Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[Kaiten]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.3

Again, the comparison is with Kagijin and Akaboshi. Like To Love Ru, Medaka is targeting an older audience. The degree doesn't matter but Medaka does have considerably more fanservice then anything in Jump other then Ane Doki. If it comes down to Kagijin and Akaboshi, which appeal to a middle school demographic that is only represented by Jump, or Medaka Box with potential appeal to a demographic that Jump does very poorly with, Medaka Box will survive. The fact is that there are three to four (if Waji truly is doing poorly) series that are struggling. If the editors were to save one, Medaka is the only one that makes sense from a business perspective.

Don't forget: Kentaro was already a well known mangaka when he started ToRa. That probably was why it started in the middle.

 

[ZoddGuts]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.3

Don't see Medaka having a higher chance of being saved than any other series that is doing badly heck is lower than Akaboshi ranking wise now. Guess well see when the first volume comes out if it's really worth saving sales wise.

 

[Galactic Tomahawk]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.3

Despite my personal thoughts on Medaka, if all/most of these end up doing badly it really does make the most sense to keep around from Jump's perspective.

Especially with To Love gone.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.3

I think we have to be little bit more patient about which one is going to be out next. I think at least four (Medaka, Akaboshi, Kagijin, Wajimania) out of two might have a chance to survive because fall series line-up wasn't really good. The fall series weren't really good since 1999, after Naruto. So, I think the new fall series might save some bottom 5 series.

Even Hunter x Hunter did return on October, I think other series going to be safe because Golden Future Cup series take up at least 40 pages, that is almost two series worth amount, so I think there is still one more space for Hunter to go in.

 

[Galactic Tomahawk]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.3

Yeah it's still a bit early to really talk about most of these in certain terms.

I think Akaboshi and maybe Kagijin are doomed, but for several of them it could still go pretty much any way.

 

[ruggia]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.3

Medaka hitting rock bottom is pretty tough......
i think its first time i've ever saw it go below akaboshi.

the new series are disappointing.... no news of Komi yet i guess.
hopefully WSJ only cut Waji, Akaboshi, Kagijin.... and don't lay hands on Medaka.

Psyren's safe for now right? it hit bottom 5 again, but it was mostly safe for past few weeks. it would suck if it get cut at this point. i don't think it is doing worse than Medaka or Akaboshi.

EDIT: just read the one shot for the new series. its pretty generic plot. i don't see any future for it.

 

[Estranho]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.3

I like Akaboshi. A flame of hope born inside me with this week ToC and to know that only ToLoveRu is out for now. Akaboshi can raise step by step until the next cut...

 

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.3

Are one-shots like Medaka and Kagijin and this new one serialized because of there popularity as one-shots? I wonder because they seem to not do well once they are serialized. I think for the most part Jump seriailzes them because the mangaka failed once before and they might have a better chance than a newbie.

 

[Rejuvenation]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.3

Don't see Medaka having a higher chance of being saved than any other series that is doing badly heck is lower than Akaboshi ranking wise now. Guess well see when the first volume comes out if it's really worth saving sales wise.

Depends on how you look at it. Collectively, it has an overall higher rank than Akaboshi. Even Kuroko had fallen below To Love Ru, Medaka, and Akaboshi. Now it is no where to be seen in the bottom 5 atm.

Plus many of Medaka's bottom 5 rankings had it just being one spot away from escaping it until recently. Where as Akaboshi has solidly stayed in the bottom since the first ranking ranking.

As long as a series has time and hasn't been completely abandoned by people, it gives the chance for them to pull themselves up.

Anyway, I guess the struggling series have until the start of the 2010 calendar year to get their acts together before more cuts come. Or pull off enough sales with their volumes. Not to mention I think these new series are going to be cushion-material for some of them.

 

[Kaiten]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.3

Are one-shots like Medaka and Kagijin and this new one serialized because of there popularity as one-shots? I wonder because they seem to not do well once they are serialized. I think for the most part Jump seriailzes them because the mangaka failed once before and they might have a better chance than a newbie.

One shots are included in the postcards just like any other series. The higher the ratings, the better the chances of the mangaka being serialized. For younger artists they are a way to break into Jump. One Piece, Bleach, D. Gray Man, Naruto, Mago, Beelzebub, and Toriko all began as one shots (to name some recent examples). Sorachi got his start doing two one shots, though chose not to serialize either. Of the five one shots from this years Golden Cup the most popular is guaranteed serialization. Mago and Beelzebub were the last two winners, Muddy was runner up in 2007. For older, established artists one shots are a way of trying out new ideas, gauging ideas, or writing something they'd never want serialized. Aimoto's one shot that is getting serialization was probably the most popular of the spring Akamaru one shots, that's why it is getting serialized now.

