Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2021] - Discussion and ToC Talk

Predict Sakamoto Days first ToC ranking.


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ToC #7

Dr. Stone (Cover & LCP)
One Piece
Jujutsu Kaisen
Mashle
Black Clover (CP)
My Hero Academia
Sakamoto Days
Me and Roboco
Mission: Yozakura Family
Kemono Jihen (SP/CP/32p) by Aimoto Shou
Vati Lipepe (Oneshot/CP/47p) by Takahata Yuu
Ayakashi Triangle
Build King
Hard-boiled Cop & Dolphin
Undead Unluck
Magu-chan (CP)
High School Family
Phantom Seer
Moriking (END)
Our Blood Oath

Preview Issue #8:
Cover & LCP: Nige Jouzu no Wakagimi by Yusei Matsui (NEW SERIES)
CP: Yoza, Mashle, Oneshot
Absent: One Piece

New Series Schedule
Issue #8: Nige Jouzu no Wakagimi by Yusei Matsui (Supernatural Detective Nougami Neuro; Assassination Classroom)
Issue #9: Ai Terushii by Kazusa Inaoka
Issue #10: Witch WATCH by Kenta Shinohara (Sket Dance; Astra - Lost in Space)
Issue #11: Cron's (or Kowloon's) Ball Parade by Kamata Yuuki (Story) & Fukui Ashibe (Art)



 
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Ouch Phantom Seer...
Also, Shinohara is back! This is not a test! I also wonder if this may draw some ideas from Devil Points.

On another note, almost all the MCs look so innocent and light hearted (Can't judge Aiterushii since there's no face lol). I missed those faces on Jump.
 

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Akutami requesting Shingo Yamashita to make the openings :hip:hip Thank you for being an animation nerd
This OP reminds me of the "we move" memes for some reason lol

TV series will likely continue to look how it does for later seasons, but would be great to see Yamashita helm a JJK movie. Probably a pipe dream tho
 

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remember Nak interview about 2021 when he said Jump will have its biggest manga this year or something like that?

my guess is he must have meant a series from this round, i doubt they already decided on serializing any manga beyond winter back when he did the interview

so which is it? Matsui seems like the very obvious choice to bet on

but then again what if Gotoge return? that seems like the kinda of deal that they would indeed be planning months and months ahead

hmmmm.....
He could have meant stuff from this batch. But as you said; if a veteran like Gotouge was planning a return, I think they’d probably know about those already, even if they don’t have future batches fully prepped
 

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Akutami requesting Shingo Yamashita to make the openings is probably my favorite about the Jujutsu Kaisen anime. Thank you for being an animation nerd
Definitely better than first. On a side not the more I look the more I sure Gege ripped off Nanamin design from Sasaki Isaburou from Gintama
 

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Finally got the time to write my thoughts down, first off, woah Matsui and Shinohara are both back, the former was expected but the latter, I was sure he will stuck to Jump Plus, this a very pleasant surprise, looking forward to what they bring this time.

At last, Moriking got put out of its misery, that was long overdue, feel bad for PS and Magu,still stuck in the bottom, even with a CP.

Build King surprisingly didn’t ended up in the top 5 like other series recently but still is a decent place for now,next week is when it really matters. Looking forward to Sakamoto also ranking as well.

And damn, that JJK opening is very nice, the visuals are out of this world
 

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most excited for Kenta Shinohara's return! sounds like it will be a fantasy based on the title

feel bad for phantom seer, doesn't seem like WSJ is interested in promoting it despite the initial good sales. it genuinely annoys me
 

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most excited for Kenta Shinohara's return! sounds like it will be a fantasy based on the title

feel bad for phantom seer, doesn't seem like WSJ is interested in promoting it despite the initial good sales. it genuinely annoys me
I mean, at best it has passable sales atm. In a more competitive Jump time period(which may be approaching again soon) both PS and Yozakura would have already been axed.
I wouldn’t necessarily say it has “initial good sales”, but it’s sales are solid
 

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What a batch to wake up to. Matsui’s series seems really interesting, looking forward to it. Need to learn more about the rest but they all seem intestine at a glance. Interesting to see the Anonatsu 1959 guy hopped over to Jump, I like his art.

