One Piece Mega Convo Thread, the 1st Chapter

[Wowzers]

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I have two possible answers to "Who opened the gate"
1) Whitebeard had some of his people take over the gateroom. He did this not because he needed to use the gate to get in but because many of their ships will need it to get out. The coating on their ships will get damaged in the battle and damaged coating won't work so they will have to flee the conventional way after the battle.

2) Some of Dragons anti-government forces have infiltrated MHQ and have begun their assigned tasks. They have opened the gate and probably will sabotage the defenses. There will be false orders sent, sowing confusion in the ranks and likely some assassinations as well. There will likely be a spectacular explosion due to them at some point and it will be a distraction at a critical moment.... their actual target: The Tenryubito.

 

[Gcat88]

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@Akainu you are right. OP needs support in the U.S. as well. i want to own all of the manga in both japanesse and english. i realize that wat i said before was stupid.

 

[chess4]

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@Akainu you are right. OP needs support in the U.S. as well. i want to own all of the manga in both japanesse and english. i realize that wat i said before was stupid.

sadly non of the american networks will air one piece or naruto shippuden for that matter

 

[blackking187]

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After reading some post. I want to make clear that there are different manner to gain power.:
1 The power of your devil fruit
2 The control of your devil fruit
3 Human strength mix with weapons
4 Haki but i will leave that for now beacause i don't know enough

So if you look at the admirals you posses all three they have dv the have mastered them and they are strong. If you look at crocodile,moria and the lightning dude they had the dv and were good in using them but had no strenght thats why luffy beat them.

For people that are saying that bb is not at his top or he is so strong only of his dv
He has the dv en the strength but i believe that he is not in full control over his dv. Only the power of his devil fruit camouflage that.

I also think that allies will make luffy in the new world fearless, and also in the fisherman's arc we will get a new nakama and see the sh in action with their power up. But that will be at least over a year for sure.

I do not know why but i have a feeling that kidd or law will be a younkou or a shichibukai in the future but their loyalty will be at luffy.

I have also a feeling that when the sh's will arrive in the new world they will have a lot of respect.

Any thought?

 

[Gcat88]

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The SH will arrive in the new world with a lot of respect but at the same time a lot to prove. i dont doubt that we will see quiet a few pirates tellin them u must show me how strong you are, nor do i doubt old ppl comin back. Also another thing is that the admiral's have fruits that make sense being more powerful. a lot can beat Sand but not that much can beat Ice, and barely anything can beat Light. Law and Kidd will show up again but not as shiki!!!

 

[kai-uchiha]

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hey guy's a quick question:
does the fact that whitebeards ships appeared from beneath the water mean that he had asistence from rayleigh in coating them?????

 

[chitgoks]

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hey guy's a quick question:
does the fact that whitebeards ships appeared from beneath the water mean that he had asistence from rayleigh in coating them?????

doubt it. rayleigh's not the only one who can coat ships. it just so happens that octo guy know rayleigh's good with coating so he recommended him to the strawhats

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I don't know about blackbeard not yonkou level he gave shanks that scar and shanks even go's to wb to talk about it.

Blackbeard may to have a small crew so they can be outnumbered for sure but in a 1-1 situation he is strong.

a scar is just a scar. it would be crap if anyone who fights shanks cant even scratch him because he's yonkou level. and it hasnt been told yet how his fight with bb before happened.

shanks was just concerned with ace going after bb because he knew ace couldnt beat bb

 

[Black Lagoon]

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Hmm, I had a thought and I didn't want to post it in the latest prediction/discussion since it might be something that's not revealed any time soon, but:

In the latest chapter the gates were opened allowing the Jailbreak League access to Marineford.

Now, in the spoilers, when released, it was stated that Whitebeard opened the gates and all these ships turned up. I mistakingly assumed the ships came through the gate, and thought nothing more of it.

After reading the chapter a couple of times though, it's pretty evident that the Jailbreak League is the only ship that passes through the gates since Whitebeard's allies did not appear anywhere near the gates or Luffy's commandeered ship.

So my long winded point is this:

• Did Whitebeard open the gate? Why would he do that for Luffy, whom I doubt he knew was coming.
• If not Whitebeard, who and for what reason?
• Am I reading too much into this?

Honestly speaking, I'd prefer to believe that the gates were opened by someone other than Whitebeard. Blackbeard having a hand in it would be interesting, and Luffy and co. getting through was just an accident. I'd also prefer it not to be Blackbeard at the same time though, always nice to see another face in the mix of things and for Blackbeard's shaking to be nowhere near related to Whitebeard.

Agree.
I'm confused too, if Whitebeard's allies didn't appear or didn't pass through the gates how the hell could Ace see them, beside if WB is the one who opened the gates that means he took the control over the room of control and the gates will still open...

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

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hey guy's a quick question:
does the fact that whitebeards ships appeared from beneath the water mean that he had asistence from rayleigh in coating them?????

The WB' ships must have been coated at the Fishman Island - to go from NW to first part of GL - and not at the Shabondy Archipelago. Then, it is likely that Rayleigh did nothing for WB' ships.