Read Bakuman for more details. There is a significant amount of time dedicated to the subject. And it's a must read series.

 

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.3

Didn't Kuroko no Basket win some kind of contest also?

 

[Negative Syndicate]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.3

Didn't Kuroko no Basket win some kind of contest also?

No, Kuroko's one shot was posted on Akamaru Jump.

In change of subject, I think 2009 was like kind of major plow for Shonen Jump. Eyeshield21, Neuro, and To Love-Ru finished, and D.Gray-man moved to Jump SQ. I'm thinking that Jump is trying to change to new generations, leaving some mega hits series, like One Piece, Naruto, etc.

 

[Kaiten]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.3

Didn't Kuroko no Basket win some kind of contest also?

The mangaka of Meister did a one shot called FC Barcelona. I believe it was the runner up in last years Golden Cup. Could be wrong about that.

This year did seem a bit like a changing of the guard. It was mostly the middle of the TOC that turned over but it left a lot of room for new series to establush themselves.

 

[Majin_Reid]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.3

Hello~ I have some scans that I did of issues 12, 25, and 37.38 from this year WITH the spines. Enjoy~

Moderator Notice:
Added - Thanks!~~~ Kaiten.Sama

 

[ruggia]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.3

Since Lilienthal is a gag manga (i saw the oneshot. didin't even bother to read it, but its here if anyone is interested: http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/details/34658)
doesn't that mean Waji is going to be canceled for sure? (since Inumaru seems to be more successful).
i mean there must be some limit to the amount of gag manga there can be in WSJ, unless it happened before too... i think there's 4 gag manga right now (Kochi, Jaguar, Inumaru, Waji)... not sure what hettappi is, but if its gag, it makes 5 gag manga in WSJ. if Lilienthal joins, that makes 6....thats like 1/4 of the entire WSJ, and i don't think i would want that....

Kochi is gag right? i know it looks more like comedy/slice-of-life series, but the endlessness makes me want to label it as gag.

 

[Koshi_Inaba]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.3

Since Lilienthal is a gag manga (i saw the oneshot. didin't even bother to read it, but its here if anyone is interested: http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/details/34658)
doesn't that mean Waji is going to be canceled for sure? (since Inumaru seems to be more successful).
i mean there must be some limit to the amount of gag manga there can be in WSJ, unless it happened before too... i think there's 4 gag manga right now (Kochi, Jaguar, Inumaru, Waji)... not sure what hettappi is, but if its gag, it makes 5 gag manga in WSJ. if Lilienthal joins, that makes 6....thats like 1/4 of the entire WSJ, and i don't think i would want that....

Kochi is gag right? i know it looks more like comedy/slice-of-life series, but the endlessness makes me want to label it as gag.

No mistake there, kochi is gag alright. One of the most the successful I might add.

 

[StrangerAtaru]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.3

There are no guarantees at this time regarding anything leaving. As it stands, aside from the end of the Future Cup, D.Gray moving and To-Love ending, everything else stays put for the time being. If anything (whether Medaka, Akaboshi, Kagijin, Wagi or anything else) is leaving, it probably won't be until we get to the end of the 2009 issue year. (besides, with Wagi having such a short page count, it could take time to accumulate enough for a volume akin to a Jaguar)

Oh, and KochiKame...well it's a gag combined with slice-of-life...but weirder. (oh and quick promo: I started TLing the series in serious now, though probably will be going back and forth with Kinnikuman)

 

[Googlez_kun]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.3

why did naruto get the cover when bakuman has its first anniversairy
i don't mind because i like naruto,but it's kind of not fair....

 

[riki]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.3

I found this on 2ch's DGM Anime (hopefully I posted in the right thread ):

361 ：名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。：2009/08/25(火) 03:46:12 ID:FQtt+qHQ
451 名前:ななし製作委員会[sage] 投稿日:2009/08/18(火) 23:25:35 ID:nORCgpAM
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ﾄﾘｺ､ｽｹｯﾄｱﾆﾒ化企画進行中
遊戯王10周年記念新作ｱﾆﾒ製作
ぶらりひょんの孫ｱﾆﾒ化検討中
ﾊﾞｸﾏﾝ実写化企画進行中
DｸﾞﾚOAD企画進行中

今年中に発表される予定らしい(ぬらり除いて)

Does anyone have more information about this and whether or not this is true? ^^

 

[ruggia]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.3

hmm.... isn't it a bit too early for Nurai to consider an anime adaption? it only has 70 or so chapters....
i guess it might work, but its a bit too early...

and Bakuman live-action? thats interesting, but again, its a bit too early too in my opinion.

and about the second one. is it Yuu Gi Oh again? (sorry, not good with kanji)

i guess we will see by the end of the year.