Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2015-2016] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Deathinteresse]

the quality in this board really went downhill...
Sesuji wo Pin! was serialized for ~1,5 years (if it gets canceled)
how long withstand your "millstone"-mangas (Stealth Symphony, Tokyo Wonder Boys, Hi-Fi Cluster, Gakkyuu Houtei & Best Blue (maybe even Buddy Strike))

 

[Xzone]

KnB's art was horrible when it started out.

the quality in this board really went downhill...
Sesuji wo Pin! was serialized for ~1,5 years (if it gets canceled)
how long withstand your "millstone"-mangas (Stealth Symphony, Tokyo Wonder Boys, Hi-Fi Cluster, Gakkyuu Houtei & Best Blue (maybe even Buddy Strike))

He's baiting, don't take seriously his "opinion", no one here will say YOKO art was bad(isn't the best, but only reading his previous work you know that isn't bad).

 

[WyldViolet]

Honestly, the past few weeks have really shook up by belief that the majority of the lineup was safe.
We could easily see Toriko, Takuan, Samon, Gintama, Kimetsu, Red Sprite, Love Rush, World Trigger, Saiki and Straighten Up all be over by the end of next year.

2017 is going to be a fascinating year for Jump. The only truly safe series right now are One Piece, My Hero Academia, Haikyuu, Black Clover, Ghost Tits, Isobe, and possibly The Promised Neverland (although I think the pacing is going to need to speed up, if they don't get out of the orphanage by the end of the first volume I could see the rankings collapse (assuming when it begins ranking it will rank very well).

 

[Silverblade]

Editorial department should invite Takayama back to the main magazine.

Like, yesterday.

 

[WyldViolet]

Editorial department should invite Takayama back to the main magazine.

Like, yesterday.

I agree so much.
iShoujo is so good.
I'd really love to see his artstyle put to use in a battle manga.

 

[Silverblade]

I don't know about that, I'd think his gentle art would clash a little with a battle manga look resulting in something dull like World Trigger. Romance and slice of life genre suit him more. But it would be interesting to see him step out of his comfort zone, I suppose. Try adventure, or mystery, maybe.

 

[Xzone]

Although I like WT because Ashihara make a great strategy battles and world building, I agree his art don't click most of times.

Editorial department should invite Takayama back to the main magazine.

Like, yesterday.

Maybe he's very comfortable in I shojo and don't want right now to go Jump.

 

[WyldViolet]

I don't know about that, I'd think his gentle art would clash a little with a battle manga look resulting in something dull like World Trigger. Romance and slice of life genre suit him more. But it would be interesting to see him step out of his comfort zone, I suppose. Try adventure, or mystery, maybe.

Iunno, I thought he was pretty good at drawing motion in iShoujo.
Much better than Ashihara at least.

 

[Ihore]

I see no reason to think Promised Neverland is safe.

 

[SharkBait]

I see no reason to think Promised Neverland is safe.

If it continues to be as repetitive as the last chapter, well I think it will go.

Red sprite seems to most safe, safe yet daring story and very emotional.

 

[Xzone]

Yep. I think Love rush has more chance to survive.
Still, Neverland is the best of this round

 

[ChocoBar9]

*1.　208,539　*,208,539　Boku no Hero Academia Vol.10
*2.　169,648　*,169,648　Shokugeki no Souma Vol.20
*3.　143,333　*,143,333　World Trigger Vol.16
*4.　125,282　*,125,282　Owari no Seraph Vol.12
*5.　110,852　*,110,852　Ten Count Vol.5
*6.　101,366　*,401,939　Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun Vol.8
*7.　*88,086　*,*88,086　Kekkai Sensen: Back 2 Back Vol.2
*8.　*69,314　1,382,617　Shingeki no Kyojin Vol.20
*9.　*67,393　*,520,942　Nanatsu no Taizai Vol.22
10.　*60,284　*,393,431　Terra Formars Vol.18

11.　*58,636　*,*58,636　Junjou Romantica Vol.21
12.　*54,931　*,534,497　Detective Conan Vol.90
13.　*54,762　*,*76,423　Nietzsche-sensei: Conveni ni, Satori Sedai no Shinjin ga Maiorita Vol.6
14.　*49,350　*,*96,569　Kanojo wa Uso wo Aishisugiteru Vol.20
15.　*40,583　*,*78,927　Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka? Vol.5
16.　*37,310　*,299,912　Diamond no Ace Act II Vol.4
17.　*35,541　*,*36,091　Mujaki no Rakuen Vol.10
18.　*33,794　*,480,857　Dungeon Meshi Vol.3
19.　*31,139　*,*31,139　Juuhan Shuttai! Vol.8
20.　*30,245　*,128,586　Vinland Saga Vol.18

21.　*30,019　*,*30,019　Shuumatsu no Harem Vol.1
22.　*29,428　*,*41,482　Aoharu x Kikanjuu Vol.10
23.　*29,060　*,129,572　Akame ga Kill! Vol.14
24.　*28,780　*,*28,780　Kuroko no Basket: Replace Plus Vol.4
25.　*26,748　*,*91,702　Inuyashiki Vol.7
26.　*26,627　*,210,459　Ahiru no Sora Vol.45
27.　*26,529　*,*52,434　Joou no Hana Vol.14
28.　*26,177　*,194,728　Golden Kamuy Vol.8
29.　*25,649　*,*25,649　Fate/stay night: Heaven's Feel Vol.3
30.　*25,531　*,*25,531　Shokugeki no Souma L’etoile Vol.3

About 3 days sales for heroaca up about 10k from vol 9.

 

[DestyNova4th]

2017 is going to be a fascinating year for Jump.

