Fantasy God Serena VS Queens of Ishgar

God Serena VS Queens


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Participant 1
God Serena with 8 Elements Full powered


Participants 2 in first situation
Mirajane & Minerva


Second Situation



Kagura joins them


Who wins in both situations?
 

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Mirajane and Minerva win around mid or high diff.

Yagdo Rigora looks more powerful than any of God Serena's spells tbh............

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Minerva' magic is a bitch and if Mirajane can sustain Alegria for few minutes then they take the win.


the second situation is one sided for the girls.
 

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Mirajane and Minerva win around mid or high diff.

Yagdo Rigora looks more powerful than any of God Serena's spells tbh............

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As i am the OP i tend to avoid commenting But GMG Erza and Kagura had stopped it with their bare hands and Archenemy.

And you will accept Goddy is stronger than GMG Erza or Kagura.

He took attacks of Jura,Warrod,Wolfheim and Hyberion one after another with no visible damages.And all these mages were stronger than GMG Erza or Kagura.
 
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Serena hits hard and is a tank. You need to register well in those stats, or have immense hax to win.

Minerva has great magic in theory but it didn't seem to do that well against H-Wall. Wall was in base, and he didn't even change the form of his body at all. This makes Minerva look inferior to Historia Serena which is inferior to real GS.

Mirajane could offer a good fight, but tbh she hasn't registered feats that suggest she + Minerva could get it done. It probably doesn't end much differently to the GOI fight, so mid diff or less.

Edit - Adding in Kagura definitely helps, just not sure it's enough to win. Need to keep in mind Serena can spam attacks with decent power. I am sure Kagura's slashes are going to do a lot of damage, and she's fast... just not sure she can add enough to Mira/Minerva to get the win. I'll say Serena high diff.
 
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Goddy can solo all 3 of them, not a stomp but not mid either.
 

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Despite all the hype, God Serena really has no significant durability feats, other than being hit by a few attacks from the GoI.

Mira in Alegria soul has feats of evaporating lakes and causing major destruction. Even the sheer radius of her nukes have AoE damage unseen by most top-class FT mages.

Add in Minerva with hax magic as back-up/support and I don't see how God Serena should logically be able to win this.

In my opinion, God-Bye-Bye doesn't even make it past Scenario 1. Like really...:notrust
 

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Despite all the hype, God Serena really has no significant durability feats, other than being hit by a few attacks from the GoI.

Mira in Alegria soul has feats of evaporating lakes and causing major destruction. Even the sheer radius of her nukes have AoE damage unseen by most top-class FT mages.

Add in Minerva with hax magic as back-up/support and I don't see how God Serena should logically be able to win this.

In my opinion, God-Bye-Bye doesn't even make it past Scenario 1. Like really...:notrust
this is another shit fight because Goi doesent have any feats... even Wendy has superior feats compared to Goi... and is not impressive that God Serena soloes some old farts...

and honestly i dont want to believe that current mirajane or Minerva is above (GMC jellal or Laxus both has always been monsters and trained hard ) but no the powerlevels is destroyed...
 

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God Serena stomp.
There's no way those 3 are stronger than GoD of Ishgar and Jura.
God Serena didn't even used his full power in their first fight.
 

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Despite all the hype, God Serena really has no significant durability feats, other than being hit by a few attacks from the GoI.

Mira in Alegria soul has feats of evaporating lakes and causing major destruction. Even the sheer radius of her nukes have AoE damage unseen by most top-class FT mages.

Add in Minerva with hax magic as back-up/support and I don't see how God Serena should logically be able to win this.

In my opinion, God-Bye-Bye doesn't even make it past Scenario 1. Like really...:notrust
Mira in Alegria Soul didn't evaporate a lake, Natsu was the one who did that. All she did was evaporate a bit of seawater.

Her AoE damage isn't impressive at all either considering the fact that Juliet and Hyhne didn't even take any damage from her nuke.