I wonder if we have our romcom and spokon, only time will tell.
 

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I mean, at best it has passable sales atm. In a more competitive Jump time period(which may be approaching again soon) both PS and Yozakura would have already been axed.
I wouldn’t necessarily say it has “initial good sales”, but it’s sales are solid
You're not wrong but considering the first volume sold better than every new 2020 manga except Mashle and Ayakashi, I would expect the editors to want to push it more like giving it a higher placement on ToC. It comes across as if the editors want the series to fail and get rid of it asap despite showing promise
 

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I can't believe I didn't dream this batch up. Four new series in a row? A new sports series, apparently? Matsui back? SHINOHARA BACK? Jump never catered to my feelings that much, it's absurd.
 

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You're not wrong but considering the first volume sold better than every new 2020 manga except Mashle and Ayakashi, I would expect the editors to want to push it more like giving it a higher placement on ToC. It comes across as if the editors want the series to fail and get rid of it asap despite showing promise
The ToC is a good indicator as to what’s doing well and want isn’t doing well when it comes to new series.
However the ToC likely isn’t exactly “Promo”.
Ppl who’re reading the magazine already know what’s in the magazine and what they are and aren’t going to read.
If someone wasn’t reading Phantom Seer in the back of the magazine, they’re not going to suddenly start reading it when it’s in the middle of the magazine.

I would say Color Pages and Covers probably definitely help recapture ppl’s attention. And Phantom Seer has gotten at least 1 color page despite having poor ToC placements. So you can’t fault them there.

Yozakura saw slight growths in both sales and ToC placements despite mostly being in the bottom of the magazine the majority of the time, which suggests ppl who liked it still probably read it in the back of the magazine. So I doubt being in the back really Effects readership all the much.
 

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So Jump still has Bichrome pages. Now I wonder why none of the manga use it anymore.
 

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With Matsui and Shinohara back, gonna make the obligatory “Which other veteran will be back?” Question

I’ll go and say Ohba and Obata, and Kawada (The latter one not probably until late this year or in 2022 tho )
 

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Akutami requesting Shingo Yamashita to make the openings is probably my favorite about the Jujutsu Kaisen anime. Thank you for being an animation nerd
I am now begging Hori to request Yamashita as well from now on.
 

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With Matsui and Shinohara back, gonna make the obligatory “Which other veteran will be back?” Question

I’ll go and say Ohba and Obata, and Kawada (The latter one not probably until late this year or in 2022 tho )
Pretty sure Ohba said during Bakuman that his next work would be his last or something.

I would like Ohba/Obata to come back but please, not another Platinum End.
 

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There has been at least one veteran in each of the last four batches, that's kind of crazy. I kind of hope that the next batch has more of a young blood focus.
 

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So:
-Matsui returns
-Shinohara returns
-Alice to Taiyou author isn't back
-But Invade You author is back. Will he be able to do a Gondaira or will he be axed again?
-And spokon is back in the menu; we are very likely going to have our first baseball manga in decades
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

Confirmed by Ryokutya:
-Matsui manga is going to be an historical tale
-It seems Invade You author is doing a romcom
-Kowloon is a baseball spokon
This is the most interesting batch in a while. Finally, some variety. Jump will have a spokon again, and we’ve also got our romcom. I...really did not like Invade You, but the artist seems to have improved quite a bit since then.

Do we have images of the new series? I think they were posted, but I never got to see.

EDIT: Yep, this batch looks pretty interesting! Can't wait!
 
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It's nice to get a new sports manga again, now to hope it can at least survive a few batches. The last baseball manga in WSJ lasted a whole 10 chapters so it'll definitely do better than that, but I hope it can at least stick around long enough for some sort of new hit sports series if nothing else.
 
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