Yeah, I wonder how it will be when reach 2018, its 50th anniversary.

 

[ChocoBar9]

Yeah, I wonder how it will be when reach 2018, its 50th anniversary.

Hope we get something better than J Stars Victory Vs.

 

[chrisbj]

*1.　208,539　*,208,539　Boku no Hero Academia Vol.10
*2.　169,648　*,169,648　Shokugeki no Souma Vol.20
*3.　143,333　*,143,333　World Trigger Vol.16
*4.　125,282　*,125,282　Owari no Seraph Vol.12
*5.　110,852　*,110,852　Ten Count Vol.5
*6.　101,366　*,401,939　Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun Vol.8
*7.　*88,086　*,*88,086　Kekkai Sensen: Back 2 Back Vol.2
*8.　*69,314　1,382,617　Shingeki no Kyojin Vol.20
*9.　*67,393　*,520,942　Nanatsu no Taizai Vol.22
10.　*60,284　*,393,431　Terra Formars Vol.18

11.　*58,636　*,*58,636　Junjou Romantica Vol.21
12.　*54,931　*,534,497　Detective Conan Vol.90
13.　*54,762　*,*76,423　Nietzsche-sensei: Conveni ni, Satori Sedai no Shinjin ga Maiorita Vol.6
14.　*49,350　*,*96,569　Kanojo wa Uso wo Aishisugiteru Vol.20
15.　*40,583　*,*78,927　Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka? Vol.5
16.　*37,310　*,299,912　Diamond no Ace Act II Vol.4
17.　*35,541　*,*36,091　Mujaki no Rakuen Vol.10
18.　*33,794　*,480,857　Dungeon Meshi Vol.3
19.　*31,139　*,*31,139　Juuhan Shuttai! Vol.8
20.　*30,245　*,128,586　Vinland Saga Vol.18

21.　*30,019　*,*30,019　Shuumatsu no Harem Vol.1
22.　*29,428　*,*41,482　Aoharu x Kikanjuu Vol.10
23.　*29,060　*,129,572　Akame ga Kill! Vol.14
24.　*28,780　*,*28,780　Kuroko no Basket: Replace Plus Vol.4
25.　*26,748　*,*91,702　Inuyashiki Vol.7
26.　*26,627　*,210,459　Ahiru no Sora Vol.45
27.　*26,529　*,*52,434　Joou no Hana Vol.14
28.　*26,177　*,194,728　Golden Kamuy Vol.8
29.　*25,649　*,*25,649　Fate/stay night: Heaven's Feel Vol.3
30.　*25,531　*,*25,531　Shokugeki no Souma L’etoile Vol.3

About 3 days sales for heroaca up about 10k from vol 9.

Soma seems to be dropping every volume.....

 

[Xzone]

Soma seems to be dropping every volume.....

Souma at much will have 40 volumes, and at least 30.
I give it 32-38 volume(12-18 more volumes).

 

[TyVip]

Soma seems to be dropping every volume.....

451,804　Shokugeki no Souma Vol.14 released on August 8th, sale count until August 30th, after that it was too low to make the threshold
431,255　Shokugeki no Souma Vol.15 released on Oct 3rd, sale count until Oct 25th, after that it was too low to make the threshold
412,802　Shokugeki no Souma Vol.16 released on Jan 4th, sale was counted until Jan 24th, after that it was too low to make the threshold.
438,226　Shokugeki no Souma Vol.17 released on March 4th, sale was counted until April 3, after that it was too low to make the threshold
378,925　Shokugeki no Souma Vol.18 released on May 2nd, sale was counted until May 22nd, after that it was too low to make the threshold.
387,481　Shokugeki no Souma Vol.19 released on July 4th, sale was counted until July 31st, after that it was too low to make the threshold.


The latest volume had 7 days sale
275,117　Shokugeki no Souma Vol.19 July 4th - July 10th
Compare to 3 days sale (Sep 2nd - Sep 4th)
169,648　Shokugeki no Souma Vol.20
It's not too bad I suppose.

 

[Ihore]

│*19924 (4)│------│------│------│------┃*,*19,924 (**4)┃2014/09｜Zumou 1
│*28864 (6)│------│------│------│------┃*,*28,864 (**6)┃2014/11｜Zumou 2
│*27002 (5)│------│------│------│------┃*,*27,002 (**5)┃2015/02｜Zumou 3
│**Didn't Rank (3)│------│------│------│------┃*,**,Didn't Rank (**3)┃2015/04｜Zumou 4
※ 20,312 Threshold

│*20959 (3)│------│------│------│------┃*,*20,959 (**3)┃2015/07｜Zumou 5
│*21084 (3)│------│------│------│------┃*,*21,084 (**3)┃2015/09｜Zumou 6
│*27070 (5)│------│------│------│------┃*,*27,070 (**5)┃2015/11｜Zumou 7
│*26161 (4)│------│------│------│------┃*,*26,161 (**4)┃2016/02｜Zumou 8
│*31826 (7)│------│------│------│------┃*,*31,826 (**7)┃2016/04｜Zumou 9
│*33465 (7)│------│------│------│------┃*,*33,465 (**7)┃2016/07｜Zumou 10
│*19437 (3)│------│------│------│------┃*,*19,437 (**3)┃2016/09｜Zumou 11

...

 

[WyldViolet]

I see no reason to think Promised Neverland is safe.

It's reception on Japanese web media and the fact that Viz picked up so quickly as a permanent edition to their mag would say otherwise.

 

[jagman1x3]

It's reception on Japanese web media and the fact that Viz picked up so quickly as a permanent edition to their mag would say otherwise.

While I really would like it to not be canceled, Viz picking it up is honestly a reason to be worried at this point given their track record.