Who will be next Admiral?

[MiyamotoMusashi]

Would be interesting to see Doflamingo use his power on an admiral, another shichibukai, or a Yonkou, or an established powerful character, and see what happens. I think from there we can see or decide whether VA are strong or not.

He had no problems stopping Jozu, a character that was fighting Kuzan equally and had maybe the most impressive physical power so far in the manga, or he would have had no problems cutting off Crocodile´s head considering that chapter 698 confirmed that he can use CoA with his strings.

 

[M3J]

So regardless of strength, Doflamingo's ability can work on anyone, assuming Jozu is easily above VA? So it's not a totally accurate measure to whether VA or anyone else is strong if they get affected by Doflamingo's ability.

 

[MiyamotoMusashi]

So regardless of strength, Doflamingo's ability can work on anyone, assuming Jozu is easily above VA? So it's not a totally accurate measure to whether VA or anyone else is strong if they get affected by Doflamingo's ability.

It´s actually the other way around. We already know that the VAs are very sturdy and strong fighters but considering how some characters have toyed with them, it is a display of strength for WB, DD and Hancock.

 

[M3J]

I think it's more of a show for the ability htat Doflamingo has, unless he's actually beaten a VA.

It's not possible for Coby to be Fujitora, right? He can't have gotten that strong in two years, even if he did improve a lot from the time between the first arc to the end of Enies Lobby arc.

 

[MiyamotoMusashi]

I think it's more of a show for the ability htat Doflamingo has, unless he's actually beaten a VA.

It's not possible for Coby to be Fujitora, right? He can't have gotten that strong in two years, even if he did improve a lot from the time between the first arc to the end of Enies Lobby arc.

Well, he already has beaten a VA with ease, namely Smoker. Furthermore, he was toying with them but they were still not in a position to do anything against his powers while we have also seen how easily DD cuts limbs, for example against a huge giant like Oars.

Coby is already confirmed as Captain post-TS and it is pretty likely that Fujitora is an Admiral since the epithet is similar to those of the Admirals pre-TS.

 

[kkck]

I don't think the VAs power was ignored as much as it was simply left for later. Vergo was shown to be at least as strong or stronger than good old sanji. That means that each VA equal or stronger than vergo (which should be plenty as vergo is relatively young when compared to other VAs) would be able to walk up to the pre time skip strawhats, get a serious handicap and still murder the lot of them without them having a shred of a chance of fighting back. Sanji is as of now someone capable of taking out pacifista with a single kick and pre time skip strawhats required the combined might of diable jambe, kyotoryu and gear 3 to take down 1 pacifista. Right now the strawhats are in a position where meeting a relevant VA does not necessarily mean unilateral extermination, at most it would be an excruciatingly difficult fight. The VAs are the marine's main fighting force after the admirals, oda is simply not spoiling all the relevant marines from the get go.

 

[M3J]

Well, he already has beaten a VA with ease, namely Smoker. Furthermore, he was toying with them but they were still not in a position to do anything against his powers while we have also seen how easily DD cuts limbs, for example against a huge giant like Oars.

Coby is already confirmed as Captain post-TS and it is pretty likely that Fujitora is an Admiral since the epithet is similar to those of the Admirals pre-TS.

Was it shown how he was able to beat Smoker? It just seems weird Smoekr was defeated so easily.

Oh, cool. I think the blind man could be Fujitora. He seems powerful enough.

 

[MiyamotoMusashi]

Was it shown how he was able to beat Smoker? It just seems weird Smoekr was defeated so easily.

Oh, cool. I think the blind man could be Fujitora. He seems powerful enough.

Why is it weird? It just shows how deadly DD´s fruit is. Smoker even comments that he was pretty much a goner.

Yep + the fact that he resembles Shintaro Katsu, the actor who played Zatoichi, is a strong hint.

 

[Schabrak]

That means that each VA equal or stronger than vergo (which should be plenty as vergo is relatively young when compared to other VAs)

Sanji is as of now someone capable of taking out pacifista with a single kick and pre time skip strawhats required the combined might of diable jambe, kyotoryu and gear 3 to take down 1 pacifista.

To say that all other VA are either equal or stronger is a bit risky, especially since Vergo had real mastery over CoA himself. Blaming it on age with youngsters roaming the new world isn't that smart either Imo.

Those were v1 Pacifista from the war, not v2 from after the TS, we haven't seen yet as Sentomarou mentioned himself at Shaobodi.

There is more than one reasonable explanation for Smokers fast fall: he got beaten up by Vergo just a couple hours ago; DD is just that much stronger/has an advantage; safety of his crew.

 

[kkck]

To say that all other VA are either equal or stronger is a bit risky, especially since Vergo had real mastery over CoA himself. Blaming it on age with youngsters roaming the new world isn't that smart either Imo.

Those were v1 Pacifista from the war, not v2 from after the TS, we haven't seen yet as Sentomarou mentioned himself at Shaobodi.

There is more than one reasonable explanation for Smokers fast fall: he got beaten up by Vergo just a couple hours ago; DD is just that much stronger/has an advantage; safety of his crew.

I didn't say all the VAs were equal or stronger than vergo though, my post is about only those that are actually comparable or stronger. It is true we have yet to see other VAs but an expectation that the first VA we see going all out is not quite the strongest one is not all that far fetched. Age and experience do have something to do with strength to a great extent. Granted there are exceptions to some extent but ultimately people do need the time to reach their potential.

