Discussion The Football/Soccer Thread

[KnuckleheadedNinja]

What happened to our defense? Weren't we the same team that kept a clean sheet for like 11 games? Now, every team can score 2 goals on us. Rio been out is not helping either. Damn injuries(and suspension as far as Vidic is concern).

But i think we will still move on. It wouldn't be easy, it will be brutal, but i think we should be able to win.

COME ON MAN U.

 

[Mendes]

Barça on a day yes is a football machine... impressive! Bayern hadnt even 1 goal chance and it was rare to see them with the ball controlled on Barça's midfield

 

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

Bayern looked scared. They gave Barca too much space. Barca vs Chelsea should be a good match.

 

[KnuckleheadedNinja]

Barca just demolished Bayern. Wow, that wasn't expected at all. I was expecting the match up between them to be the best one.

 

[Lelo]

damn Man U, even with some starters out we still should win against Porto. Vidic had some nice headers and Tevez hustled as usual. We got lucky, we really should have lost that game, if Porto didnt mess up and pass the ball to Rooney for that first goal it would have been 1-2. And our defense is just pathetic. Our defense fell apart the last 4 games. So expect Man U to come out strong next game. We havent dominated a game, possession wise, in a while

And what happen to Liverpool, LMAO. Thats just embarrassing. I give props to Chelsea, I had a feeling they would win but not like that. I guess we'll get to see Barca vs Chelsea, unless Liverpool pulls off a miracle and beats Chelsea by 2 or more goals at Stratford, and we all know Liverpool are the Kings of miracles. They've had many last minute goals this year

 

[blai]

WTH HAPPENED TO LIVERPOOL?

>.<

Well if Chelsea could to three goals like THAT yesterday, I bet Liverpool can do four goals like that the 2nd round...

 

[Hayashida]

i bet they can't
Essien says Stevie G smokes crack
wait where was Stevie G????

 

[Lelo]

wow, Ive said this before and Ill say it again, how does Barca score sooooo many damn goals. All the games I watch they have 3-5 goals and its always Messi, Henry and Eto'o who score. Man they are good.

 

[KnuckleheadedNinja]

MACHEDA to the rescue again. Bloody hell we even almost didn't win against Sunderland.

 

[Mendes]

I hope Macheda doesnt play against Porto :O

I thought Liverpool would finally claim the lead of the premier league. I guess they're very serious contenders this year

 

[Lelo]

nice Macheda again. They didnt air that game here, sucks I wish I watched it

 

[KnuckleheadedNinja]

I hope Macheda doesnt play against Porto :O

Ferguson better play him. Sub him in when there is 20 minutes left in the game.

 

[Lohnt]

wow, Ive said this before and Ill say it again, how does Barca score sooooo many damn goals. All the games I watch they have 3-5 goals and its always Messi, Henry and Eto'o who score. Man they are good.

Easy, choose a top five foward from south america, a top 5 from africa and a top five from europe. All 3 have 1 goal per 2 games (Eto having the best which is 3 per 4 games, Messi the worst with 1 in every 2 even though he's priceless) and back them up with some of Spain's above average.

Control of the midfield even for half the game + 3 unmatched forwards with synergy = every goalscoring chance = a goal.

Honestly you have the best of all worlds. The only way could imagine someone surpassing them is based on how much money Real spends next year. With Cristiano, possibly Kaka and someone like Raul/Nistelroy or both, they would probably have an equally destructive offense. But.. not as quick, that's one thing I think Barca have unmatchable. Aside from Torres, there really aren't many forwards that move in synergy that quickly during an attack, maybe Forlan and Aguero, but Atletico has other problems, Lisandro is pretty fast also...

 

[Mendes]

Real's already hit the bull's eye with Robben. Too bad they dont play with wingers/side forwards... yet. I think they will buy CRonaldo at all costs, and maybe another extraordinary forward, but I just don't get why they concede so many goals. Almost every defender they got is top class and they even have superman within the posts

 

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

The defense isn't that good, I mean Cannavaro is past his best, Heinze is a liability, and Pepe isn't exactly in the league of Vidic, Ferdinand, Terry, Puyol, etc.

 

[Mendes]

The defense isn't that good, I mean Cannavaro is past his best, Heinze is a liability, and Pepe isn't exactly in the league of Vidic, Ferdinand, Terry, Puyol, etc.

Maybe, but I at least consider them competent enough to avoid having so much trouble against minor teams. And I personally consider Pepe a great defender. ie, against Valladolid this weekend, they could have Lost that game... Valladolid had so many chances in the 1st half it was scary!

 

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

I haven't seen Pepe play much, but when I have he hasn't played great. Maybe it was just against Liverpool, but in Euro 2008 for Portugal he made some mistakes I think.

 

[Mendes]

But it was because of him we managed to qualify for that Euro. He's our most important piece in the center defense and now he's been playing as defensive midfielder and I dare to say he's the player we have in better shape in our national team... [although that's not saying much, recently]

 

[Imperium]

The PFA player of the year award shortlist is out.

Spoiler

PFA Players' Player of the Year contenders:

Rio Ferdinand - Manchester United
Steven Gerrard - Liverpool
Ryan Giggs - Manchester United
Cristiano Ronaldo - Manchester United
Edwin van der Sar - Manchester United
Nemanja Vidic - Manchester United

PFA Young Player of the Year contenders:

Gabriel Agbonlahor - Aston Villa
Jonny Evans - Manchester United
Stephen Ireland - Manchester City
Aaron Lennon - Tottenham Hotspur
Rafael - Manchester United
Ashley Young - Aston Villa

Gerrard, vidic and rio are understandable. But the rest has to be a joke. RYAN GIGGS! Are they mad? This is not a lifetime achievement award or some award out of nostalgia. He has only had a handful of good games. The rest were only decent. A joke of an inclusion. And whats with van de sar, he has 19 clean sheets but so what? Thats the same as cech and two more than reina. He hardly has to make saves because of the excellent defence in front of him. And were giving nominations for number of clean sheets then why hasnt reina been in the running the past three seasons seeing as he always has a ridiculous amounts of clean sheets and wins the golden gloves? Ronaldo is also ridiculous, he has hardly lit up the league and has been a shadow of himself. There are more deserving players. Like cahill, jagielka, anelka, lampard and alonso. Its bloody ridiculous cahill and jagielka may have been overlooked because they're at everton but lampard? His game has improved so much. his passing, his vision everything has just gone another level, and he still scores stupid amounts of goals from central midfield. Anelka is still the top scorer, and alonso has been amazing.

As for the young player of the year. Evans, rafael? They started 18 league games between them. BETWEEN them. Every other player on that shortlist has started more then both of them put together. How can you judge a young player of the year if they dont even play that much? Im just surprised they didnt put macheda on the list [/sarcasm].

Can someone please tell the PFA to get off united's dick. You would think they are running away with the league. And for god sake this is why they should make these lists much much later into the season. Lets just hope that the FWA has some more sense....Never trust footballers to make rational decisions.

 

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

What? the amount of games doesn't matter, its the quality, Torres shouldn't be in it because he hasn't played huge amounts of games...

Your logic is pretty flawed, it seems someone who plays every match for West Brom must be better than a talented youngster who gets a few matches and appearances for a big team, with world class players.