Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

[mod=Halloween]Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.[/mod]

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[MangAniMY]

and Japan is midnight as well.

 

[lgrmjauffre]

Okay, the first chapter/finalized premise of Undead Unluck is actually pretty damn nice, in my opinion.

 

[tirakai]

What a shock, judging a book by it's cover isn't a good idea.

It certainly had a pretty strong start, characters and entertaining and the powers are cool and were used quite creatively. The humour is certainly rather... dark however. Like I'm pretty sure I've never read another wsj manga that essentially ends with a comedy scene of the main guy chasing down the main girl to rape her. The way it played out actually made me laugh but seriously, wow.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

This has been for me the best chapter of Zipman to date. Very interesting chapter.

I'd say Jujutsu Kaisen has had the strongest chapter this week.

 

[Thores]

What a shock, judging a book by it's cover isn't a good idea.

It certainly had a pretty strong start, characters and entertaining and the powers are cool and were used quite creatively. The humour is certainly rather... dark however. Like I'm pretty sure I've never read another wsj manga that essentially ends with a comedy scene of the main guy chasing down the main girl to rape her. The way it played out actually made me laugh but seriously, wow.

How was judging the book by its cover a bad idea, in this specific case?

Your second paragraph alone proves that the full series contains the things that several of us have been worried about.

Cool premise and likeable characters aside, the finalized chapter still plays off groping and sexually harassing a girl that isn’t consenting for laughs. The cover was right.

 

[4Eyes]

I can see Undead being well received on Japan, since the pacing was actually good and most people within the target public probably don't see a problem with the jokes. For me the 'jokes' were too much and I'll probably be passing on it.
As for the other new series (including the one with ~20 chapters), sadly I feel more and more uninterested by them. Mitama is the one that interest me the most but I feel like the author has some problems on doing impactful scenes and expressions and this is starting to hurt my enjoyment of the series.

 

[RafGL]

I don't feel anything from any of the newbies. Not talking about Undead, but the rest. Agravity has had some chapter that made me laugh but keeps having 0 attraction to me, and Mitama since the beginning has been even more unattractive. Situations and reactions keep being the same, and meh, I just can't get to properly enjoy them. ZIPMAN has become one of the most basic series from them all even if it's the only one that's not comedy, and its action and epicness just feels kinda childish. As for Yozakura, am I the only one that gets Samon's vibes from it? As in structure. I feel like I should have never thought about it as an action series, since its main focus for 20 chapters already have been pure episodic comedy. Which is not bad, but eh.

I don't know, I don't see a single one of them sticking. Anyway, good luck for them with sales. If I had to choose two, I'd probably go with Yozakura going the episodic route instead of trying edgy action and Agravity Boys since I have laughed with it a bit more than with Mitama. Such a shame I can see most of them dying while they keep Samurai 8 x d.

 

[Aipom626]

I wasn't too impressed with Undead's first chapter. With the oneshot having been translated a bit before the official release, the finalized version was a bit better than that, but not by much. It just feels like you can only take the concept so far before it just gets completely boring, similar to Seiji Tanaka. I still hate the MC's design too

 

[Thehoennhippo]

I didn’t hate Undead Unluck but it didn’t really grab me at all either, there were a few jokes here and there that got a chuckle out of me that that’s it.

 

[Rica_Patin]

So Undead opens with a lazy edgy suicide gag, the zombie guy is completely sentient and is open about his enjoyment of sexual assault. The series is built up around the MC constantly having to grope her to keep the plot moving and even laughs off her directly saying she doesn't want it but it doesn't matter because the plot necessitates it.
Not to mention the pacing was completely all over the place.


Also the LOLHESNAKEDSORANDUMBXDXDXD was lazy when Fairy Tail did it and it's still lazy now.

I really really hated it. I'm not going to talk about it anymore. Can't wait for it to be cancelled.

 

[Koni]

Undead Unluck is a mixed bag for me.

Liked: The artwork and the female character’s design (I preferred the long, flowing hair though she’s cute either way), the special abilities that our protagonists have (complete with detailed explanations), just how unlucky one can get (Reminded me of a certain lucky boy from Danganronpa), the female lead to an extent (Even if it is played for comedy, I can see why she wanted to end herself)

Disliked: Most of the comedy (I think it tried to go for dark humor but it fell flat for me so I’m just uncomfortable), the relationship between the two main leads as a result (male lead comes on kind of too strong to her), the male lead to an extent (though this is mainly due to because of a lack of information about him, which I’m sure we’ll get)

 

[Chuck_Atlas]