Those being V1 pacifista and there being V2 pacifista is irrelevant though. Pre time skip strength of the strawhats is basically fix and so is the strength of V1 pacifista. One way or another Vergo is effectively capable of defeating the V1 pacifista just as easily as the monster trio at large and by extension any VA comparable or stronger than vergo will be able to do the same.

Smoker was treated and everyone there seemingly had the time to rest and party though. I don't think smoker would have been in as bad a position as you say overall. And even then the fact that doflamingo beat him that easily is still impressive.

 

[EddyBob15]

Well, it's been confirmed that the blind man is Fujitora the admiral. Now the question is who's the last admiral.

 

[HereNThere]

I guess I'll make an insane guess. Remembering the original three Adirmals were based on the Momotaro I looked up some folklore involving tigers. While I didn't find any stories I did find this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nue

I know quite the reach, but what if the new Admirals are based on the parts of this beast? It could quite possibly mean that there are now more than 3 Admirals in the marines and that there is a Snake and a Tanuki named Admiral left. Possibly.

 

[EddyBob15]

I guess I'll make an insane guess. Remembering the original three Adirmals were based on the Momotaro I looked up some folklore involving tigers. While I didn't find any stories I did find this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nue

I know quite the reach, but what if the new Admirals are based on the parts of this beast? It could quite possibly mean that there are now more than 3 Admirals in the marines and that there is a Snake and a Tanuki named Admiral left. Possibly.

Well, since this creature has the head of a monkey, it is possible for it to fit. So that would mean there are four admirals instead of three. The only question is, who will be the remaining two?

 

[kkck]

I like the idea of the nue.... It would be fitting with a number of things right now. With the unfortunate and early loss of aokiji we have that the marines lost an incredibly powerful asset. Men as strong as aokiji should be rare.... With the retirement of sengoku and garp the gap left was enormous as a whole. Now, it is perhaps probable that the marines had another man capable of filling an admiral seat but two? Its unlikely.... with less admirals to run things and deal with particularly dire problems things would get very complicated for the marines. It is very possible akainu saw fit that he would promote 3 extra people to the admiral seat making a total of 4 to make up for the loss of aokiji. Of course that means the remaining two admirals will be themed after a tanuki and a snake... If it is a tanuki then perhaps one of the promoted admirals will be dalmatian? I guess being a dog is not quite as close as being a tanuki though.... Not sure who could be snake if it is someone we know. If there are 3 promoted admirals then I would be very surprised if we don't actually know at least one of them.

 

[Ninomiya]

I no longer question the power of Oda's mind so I'm not going to rule out the possibility of the Next Admiral(s) being Logia users.
But I expect a Paramecia for atm.
Considering Sengoku is a Former Admiral and he is a Mythical Zoan user, it means there are easily more rare and epic Mythical Zoan's or perhaps epic Paramecia's.

 

[kkck]

Well, it does not seem like fujitora is a logia user, quite the opposite, he seems to be a paramecia user. My guess is that oda no longer plans on the new generation of admirals being more varied than the previous one.

So far it seems like fujitora uses a gravity paramecia. If that is the case then I wonder if he was made an admiral due to his fruit being a sort of counter to BB's own darkness fruit. As far as we have been told BB's darkness is actually gravity. In this regard, perhaps fujitora would be ideal to deal with him? I mean, as a gravity manipulator he would be capable of defending against gravity attacks perhaps. Well, BB seems to be able to generate darkness/gravity so to speak from his own body and fujitora seems to be able to create spots where gravity is particularly strong (he made a hole in the ground rather than attracting things to himself) so perhaps he can cancel BB's gravity by carefully placing opposing gravity spots in a battlefield. If there really are 4 admirals now (as the nue thing would suggest if true) then perhaps each admiral is supposed to be a counter to one yonko.... at least the numbers match.

 

[EddyBob15]

How do we know that Fujitora's power is Paramecia? The Dark Dark fruit is Logia and it deals with gravity (albeit not in the same manner). The best way to deduce what his power is is to figure out what power matches his color scheme. Now what power fits the color violet?

 

[kkck]

^Gravity.... none of the other alternatives to purple I know of seem to fit fujitora. I guess he could be a logia and have something similar to what mone and aokiji have going on but I doubt there is a second type of gravity of which fujitora could make use. A gravity paramecia makes the most sense at large.

 

[chess4]

All of the Admirals have been based on characters that Japanese actors have played. Obviously Kizaru and Fujitora are 2 of the admirals and Red Dog is the fleet Admiral. That leaves one more left.

It could be anyone....I have been looking at famous japanese actors from that time period, but its to much. Maybe the other admiral is a female

 

[EddyBob15]

All of the Admirals have been based on characters that Japanese actors have played. Obviously Kizaru and Fujitora are 2 of the admirals and Red Dog is the fleet Admiral. That leaves one more left.

It could be anyone....I have been looking at famous japanese actors from that time period, but its to much. Maybe the other admiral is a female

Uh, if this new group of Admirals is based on the folklore that was mentioned, there could be two more. Who said there could only be three admirals? Still, like you say they are modeled after Japanese actors. We'll just have to wait and see if anymore characters who resemble actors appear.

^Gravity.... none of the other alternatives to purple I know of seem to fit fujitora. I guess he could be a logia and have something similar to what mone and aokiji have going on but I doubt there is a second type of gravity of which fujitora could make use. A gravity paramecia makes the most sense at large.

You do make sense. I guess we'll find out when we see him in a fight and he reveals what his fruit is. Either that or we wait until someone asks Oda.