Minerva's magic is cool but like you said, it's hax, which means it probably wouldn't work on a Spriggan level opponent.

God Serena fodderized the GoI. Do you think Mirajane and Minerva could do the same?

So overall, I'd say that God Serena wins around mid-diff. With Kagura, the fight could probably go either way.
 

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The fact that God Serena has close to no feats only goes to show that he's a monster. He was so much stronger than GoI that the fight was off-panelled (kind of like the August VS OS+Jellal stomp). When the remaining of the fight was shown he tanked hit from GoI easily.

Let's assume that Mirajane is as strong as Hyberion and as haxy, which is reasonnable. Hyberion is supposed to be extremely powerful and even got praised by August. I acknowledge that Mirajane has more feats and is pretty strong and haxy, so i'll put her as equal to Hyberion, for the sake of the discussion.
Then we have to ask ourselves, is Minerva as strong as Jura + Wolfheim + Warrod? There's no way. Minerva didn't show any improvements compared to GMG. Jura either, but Jura was already stronger than Minerva, and got stronger since he climbed all the way to 4th place of the Wizard Saints. Even if we assume that Minerva improved as much as Jura since GMG, she would still lose to him. And even if we assume that Minerva is stronger than Jura, she isn't as strong as Jura + Wolfheim, + Warrod. And Mirajane isn't strong enough to handle Hyberion AND help Minerva.

Imo the GoI who fought GS are stronger than Minerva + Mirajane. EVEN if we assume that they are equal, and that anyway the result of a fight isn't given only by who has the more fire power. That doesn't matter, since God Serena STOMPED GoI who are > than the girls in my eyes.

I'll give this fight to God Serena. It's a shame that we didn't see more from him, aside from what he did as Historia. Also a shame that the GoI didn't fight elsewhere to prove worth the hype and actually gave us mattter to measure each other's strength. But as it is, i don't see Mirajane + Minerva being as strong as GoI, and i most definitely don't see them having a chance versus God Serena.


EDIT: forgot about the second match.
I'm giving GS the first round, about easy-mid diff.
With Kagura, i have no idea actually. It could go either way. I'd say this would be an extreme diff for either team.
 

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Mira in Alegria Soul didn't evaporate a lake, Natsu was the one who did that. All she did was evaporate a bit of seawater.

Oh, look! It's Heine, a subordinate of the strongest female wizard, being amazingly shocked by the magic power of someone else!

Her AoE damage isn't impressive at all either considering the fact that Juliet and Hyhne didn't even take any damage from her nuke.

This nuke would absolute NOT cover Ikasutsunagi and is definitely NOT comparable to Demolition Overrated Fist.

Minerva's magic is cool but like you said, it's hax, which means it probably wouldn't work on a Spriggan level opponent.
Indeed! Territory is absolutely a NLF because it affects humans instead of space! Absolutely true!

 

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I'm going God Serena in round 1, his AoE is great and given that he stomped the GoI I think that warrants him as > Mira and Minerva. Don't get me wrong, the girls have some great feats but beating someone who stomped 4 of Ishgar's greatest mages without using his Dragon Slaying Magic? They're not there yet IMO.

As for round 2, this is much more difficult... I think either team could win in an extreme-diff fight but I'll side with Goddy again, his shown spells all have incredible AoE and power. Given that Minerva was having trouble with HistWahl and Mira had to go all out against two Spriggan subordinates I just can't see Kagura carrying them.

Basically, what @Takuan said.
 

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Scenario one God Serena wins low diff

Scenario two... I'm not sure.
 

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Mira in Alegria Soul didn't evaporate a lake, Natsu was the one who did that. All she did was evaporate a bit of seawater.

Her AoE damage isn't impressive at all either considering the fact that Juliet and Hyhne didn't even take any damage from her nuke.

Minerva's magic is cool but like you said, it's hax, which means it probably wouldn't work on a Spriggan level opponent.

God Serena fodderized the GoI. Do you think Mirajane and Minerva could do the same?

