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Re: Who's the most strongest guy in op ?

Probably Mihawk or Shanks (with 2 arms) would be the strongest NORMAL character.
 

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Re: Who's the most strongest guy in op ?

What about Whitebeard? I dunno if you can count him normal, but he doesn't use any techniques or powers besides his physical strength.
 

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Re: Who's the most strongest guy in op ?

But Whitebeard is like a giant, look at his size, giants are stronger than normal people:p
 

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Re: Who's the most strongest guy in op ?

It's been stated that he isn't a giant, just a really big human, like Moria and Kuma and those three guys in the Franky Family. Therefore, even if he's big, he's just a human. And his size doesn't automatically mean he's stronger than everyone else, since Luffy and Sanji have both beaten up larger then normal humans before too. (Moria and Jerry)
 

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Re: Who's the most strongest guy in op ?

fine normal sized people >_>


and Whitebeard has that giant thing in his mouth>_> that must mean something
 

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Re: Who's the most strongest guy in op ?

What about Whitebeard? I dunno if you can count him normal, but he doesn't use any techniques or powers besides his physical strength.

hmm, so ur some kind of close friend to oda? how the .... can u know that whitebeard dont have any powers? -_- of course he has powers, if his powers is just being strong and giant then in just would have been ridicoulus. It is a reason why he's one of the most wanted persons in the world...

well, for the strongest person in op it would be Monkey D. Dragon. Im sure it's a reason why he's the WORLDS most wanted criminal. And im pretty sure he cant controle the weather.. it's just some random move from Oda-sama to get us, readers to belive that this is his ability.
 

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Re: Who's the most strongest guy in op ?

how the .... can u know that whitebeard dont have any powers? -_- of course he has powers, if his powers is just being strong and giant then in just would have been ridicoulus.
Not rediculous. Badass.

At his introduction it said he was the strongest man in the world. So he is. The question is, in what aspect?
 

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Re: Who's the most strongest guy in op ?

Who’s the most strongest guy in One Piece is Monkey D. Dragon and the second strongest in my book is unknown. :)
 

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Whitebeard - Strongest Man in the World?

Arguments for and against WB being the strongest fighter in OP

FOR:
-Because Oda says so
-Buggy also mentioned that WB was the strongest, and pirates shit their pants just hearing his name
-Only man ever to have fought equally with Gol D Roger, the late Pirate King
-WG summoned all 7 Shichibukai and all 3 Admirals just to fight him..kinda shows his power and how highly the WG rate him doesn’t it?

AGAINST:
-Hes old
-‘Strongest’ doesn’t mean best fighter..it means largest biceps apparently according to some people (I mean why would Oda give a title to the guy with the biggest muscles? This is a body building contest..)

So have I missed anything for against? Because I've see a lot of people dismissing WB as just a sickly old man .. and this makes me really sad : (
 
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Re: Whitebeard Strongest in the World?

WB is not the strongest. The only argument people have for WB being the "strongest" is an infobox, but infoboxes show titles, not facts. The world dubs WB as the "strongest" because he tied with the Pirate King 22+ yrs. ago. The person who is heavily implied to be the "strongest" is Blackbeard. Shanks, in particular, disagrees with WB being the most powerful fighter in the world. Shanks states that BB will come and defeat WB right after he says that Ace can't defeat him. Add to that the fact that BB now has the world's strongest DF and Shanks doesn't even know about it.

On a side note, BB is obviously going to be the final villain, and it would be extremely lame for BB to not be the strongest because Luffy is guaranteed to gain the title of "Strongest fighter in the world" right around the same time he obtains the title of "Pirate King".
 

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Re: Whitebeard Strongest in the World?

Shanks states that BB will come and defeat WB right after he says that Ace can't defeat him.
Noticed how you used the word 'will', and not can. Because thats in the future. Right now, WB is still the strongest. If you can't trust the word of Oda, then don't read his manga.

If hes called the Strongest Man, then he is the Strongest man. I don't see you doubting Mihawk's title just becauase Zoro is destined to beat him too.
 

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Re: Whitebeard Strongest in the World?

Noticed how you used the word 'will', and not can. Because thats in the future. Right now, WB is still the strongest. If you can't trust the word of Oda, then don't read his manga.

If hes called the Strongest Man, then he is the Strongest man. I don't see you doubting Mihawk's title just becauase Zoro is destined to beat him too.
WB is known as the strongest, but that doesn't automatically mean he is the actual strongest. "Strongest figher in the world" is a title bestowed upon WB long before we learned about BB's actual strength, but the problem is that no one (except Shanks) knew about BB at the time. Shanks knows what he's talking about. He is the highest tier. BB not only inflicted cosmetic damage to Shanks, but mental damage as well; Shanks is very weary of BB.

