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- Feb 11, 2011
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Title: What it means to be Devil fruits dependant
There's this phrase going along the lines that "those who incessantly rely on their Devil-fruits are weak". This phrase is ambiguously iterated, and quite often (if not in every case) unfortunately misunderstood. One may ask where such critique comes from and is derived? As I'll say in many situation, all beliefs should be sourced and referenced from the canonical aspect of the story (namely the Manga to avoid controversy ).Definition: Devil fruits are objects which make people more dangerous, not more powerful. Strength will always sit within the body of the individual, advantage will however be on the ability user's side, this is why even weak individuals can appear powerful.
The image above shows Van Augur's dialogue where he explicitly says he thought Devil fruits users were too focused on their abilities, and become weak in the event their abilities were taken away or nullified which we find Blackbeard to be quite proficient at.
We need to understand what Van Augur truly means by the phrase "concentrating too much on Devil fruits ability". Some have interpreted this as meaning: to constantly base your attacks off your Devil fruit abilities, but is this what's being criticized? We'll have to see what Ace did that led up to praises from Van Augur:
- First thing Ace did when he initiated his fight was use a Fire attack (Devil fruits based attack).
- Second thing Ace did after initiation was another Fire attack (Devil fruits based attack).
- Third thing Ace did was ANOTHER Fire attack (Devil fruits based attack).
What then is Van Augur saying? Van Augur isn't condemning the use of Devil fruits abilities as even Blackbeard (and every other Devil fruit user) does, and is doing in this fight, he's saying that Devil fruits users who have no base ability referring to:
- a lack of body strength, speed, and ability to tank are weak and pathetic once their abilities are taken away.
Also, If we're honest, can we name any Devil fruits user who doesn't literally have their attacks literally based off their ability:
- Whitebeard constantly relied on using his Gura Gura no Mi for literally every attack.
- Kizaru has always relied on his Pika Pika no Mi for literally every attack.
- Akainu has always relied on his Magu Magu no Mi for literally every attack (even against the great Whitebeard who almost killed him).
- Marco has always relied on his Devil fruits for literally every attack.
- Joker has always relied on his Ito Ito no Mi for literally every attack.
- Law has always relied on his Ope Ope no Mi for literally every attack.
Associated with neglecting one's own personal strength, this negligence originates from that fact that Devil fruits do not always reflect the strength of a fighter and ultimately make them far more powerful than they'd usually be, which is why they're highly sought after.
For example, Joker's Birdcage is indestructible, but Joker himself isn't indestructible, therefore, this Devil fruits isn't fully reflective of one's own physical power; Luffy on the other hand has an ability, the Gomu Gomu no Mi which stretches further the Stronger he gets, this is an ability that is reflective of Luffy's power.
Not all Devil fruits function like the Gomu Gomu no Mi, so, many Devil fruits tend to make relatively weak individuals strong:
- Crocodile on losing his intangibility was severely hurt by Luffy show-casing how vulnerable he is without his intangibility.
- However, he still managed to make a name for himself in the New World, and even challenged Whitebeard despite not even able to use Haki, his success was mostly due to his Devil fruits.
- Moriah was defeated by Luffy's crew, although, we learnt that he challenged the Yonko after making a name for himself in the New World, had many powerful renowned subordinates and obviously with the Island sized ship, but he made all this progress even without any proficiency with Haki.
- Enel also expressed the same intolerance and vulnerability once it turned out Luffy could lay hands on him.
- Oddly enough, we're told had he been a Pirate in the Grand Line, he'd have earned a bounty of 500m despite not being physically very imposing.This drives the point that abilities can carry one to greatness despite not being particularly powerful in person.
- Bartolomeo's Bari Bari no Mi, it's indestructible while he himself isn't. Strong enough to withstand a King-punch which even a Yonko would fall victim to, and more so if he didn't need an hour to charge it up.
The common denominator is, they all possess incredibly advantageous Devil fruits, therefore, it's conclusive that Devil fruits do make people much more powerful than they ought to be. However, the difference between the really strong and mediocre individual is, the Strong are powerful irregardless of possessing abilities while the mediocre are only strong when there's no compromise to their ability.
What did Rayleigh say concerning unlocking Haki? He said some try and train to learn to use, and NEVER succeed in making use of it. In other words, not everyone is capable of unlocking Haki even if one trains, or attempts to achieve it.
Haki has nothing to do with experience (whether being a 20+ year veteran like Crocodile or Moriah), it's talent. Coby who has little to no experience unlocked it, why? Not because of any experience, simply talent. One must distinguish that there's difference between talent and experience, they're not synonyms. Therefore, it's perfectly reasonable that even the most experienced Pirate wouldn't possess Haki.
Moriah or Crocodile never used Haki even in their most desperate of situations, plots and schemes they'd planned for decades, and had been carrying out, all came to an abrupt halt. If they had Haki, they'd have made us of it. However, limitations will always limit how far one can go, and this is expressed here in their failure to defeat Luffy pre-timeskip.
There's a reason why DFs are sought after, it enables one to become far more dangerous, and appear far more powerful than they'd otherwise be without it.
Nevertheless, this doesn't mean we'd never see Crocodile or Moriah eventually unlock Haki, it'd simply mean they're late bloomers.