Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[StrangerAtaru]

Well Neuro was approaching it's ending anyway so it's nothing to cry about...it got it's entire tale told in 4 years, I call that a job well done for Matsui.

As for this week...Gintama and Sket Dance rock everything!

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

Good week. The magazine is starting to look congested again now though. Great to see Sket in the top five. Also, Psyren continues to survive. Mago a little low again, but I will blame unranked series for that.

 

[kirimi]

I know this topic was gone and over, and off-topic to boot, but just to explain this to appease Kaiten.Sama.

Here's the other chart. It is a real top ten. There's no doubt. I just don't know what top ten. It most definitely does not represent the top ten in total sales. Even better, it contradicts the top fifty.

Statistics are just numbers. It's what the numbers are hiding that has you confused. The Top 10 chart linked above does indeed list the "Estimated Accumulated Total Sale Number" of 2008 by manga series. The reason why Reborn outranks other series despite its lower per volume sales is easy to understand when you look at how many new volumes of that series was released in 2008 (24 Dec 2007 to 16 Nov 2008, to be precise).

These are all the new volumes released this year for Shueisha titles. (Only listed the Shueisha titles because they're easier to find at the moment.)

One Piece - vol 49-52 (4 volumes)
Naruto - vol 41-44 (4 volumes)
Reborn - vol 18-22 (5 volumes)
Bleach - vol 32-35 (4 volumes)
NANA - vol 19-20 (2 volumes)
Gintama - vol 22-25 (4 volumes)

Reborn released more volumes this year than the other series, so it has an advantage. The popularity of Reborn spiked this year. You think Shueisha's editors didn't push the Reborn volumes out faster to take advantage of that? Not only does Amano-sensei not ever take breaks in the magazine, the tankoubon are remarkably close to the magazine chapters. (Unlike Bleach.)

Lastly, total sales also include books released earlier than this year, so the hype of a series caused by movies or drama tie-ins will boost sales dramatically. (E.g. The Rookies and Nodame drama series did extremely well on TV, which boosted the manga sales. Ditto for the 20th CB and Nana movies.)

 

[Crude]

I'm loving that TOC. Sket is in the top 5! Psyren also looks to be doing better. I'm thinking that Psyren and Mago are probably going through the same thing that happened to Sket. After a while, they'll probably rise quite a lot, though maybe not as high as Sket.

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

I still think Mago is just being brought down by all the unrated new series.

 

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

What does cover alternative mean? Another cover?

 

[Maxy Barnard]

essentially it means it's the colour spread but not REALLY the cover (as all series go on the double issues)

but still it could be something more unusual, like a second cover underneath the all series one or something

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

I can't wait until the cover for 4-5 comes out. I love double issue covers.

 

[Maxy Barnard]

especially as it'll be one of the few times series like asklepios will appear on the covers, so it's always so nice to at least have more than the original cover to play about with in photoshop

or in my case paint.net

 

[kirimi]

Ah, the 4-5 issue cover hasn't been posted yet? ^^ Here's a small one.

Once I get high res scans, I will edit all the issue covers into the first post.

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

Of course Toriko is huge on the cover.

 

[fxu]

Spoiler

 

[Heiji-sama]

Shûeisha, Shônen Jump #04-05 :
Couv :


Bleach :


Sommaire :


Preview :


Pour Shaman King, dans le tome 24 il y aura 2 nouveaux chapitre sur la fight entre Marco et Luchist. Le chapitre #360 sera tout en couleur. Les tomes 26-27 contiendront des chapitres pour completer la fin de la série.

 

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

What does the preview for Naruto say, anyone?

 

[kirimi]

To the right of Naruto's face, running vertically down the page: "Breaking into the 10th Anniversary of Serialisation, front page colour!!"

To the left of Naruto's face, written in the box: "I'll save Konoha Village! Watch me!"

Below Naruto's face, next to Kishimoto-sensei's name: "Naruto arrives in Konoha! Finally, a confrontation with Pain!!"

Below all of that, in big bubbly fonts: "3 new year's gift from Jump to you!! New Year's Gift #1. A cool premium cover for Naruto!"

 

[Kaiten]

I like the new format of the TOC. It's now plainly obvious what's exempt.

 

[GARusashi]

When do the new series' start getting rated?

My bets are on Bokke and Kuroko(Kuroko being closer to Psyren) mid tier and Meistar being on the bottom. More people seem to be enjoying Kuroko than Meistar, butI have no idea how people are receiving Bokke, especially since there's not even a Edited Manga yet.

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

I don't think ALL the series will die. they usually tend to when they are anywhere near the bottom.

 

[Maxy Barnard]

i don't see any of the newbie's dying yet, all three are of a much higher quality than what we've had recently, and asklepios and Love trouble have the regular poor performances against them, even if love trouble sells well

 

[Kaiten]

I'm still having trouble separating Meister and Kuroko. Both are very readable, both are interesting, but not enough has happened to prove anything to me while neither has done anything to prove better than the other. Now I'm not complaining about either, I like both. I'm just waiting for actual game play before making up my mind. Hopefully both get the time to develop.

Lest everyone forget, it has already been announced that Neuro will end in 2009. That could mean November of 2009 but more realistically it will be out with the next round of cuts. With Asklepios already dead that's two 2007/2008 series protected. And I'm not counting ToRa out yet. It's polls may suck but sales have always been good. Could go either way come the spring.