You can't compare the situation with Mihawk to WB because we have no reason to doubt Mihawk's title as we do with WB. We know BB outfought a Yonkou ten years ago. BB 10 years ago = far weaker than BB now. He ate a super DF. A DF of the strongest type but special even to them. He even became a Shichibukai despite having a 0 bounty (they're supposed to scare pirates you know) and he's the guy who is sure to be the final villain. We have every reason to believe that it's actually BB is who on top of the world right now.
 

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Re: Whitebeard Strongest in the World?

We have every reason to believe that it's actually BB is who on top of the world right now.
If he is, he has no reason to hide behind the WG as a Shichibukai. If he really was the strongest, he would not fear the wrath of WB, in fact he would sail straight up to him and kill him.

No, I have no doubt that BB is not the strongest right now. He is strong, yes, but not enough to beat WB.

title as we do with WB.
We have no reason to doubt it. Just because hes old? Welll Mihawk seems much younger. WHy don't you argue taht Mihawk is too inexperienced to be the strongest swordsman, or that Shanks was able to fight equally with him as reasons why Mihawk cannot possibly be the strongest? WB is the strongest, there is no question. Or else why would teh WG be so afraid of him?
 

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Re: Whitebeard Strongest in the World?

Want my arguement of why Whitebeard is the strongest? His crew is the strongest. I'm not going to go off Oda's flashcard or comparing fights of slightly related pirates and marines, but the impression Whitebeard gives to the world in general is that he is the strongest. Heck, in a 1v1 fight against other Yonkou, Admirals or a couple of the stronger Shichibukai he might lose given his current age or other factors which always affect battles when least expected.

But a few things say to the world that Whitebeard is the strongest:
* Drake believing provoking Whitebeard is equal to starting a war.
* That the WG believe that 7 Shichibukai are needed to take him on.
* That he is known to be the man closest to the One Piece.
* That he fought Roger (almost?) equally back in the day.

So though you may say I'm confusing the strength of his crew with the strength of Whitebeard, I say strength is decided not by one man, but by his reputation.

Besides, strength is really vague. Are you stronger if you can punch through diamond or if you can make raw strength ineffectual by having a broken Logia?
 

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Re: Whitebeard Strongest in the World?

After 2 Weeks Im finally back, I know no-one cares about that xD paradox good job in finding this thread.

I will go with WB as the current strongest (in term of fighting), who would win everyone in a fair 1vs1 fight. His title was given by ODA by fading in a infobox. The purpose of this infobox is to give information about the character. Its similar to datebooks, which gives informations about characters which in some cases won't be shown in the manga. Its not like some character talked about WB and stated him as the strongest, like with Jimbei of being the strongest Shichi. No rumour, no legend, no myth it is clear fact stated by Oda himself. If u deny Oda then stop reading OP.


Want my arguement of why Whitebeard is the strongest? His crew is the strongest. I'm not going to go off Oda's flashcard or comparing fights of slightly related pirates and marines, but the impression Whitebeard gives to the world in general is that he is the strongest. Heck, in a 1v1 fight against other Yonkou, Admirals or a couple of the stronger Shichibukai he might lose given his current age or other factors which always affect battles when least expected.
Oda, the guy who created One Piece stated him as the strongest by a infobox, despite his age and illness. Do you think, Oda didn't know that he drew him old and ill looking? Why do u think WB wasn't seen in action so far? Probably he is going to draw many other strong character in action then he is going to come up with a ultimate fighting style for WB fitting for his title.

Besides, strength is really vague. Are you stronger if you can punch through diamond or if you can make raw strength ineffectual by having a broken Logia?
I interpret strong in term of overall fighting power. Means the one who is stated as the strongest has the best rates in factors like brutal strength, experience, speed, weapon (DF) etc. This factors are determining the outcome of a fight So "strongest" is not only restricted to brutal strength.

IF "strongest" is only restricted to brutal strength, then Mihawk is not the best swordsman, which makes Zoros efforts total worthless. .. so simple!

WB is known as the strongest, but that doesn't automatically mean he is the actual strongest. "Strongest figher in the world" is a title bestowed upon WB long before we learned about BB's actual strength, but the problem is that no one (except Shanks) knew about BB at the time. Shanks knows what he's talking about. He is the highest tier. BB not only inflicted cosmetic damage to Shanks, but mental damage as well; Shanks is very weary of BB.

