Crunchyroll is the official release, so it's better evidence to be used than mangastream. Natsu negated all of it. But again, doesn't matter since Cema isn't shown to be heat-based, so even if Melt is larger than Sema, it doesn't mean Natsu was more powerful to tank it. Just that he had the "hax" (ability) to negate it. No point in comparing the two spells.
It was a lot bigger then Cema. And they weren't on a mountain in the first place and they were nowhere near Magnolia's mountains.
Sema is moving at God like speeds and it's a meteor, the have fire around it because of it entering our atmosphere. The force of impact would flatten Natsu. Dragon skin or not, he's still human. He's done. And who knows, Jellal could possibisly drop multiple of them and even bigger.
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Did you not just see the panel? That was a freaking mountain.It was a lot bigger then Cema. And they weren't on a mountain in the first place and they were nowhere near Magnolia's mountains.
Anime does NOT equal manga canon. Really? This is getting ridiculous. Your arguements consist of ignoring manga fact. You havent made a single solid arguement that doesnt negate what has happened in the manga
What are you talking about? You can clearly see they are on top of a flat surface when they find August.
I never said Natsu could negate Sema easiy, and I know its not heat-based. What I've theorized (like @Brandish has) is that Natsu could possibly stop Sema in its tracks with a Flame Dragon King's Roar or Flame Dragon King's Demolition Fist, destroying it with that spell. If Natsu could destroy a huge war god, a meteor which is smaller than the war god should be able to be destroyed as well. And, while it mightn't be easy for Natsu to do it, I still believe he could do it.
Look at where it was cast again. It was on the other side of those mountains, and you can see from the panel @Jko posted, they were well away from the mountains. As for translation sites, Crunchyroll hosts the official translations, so if you're trying to discredit the official translations and say that a website's translations that can't even get character names right is better, then I'm really questioning that right now.
Yeah, it totally moves at "God Speed" when we've seen Laxus's lightning attacks move even faster than that for example. Does that mean laxus's attacks are greater than this "god speed?" The same speed or greater than we've seen people like Natsu have with some of their attacks? I'm not buying the "god speed" thing. Sema moves at a decent pace, but its no "meteor" like Jellal uses. And heck, Natsu could use a FDK's Demolition Fist on the Sema and destroy it. As for Sema's size, there is no evidence of there being more sizes so I think you're just grasping at straws here to try and get Jellal over.
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To be fair, meteor fragments falling on him is better than the whole meteor dropping down on him.
Nah, I think Natsu' roar could block it mid difficulty. I don't see why he'd use his demolition fist as that would cause him to have potentially heavy recoil (though it would look cool). Which is why Jellal would not carelessly cast it against him in a scenario you & @Brandish have reasoned out fairly well. He'd be using things like GC, meteor, heavenly blasts etc. like he's shown to have been in the few fights we see him in before using that spell at the end, like with OS (if he uses it at all). He has no reason to cast it earlier.
August's attack was very small, like Laxus' nuke, and they were been in 10-20km from guild.
Bs someone here tried to prove that Serena cant eat flame bs he didnt eat flame. So, while any body in manga dont say that Natsu burn whole lake - he didnt.
Bear with me as i am trying to follow your logic here...you say Natsu wins right?...what 10 difficulty is in terms of measurement is not quite clear... is this win difficult for him? Is it easy? Please rate it from low to high/extreme difficulty so one can understand your rating at least. Or give a scale like 10/10 and tell us wether 1 is the easiest or hardest. This is simply for simplicity so we know what exactly 10 difficulty means.
Gonna have to agree with @SirSamuel016. Look at the crunchyroll version of those scans you provided. Jet/Droy say the exact words "Hey!! The water in the lake just evaporated".At that point, yes, there was no water. But that was because Natsu's presence was still there. From what I understood, he only evaporated these parts.
Though they may not look exactly the same, the area is quite similar. The water flooded the gap after he was gone. I mean if Natsu really evaporated the whole lake, I'd imagine that it would be so significant that we'd get a quote from somebody saying he actually evaporated the whole lake. Or at least a panel of it...
We'll just disagree here. Anyways, AoE doesn't really matter as his attack potency hasn't been proven to be that high. The fodders surrounding him when he entered the GMG as "The Challenger" was able to survive. Even Lucy...
This logic is a bit flawed. If we take into account how much fighting Natsu had done before he used DF on Mard, it should be pretty obvious that Natsu was low on MP before he used it... Unless Natsu waits until he's near death in this fight to activate it, he isn't gonna only last a few seconds with DF.
"The water in the lake just evaporated." just means that the water evaporated. They could have left out "...in the lake..." and it means the same thing. The fact that it never indicated that all of it or the entire/whole lake evaporated is key to what I'm saying.
Jellal tanked DF Natsu on DF. What makes you think his DF would affect him now if they both gotten stronger?
I was only talking about Natsu's heat when he enters FDKM. It's not even an attack, it's merely his presence.
I write it before, I dont liken "low-mid-high" dif bs people use some kind of supermegaextremehigh dif and same things)))
Did you actually see Jellal take many hits from the OS guys? The answer is no, he was always dodging or blocking the attacks, and as we saw in the Neinhart fight one small explosion took him down. Even if he wasn't focused on defending, it still doesn't look good to get taken out by something small like that.
Sema is Grand Canyon size? I honestly don't think the Grand Canyon is that small, so that size comparison is very inaccurate imo. And August's attack was small? I'm sorry, but how is that small? Look at the thing, it was a huge, wide pillar so I really am failing to see how its small. Its obviously larger than Sema.
Yeah, Jellal totally tanked the mode that defeated him with just a few punches. You seriously believe Jellal tanked DF Natsu when Natsu actually beat him using it? How? Natsu knocked Jellal all around the ToH with ease, he outsped him; Jellal was literally a bit of a ragdoll for most of the part of the fight where Natsu was using Dragon Force. Getting knocked around the entire ToH =/= tanking Dragon Force.
It was like Laxus' nuke. It doesnt small but very smaller than Sema. Sema is meteorite. As I said 50m meteorite can vaporize 1km space. Entirely. If August's spell was even 200m in diameter, Jellal's 50m meteorite will do x9999 times more damage. And his meteorite was bigger than 50m.
Because Sema totally destroyed stuff in a 1km radius when Jellal dropped it on the Oracion Seis. No, I don't think it would be that widespread. Logic in the real world doesn't exactly work in the Fairy Tail universe as it would here, a regular meteor in the real world would level part of a city even if it was small. A magical meteor on the other hand, aka Sema, would not be as destructive as an actual meteor as we saw when Jellal dropped Sema on Oracion Seis. Sema was nowhere near as destructive as what you're implying, and without any evidence of it being able to be any more destructive than that then we shouldn't assume it can be anymore destructive than that.
I just wanted to post the sema pic lol
I'm referring towards the end of the fight where he was getting hit and beat up by CQC and magic. It wasn't a very drawn out fight, as it wasn't a boss battle, but that what we saw could be extended to throughout the fight and Mashima didn't draw it out. I'm not saying his endurance is higher than Natsu by any means, but it's definitely not his weak point.
