Come back to me when your ready to be honest with your fault on your theory 'Zoro will be first or with Luffy to hurt Kaido' when Scabbards just take that way from you this chapter. Same man who couldn't get past Gifters without help is now going to overtake Kaido solo? Again, stopo giving into imagination and be honest for once as we all know Zoro won't participate in fights his Captain can handle. Don't push false narration cause you can't accept Luffy > Zoro in situations like these.
I've reread three times the posts this answers to and there's no mention of Zoro being the first to hurt Kaido. I also didn't find anyone saying Zoro would solo Kaido. I've only seen comments of people saying Zoro can damage Kaido and will probably do so as to help Luffy, just like the Scabbards are doing now, because Luffy can not defeat Kaido 1vs1. Luffy's very likely to end up having a 1vs1 against a wounded Kaido and get the finishing blow in, just like it happened with Doflamingo. Of course "wounded Kaido" doesn't mean "close-to-dead Kaido".
We all know Luffy > Zoro and Zoro getting one cut on Kaido before Kaido is eventually defeated wouldn't make him stronger than Luffy. Oda's narrative is what's definitive on this manga and the narrative will always dictate Luffy to be on top of his crew. Even those who might think Zoro should be stronger than Luffy know that would never be shown to be the case in the actual story.
Not saying I am doubt on Zoro facing YC lvl opponent, but no way I can see him solo one without help on who he face is all. Cause it looks like all Yonkos and YCs will need to be team up on.
Funny you say that right after saying you're rooting for King vs Sanji.
Either way, it's true that King flies and Zoro doesn't, but that has nothing to do with the Pica fight. Zoro has been fighting opponents that move around a lot and even one who used guns from afar and could move threedimensionally at high speeds just as if he was flying: Braham. Zoro's answer to that? Defeating him with a single flying slash and then going on to defeat Ohm.
Pica's fight was "bad" because Pica hid a lot through his DF and he couldn't be tracked through haki. King only flies. A fast flying opponent is harder to hit, which could push Zoro to grow stronger, but it's still an opponent Zoro can follow both with his eyes and haki and that can't hide from him like Pica did, so it wouldn't become "hide and seek", just a hard fight for Zoro to overcome, as his fights used to be most of the time before the timeskip.
I admit Sanji vs King could be entertaining because of the flying ability of both, but narratively-wise, Sanji always takes on an opponent who's just below Zoro's opponent in rank (Mr.2, Jyabura), so I don't know if Zoro and Sanji are going to fight Calamities or members of the Flying Six, but going by how the plot has been so far for almost 1000 chapters, it's highly unlikely Sanji will fight an opponent ranked higher than Zoro's for the finale of the arc. It would truly be the first time.
Of course that doesn't mean it can't happen, Sanji vs King can happen just like Nami vs Queen can happen, it's just not likely. Sanji vs Queen is more likely; although Queen just seems like a boring opponent no matter who fights him.
I'm not sure Zoro will end up fighting King because of how many badasses are on the side of the good characters this time. Kidd and Law need some good fights, especially Kidd, who has never had a full fight in the whole manga, so either all they do is aid Luffy against Kaido, or they get some All-Stars, but it would be a shame if Luffy gets to defeat Kaido and the other two members of the monster trio (Zoro and Sanji) only get to fight Flying 6 members instead of Kaido's top commanders. It would feel like Luffy has a feet on the level of being a real Yonkou (only a feet because he's not soloing Kaido) while his top crewmates aren't really at top YC level.
We will see, for all we know some of the F6 might actually be stronger than some All-Stars and just never had the chance to prove it before. It's not like they were afraid of them.
Agree to Disagree, but that doesn't really remove factor on what I said it's about his skill though. Whether he likes using 3-sword style more as his main or not is irrelevant as how he was taught is to value all the styles and that his skill is important factor on being better in a fight or holding a sword. You can't say he was holding back his power in either of those fights if he choose to defeat his enemies with the other styles than what he usually do. He always go serious in sword fights like those and use his full power in those moments. He is still the same person given his skill, yes he favor 3-sword style, but even without it, Oda pushes he can still beat someone with other 2 styles even with major foes at the time, so there is no difference he loses power or his skill using the others as he still giving his full best with his blades.
Mihawk states he lack skill in his weapons if a knife like his could stop them with ease, not numbers nor design of a weapon, but skill of the user. The weapons don't give you powers, it's you who make them good as they are. It does have something to do with this as it was one of the important lessons in his swordsmanship he was taought on. Being WSS, pretty sure he could do his style just same and outdo Zoro given his skill. Yeah he favor using his own style, but doesn't mean if he switch weapons, it make him lose his edge as long it's a bladed weapon as knife shows he can easily best anyone by his skills in outcome of the fight.
Don't mind going back and forth, but sooner later we going have to stop on this so we don't cloud too much on this topic over this, so let's leave it as that since we already left our mark in Chapter thread today.
Is "sooner or later" when you run out of arguments? If you want to agree to disagree there's nothing I can do about it but it really feels like you ignore everything that's replied and repeat over and over something that's debunked instead of arguing the points that debunked your claims.
Of course it's not about numbers or about the weapons giving you powers and of course it's you who make them good as they are, which is why Zoro is stronger with three than with two, which goes back to the picture I posted of Zoro saying "You don't know the difference between using three swords and using santouryu!"; and he said that precisely when an opponent mocked him saying "we were beating you when you only carried one sword, what difference is two more swords going to make?". A lot of difference, because it's not about the number of the swords, it's about Zoro's skills using three swords being superior to anything else he can pull off.
Zoro's nitoryu is not necessarily stronger than his itoryu, but his santouryu is because that's what he trains the most and what he has consistently used through all of the manga when he wanted to give it his all unless he was missing one sword. And that doesn't mean he's not strong without santouryu; he even showed Pre-TS that he has a "0 Sword Style" that was fairly strong and he could even summon a Tatsumaki with it. Does that mean to you that Zoro's just as strong without swords than with swords?
Zoro lacked skill against Mihawk, obviously, Zoro was much weaker by then, who's arguing agains that? How's that even relevant? Zoro is weaker than Mihawk no matter what style he uses. That's irrelevant. Skill of the user is what's important, that's obvious, but being very skilled with a weapon or in a certain style doesn't mean having the same skill with a different kind of weapon. Zoro's more skilled with santouryu so he's stronger in a fight while using it, that's a proven fact and I have debunked in detail your examples of Ryuuma, Mr.1 and Mihawk's words.
It's also ironic how hard you ignore Zoro has a main style yet you have no problem claiming Kamazo was nerfed against him "because he was using a normal scythe instead of his usual wrist-scythes".
What you're saying is that Sanji would be just as strong and skilled using a sword or throwing punches as he is throwing kicks because "skill is what's important, not the weapon you use", as if it didn't matter what he's more skilled at.