You can't compare the situation with Mihawk to WB because we have no reason to doubt Mihawk's title as we do with WB. We know BB outfought a Yonkou ten years ago. BB 10 years ago = far weaker than BB now. He ate a super DF. A DF of the strongest type but special even to them. He even became a Shichibukai despite having a 0 bounty (they're supposed to scare pirates you know) and he's the guy who is sure to be the final villain. We have every reason to believe that it's actually BB is who on top of the world right now.
As for BB, he will be probably the ultimate villain in this story and eventually take WBs position. But that is in the future, we are obviously talking about the present. WB was stated as the strongest after BB left his crew, so he had already his darkness fruit. Again, it was a infobox, it doesn't matter if he didn't showed his ability or not.

IF WB would have been introduced as the strongest before BB left his crew, then we could talk of he being the strongest or not. But there is a clear time difference. Basically we can only doubt his title, if sth major should change.. like a big power up for BB, Shanks or any other Character. But since WBs introductions nothing was shown, his title is still valid.
 

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Re: Who's the most strongest guy in op ?

Who’s the most strongest guy in One Piece is Monkey D. Dragon and the second strongest in my book is unknown. :)
Try again, Oda himself said it was Whitebeard.

*edited. Also, "Most Strongest" the isn't right way to say it, it's just Strongest.
 

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Re: Who's the most strongest guy in op ?

Of course it's Whitebeard, it's not like he gets challenged three times daily you know? If he has had to seriously fight since Roger died and he got himself 16 division captains such as Ace, do you think he has really fought anyone difficult lately?

I think Blackbeard WILL (emphasised) be the strongest in One Piece when Whitebeard falls...which is soon by my guesses. I guess it'll start to get vague when he's out of the way. I expect people such as Shanks, Aokoji and Dragon to all be contenders for that top spot...
 

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Re: Who's the most strongest guy in op ?

as far i know

1. whitebeard the strongest currently
2. Mihawk is stronger then shanks, else shanks would be the strongest swordsman in the world, but its mihawk ( but shanks has a super powerfull pirate crew, mihawk is alone.
3. sengoku, even higher rank then admiral. ( so you can leave the admirals out , since sengoku is stronger then any of them. )
4. blackbeard potentional is to become stronger then whitebeard, but right now he is not strong enough , so you can leave him out for now aswell, i gues he is on the powerlevel of a admiral atm.
5. monkey d dragon worlds worst criminal and leader of a organization, doesnt say anything about his ''power' ( same as croc) but since we didnt see anything, i would say unknown

so the powerlevels in person are

1.Whitebeard,
2.Mihawk/sengoku
3. shanks one of the 2 other younko or perhaps monkey d dragon
4. admirals / blackbeard, unknown warlords (maybe aswell smoker by now ^^ )
 

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Re: Who's the most strongest guy in op ?

I can't believe there is a 15 page discussion about this. How many ppl skipped this page?

If Oda says he is the strongest then he is, 'till there is a known major power change in the OP world. We have a WB thread, if some1 wants to discuss that further feel free to post, I will defiantly read and answer.
 

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Re: Who's the most strongest guy in op ?

Whitebeard is atm the World Strongest Man "recognized". Oda put that up to show his strength rather then to indicate that he's the undisputed nr 1. If he's got that title just cause he fought Roger evenly over 22+ y ago then the real question is his current strength since I highly doubt he's as fit as he was in his prime with all those tubes in him (cause of the wound that Roger gave him?). If you ask me he's holding to that title more cause nobody is challenging him. . There could be other people like Blackbeard just hiding in the shadows waiting for there moment that are superior to him.

as far i know


2. Mihawk is stronger then shanks, else shanks would be the strongest swordsman in the world, but its mihawk ( but shanks has a super powerfull pirate crew, mihawk is alone.

so the powerlevels in person are

1.Whitebeard,
2.Mihawk/sengoku
3. shanks one of the 2 other younko or perhaps monkey d dragon
4. admirals / blackbeard, unknown warlords (maybe aswell smoker by now ^^ )
I think you clearly have never read or participated some serious Mihawks debates. Beeing the world strongest swordsman doesn't make you nr 2 automaticly. Nothing states that Shanks has to only use his sword, he can mix some Kenpo like Aoshi did in Kenshin. And if he brings in tomorrow someone with the title of world strongest gunman where are you going to place him? Or world strongest spearman,... Your chart is meaningless since we haven't seen most of them fight... And throwing in Smoker just cause he's logia, then throw in Ace & Enell when you're at it. It shows how biased you are.
 
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