Undead Unluck sure got a decent start, I actually came to sympathize with the FMC with her backstory and her outlook on her own life, and lol at her Naming the dead guy Andy, didnt saw that coming

Regarding the whole sexual harrasment thing everyone has been talking about, while it certainly was there, it wasnt all on your face, which at least didnt took away from the story, tho given it will become a major source of comedy, I can see it getting repetitive to the point isnt funny anymore, hell I’ll Say the funniest bits were when she was bullied by him like swinging her on top of the building

Guess it all depends how the author executes his ideas and see what he’s got

 

[Mammo]

Been toying with rereading Bakuman again so here's a question; Out of the fictional series and oneshots in Bakuman, what are some you think would fit in well and be successful with the current climate of Jump? What are one or two that would not be?

From my memory I think Road Racer Giri, Zombie Gun, Hideout Door, and True Human could do really well right now.
PCP seems like it'd get cancelled quickly right now.

Road Racer Giri & Crows
PCP recived a light novel (that sold pretty well iirc) so there's a chance it might have survived

--- Double Post Merged, Jan 19, 2020, Original Post Date: Jan 19, 2020 ---

Jigokuraku received a spinoff gag manga

[第1話]じごくらく ～最強の抜け忍 がまんの画眉丸～ - おおはし | 少年ジャンプ＋

<完結済み>ジャンプ＋大人気の忍法浪漫活劇『地獄楽』のスピンオフがついに誕生!!主人公・画眉丸は、泣く子も引くほど我慢に強い超ドＭ…!?その名も「がまんの画眉丸」!!賀来先生も大爆笑の公式スピンオフギャグがついにスタート!! [JC発売中]

shonenjumpplus.com

well, that is unexpected

 

[Ryuusei]

About UxU, I actually liked the idea of the whole Unluck thing and the Undead part was not bad too, it doesn't give answers right away so it makes room for curiosity. It also didn't have a slow start, it went right into the plot in a way. However, I do have some issues with the humor being weak, the groping part is still there and there's so much the author can do before the story gets very repetitive. Also, that ending? No. Yozakura had actually a pretty fun chapter this week but that's mostly because of Sui and his interactions with Taiyou so I hope he is kept in the story for a while longer (well that's if the series doesn't get axed in the near future). Zipman jumped right into another fight and I don't know if that's good or bad yet, but I'm still curious to see what lies ahead. Mitama introducing new stuff to the story like that was unexpected but I appreciate it, still my favourite out of the newbies. I do wish the author tried new expressions on the characters and making things grander, though. Agravity is just boring, nothing much to say.

 

[Mammo]

new serialization round on Jump Plus

少年ジャンプ＋│2020年1月の新連載!!

新連載ぞくぞく公開!! アプリで1話目を読んだらボーナスコインプレゼント！

www.shonenjump.com

1- Jigokuraku spinoff
2- Last Hundred Days till She Dies by Migihara (a web manga from Margert magazine mee app) there are chapters out & you can find translation for this on Mangadex
3- Ohisama Birdie by Daisuke Yui (Yumizuka Iroha wa Tejun ga Daiji!)
4- Teihen Yuchuba ga Uchuu Sensou o Totte Mita by Tsunezou Watanabe (Bye bye Jinrui) and Banai (Cicada) this is the manga that got leaked with the volumes release dates last September

 

[Serinox]

Think I actually prefer the oneshot over the serialization for UxU, so far. Also, the art feels worse - it's somewhat more cartoonish, but that didn't really appeal to me as much as the oneshot.

 

[RafaFedKilla]

Undead Unluck was terrible. Just pure degeneracy.

 

[James Rye]

I expected UxU to be way worse so I ended up liking it quite a bit. What I am more curious about is how the supporting cast of those two will look like, probably more UMAs but also likely that there will be some normal humans in there as well. The goal of an immortal to finally die is not a bad way to keep a story going plus the first chapter already showed ways of how to deal with his immortality by sealing him and it will probably not be the last way of how to fight him. We got the question why the girl got the Unluck ability at 8, who the Undead really was and how he became the way he is now, what other UMAs are out there and ofc if there is not only a way for "Andy" to die but also for the girl to get rid of her Unluck and live a normal life like she always wanted to. Could have done without the boob groping or the "Guess we gotta bang" comment but compared to the one-shot where he was all over her body, this was a bit tamer. But I guess that is his personality the mangaka goes for - a foul-mouthed not caring for tact or common sense Zombie, pardon, Undead.

 

[savethecat]

UxU feels like the Young Jump series Uratarou.
I actually like the female MC and has an interesting premise. Bout it’s all brought down because of the terrible male MC