway, good luck for them with sales. If I had to choose two, I'd probably go with Yozakura going the episodic route instead of trying edgy action and Agravity Boys since I have laughed with it a bit more than with Mitama. Such a shame I can see most of them dying while they keep Samurai 8 x d.
 

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I wasn't too impressed with Undead's first chapter. With the oneshot having been translated a bit before the official release, the finalized version was a bit better than that, but not by much. It just feels like you can only take the concept so far before it just gets completely boring, similar to Seiji Tanaka. I still hate the MC's design too
 

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I didn’t hate Undead Unluck but it didn’t really grab me at all either, there were a few jokes here and there that got a chuckle out of me that that’s it.
 

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So Undead opens with a lazy edgy suicide gag, the zombie guy is completely sentient and is open about his enjoyment of sexual assault. The series is built up around the MC constantly having to grope her to keep the plot moving and even laughs off her directly saying she doesn't want it but it doesn't matter because the plot necessitates it.
Not to mention the pacing was completely all over the place.


Also the LOLHESNAKEDSORANDUMBXDXDXD was lazy when Fairy Tail did it and it's still lazy now.

I really really hated it. I'm not going to talk about it anymore. Can't wait for it to be cancelled.
 

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Undead Unluck is a mixed bag for me.

Liked: The artwork and the female character’s design (I preferred the long, flowing hair though she’s cute either way), the special abilities that our protagonists have (complete with detailed explanations), just how unlucky one can get (Reminded me of a certain lucky boy from Danganronpa), the female lead to an extent (Even if it is played for comedy, I can see why she wanted to end herself)

Disliked: Most of the comedy (I think it tried to go for dark humor but it fell flat for me so I’m just uncomfortable), the relationship between the two main leads as a result (male lead comes on kind of too strong to her), the male lead to an extent (though this is mainly due to because of a lack of information about him, which I’m sure we’ll get)
 
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Undead Unluck sure got a decent start, I actually came to sympathize with the FMC with her backstory and her outlook on her own life, and lol at her Naming the dead guy Andy, didnt saw that coming

Regarding the whole sexual harrasment thing everyone has been talking about, while it certainly was there, it wasnt all on your face, which at least didnt took away from the story, tho given it will become a major source of comedy, I can see it getting repetitive to the point isnt funny anymore, hell I’ll Say the funniest bits were when she was bullied by him like swinging her on top of the building

Guess it all depends how the author executes his ideas and see what he’s got
 
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Been toying with rereading Bakuman again so here's a question; Out of the fictional series and oneshots in Bakuman, what are some you think would fit in well and be successful with the current climate of Jump? What are one or two that would not be?

From my memory I think Road Racer Giri, Zombie Gun, Hideout Door, and True Human could do really well right now.
PCP seems like it'd get cancelled quickly right now.
Road Racer Giri & Crows
PCP recived a light novel (that sold pretty well iirc) so there's a chance it might have survived
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

Jigokuraku received a spinoff gag manga



well, that is unexpected
 

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About UxU, I actually liked the idea of the whole Unluck thing and the Undead part was not bad too, it doesn't give answers right away so it makes room for curiosity. It also didn't have a slow start, it went right into the plot in a way. However, I do have some issues with the humor being weak, the groping part is still there and there's so much the author can do before the story gets very repetitive. Also, that ending? No. Yozakura had actually a pretty fun chapter this week but that's mostly because of Sui and his interactions with Taiyou so I hope he is kept in the story for a while longer (well that's if the series doesn't get axed in the near future). Zipman jumped right into another fight and I don't know if that's good or bad yet, but I'm still curious to see what lies ahead. Mitama introducing new stuff to the story like that was unexpected but I appreciate it, still my favourite out of the newbies. I do wish the author tried new expressions on the characters and making things grander, though. Agravity is just boring, nothing much to say.
 

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new serialization round on Jump Plus


1- Jigokuraku spinoff
2- Last Hundred Days till She Dies by Migihara (a web manga from Margert magazine mee app) there are chapters out & you can find translation for this on Mangadex
3- Ohisama Birdie by Daisuke Yui (Yumizuka Iroha wa Tejun ga Daiji!)
4- Teihen Yuchuba ga Uchuu Sensou o Totte Mita by Tsunezou Watanabe (Bye bye Jinrui) and Banai (Cicada) this is the manga that got leaked with the volumes release dates last September
 
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