 

[Raysen_ht]

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Hmm, I had a thought and I didn't want to post it in the latest prediction/discussion since it might be something that's not revealed any time soon, but:

In the latest chapter the gates were opened allowing the Jailbreak League access to Marineford.

Now, in the spoilers, when released, it was stated that Whitebeard opened the gates and all these ships turned up. I mistakingly assumed the ships came through the gate, and thought nothing more of it.

After reading the chapter a couple of times though, it's pretty evident that the Jailbreak League is the only ship that passes through the gates since Whitebeard's allies did not appear anywhere near the gates or Luffy's commandeered ship.

So my long winded point is this:

• Did Whitebeard open the gate? Why would he do that for Luffy, whom I doubt he knew was coming.
• If not Whitebeard, who and for what reason?
• Am I reading too much into this?

Honestly speaking, I'd prefer to believe that the gates were opened by someone other than Whitebeard. Blackbeard having a hand in it would be interesting, and Luffy and co. getting through was just an accident. I'd also prefer it not to be Blackbeard at the same time though, always nice to see another face in the mix of things and for Blackbeard's shaking to be nowhere near related to Whitebeard.

I have a theory on this...

Imo it was Vegapunk/Reylegh... I think that Kuma is working for Vegapunk and not for the WG, i believe that, on Shabondy, Kuma told Rey about Ace beeing Roger´s son, and because of that Rey has infiltrated the MH... imo he was the one who opened the gates.

Even if that wasnt what Kuma told him, im sure he will eventually show up in this war... there is little doubt in me that Rey will protect Roger´s son with his own life!

 

[Gcat88]

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i doubt it was anything like ppl r saying.

 

[uekipheonix]

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Well I have a bit of a worry.

Now we know that WB is a very strong man since he was the rival of Roger n all. But now he is rather OLD and in this Huge battle he might even become the 1st main character in OP to die out, making room for the other pirates to be the pirate king.

 

[LDSaint]

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I believe WB is like rayeliegh he is soo strong but he has lost abit of strength die to his old age. Yet he unlike Ray-san is able to deffeat an admiral.

 

[Tsukisama]

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How is it that we all assume that Raleigh is still in archipelago AY!. He could have been captured by Kizaru or even killed by Kizaru AY!. I mean, I don't see him just saying "well the straw hats are gone so I will be taking my leave Kizaru AY!" and Kizaru saying "OK, I see no reason for bringing you in, your just the first mate of the legendary Pirate King AY!." AY!. There is absolutely no way that situation could have been good for Raleigh AY!. The only way I could see him escaping is if Kuma transported him out of there AY!. Otherwise he is on his way to Impel Down and gets there like "What The Fuck" AY!.

Well, story-wise it makes the most sense for someone to be guarding the Strawhats' ship, and the best someone for that is Rayleigh. Could he possibly be captured? Sure, but I don't think he is. He was a fairly powerful opponent, who wouldn't have been taken down easily. Since the Strawhat pirates (esp. Luffy) were Kizaru's targets, he may have decided to not pursue Rayleigh if he tried to escape.

I suppose I have confidence in the epic legend of the Dark King, but I agree that it is logical to think that a normal person in the face of an admiral and an army to back him up would definitely be captured.

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

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Even if Kizaru wanted to capture Rayleigh, it is still possible that Rayleigh managed to escape. From what we have seen, Rayleigh is able to catch up the Admiral's high speed.
Personally, I think that the battle between the Admiral and the Dark King did not end up. Indeed, the Ki Zaru we can see in the latest chapters is totally in good health. Then, it means he cannot have fought to death with the Dark King (besides, we are not even sure Ki Zaru can defeat Rayleigh).
There is two possibilities : either Rayleigh escape on his own, either Ki Zaru let him go (after all, MHQ cannot deal with two legends at the same time and has to keep his troops - and especially an admiral - for WB).

 

[blackking187]

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What also is possible but i would we funny, is hat kuma hit rayleigh with his pawn and the hit his self then after some hours hit rayleigh back after talking about the current situation.

Think about it is possible?
LoL

 

[LDSaint]

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IMO rayleigh wasn't captures or defeated. He couldn't hav been. Once the SH were defeated he could hav ran away. Kizaru didn't hav an army with him the only other person with him was axe guy and we all no that he cnt take Ray San on so all he'd hav to do was to run. Nd how would him being captured or killed help PDA and the strory line?

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

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And we must add the fact that two days after the fight with Ki Zaru, Sentoumarou and the PX, Luffy looked at Rayleigh's vivrecard and it was totally normal. Then, he had not been beat.

 

[Gcat88]

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The Dark King wont be captured that easily!!!

 

[bittman]

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The main reason I don't believe Rayleigh is captured is because of story progression:

I mean, can you imagine Luffy, after doing whatever he's about to do, sitting in Shabondy next door to Marineford while Rayleigh has to coat the ship for a couple of days? It's not exactly a "safe zone".

So yeah, Rayleigh should escape if only so Luffy doesn't have to sit around for 3 days doing nothing.