So overall, I'd say that God Serena wins around mid-diff. With Kagura, the fight could probably go either way.

God Serena may have fodderized GoI, but let's all be real here...

The GoI is not a formidable force. They should have been, but the way Mashima wrote them, they were nothing more than 4 Ishgarian wizards.

GoI was nerfed as hell by Mashima. Even though they are supposed to be Ishgar's 4 strongest mages, it's pretty safe to say that they are nowhere close.

GoI was treated as a total joke in this arc and was off-paneled due to poor writing. If Mashima hadn't trolled them so hard, the GoI would have easily 4v1 God Serena.

I don't buy that Hyberion, Wolfheim, and Warrod would lose to God Serena, especially when G. Serena hasn't shown us anything incredible. God Serena's feats are borderline underwhelming.

A couple of basic elemental dragon slaying spells (water, fire, wind, earth)... and he is considered > Mira and Minerva???

Minerva can teleport and control the laws of space while Mira can produce nukes 20x the size of God Serena himself.


As for Mira, she evaporated Sea-water. Salt water (from the sea) is a lot more difficult to evaporate compared to fresh water (from a lake, which is what Natsu evaporated).

And keep in mind that Natsu is a heat-based mage, so that's expected of him.


Idk about you, but that doesn't look like a little bit of sea water to me. That is a long trench worth of salt water. And Mira doesn't even use heat magic.

The mere intensity of her explosion was capable of that feat.
 

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Oh, look! It's Heine, a subordinate of the strongest female wizard, being amazingly shocked by the magic power of someone else!
Oh, look! It's Heine, a magic piece of metal, being amazingly shocked by the magic power of a trump card that lasts a grand total of 15 seconds!



This nuke would absolute NOT cover Ikasutsunagi and is definitely NOT comparable to Demolition Overrated Fist.
No, it wouldn't cover Ikatsutsunagi because you can see Mira RIGHT THERE NEXT TO THE NUKE. And of course it's not comparable to Demo Fist, it didn't even damage Juliet and Hyhne at all.

Indeed! Territory is absolutely a NLF because it affects humans instead of space! Absolutely true!

So I suppose Minerva can essentially use Universe One since Territory affects space and the things inside the space are irrelevant?
 
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This nuke would absolute NOT cover Ikasutsunagi and is definitely NOT comparable to Demolition Overrated Fist.
Mirajane's nuke is nowhere near the size of Ikusatsunagi. Ikusatsunagi towers over everything. This nuke wouldn't even reach his knees. Mirajane's nuke also did no damage to Juliet and Heine, so in no way is it really comparable to demolition fist which can take out Jacob.
 

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Mirajane and Minerva win around mid or high diff.

Yagdo Rigora looks more powerful than any of God Serena's spells tbh............

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HAHAHAHAHA YOU SURE KNOW HOW TO TELL A GOOD JOKE.

OT: Serena wipes the floor with them both rounds.
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Mira is fucking overrated. Mira had to use her full power to take out two lackeys and fully exaghusted her magic power after, and she's the strongest combatant for the female side.
 

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As for Mira, she evaporated Sea-water. Salt water (from the sea) is a lot more difficult to evaporate compared to fresh water (from a lake, which is what Natsu evaporated).

And keep in mind that Natsu is a heat-based mage, so that's expected of him.


Idk about you, but that doesn't look like a little bit of sea water to me. That is a long trench worth of salt water. And Mira doesn't even use heat magic.

The mere intensity of her explosion was capable of that feat.
In terms of volume of water, Mirajane only pushed back the shore a bit. The distance can be measured from Mirajane to the shore line in the first image below. Lake Scilliora is a body of water several times larger. Also, while its true that salt walter has a higher boiling point than freshwater, the difference is only 2 degrees. Water boils at 100 degrees, and seawater boils at 102. That's nothing when we know that Natsu can melt rock and steel, which has its melting points of 1500+ degrees.

Despite all the hype, God Serena really has no significant durability feats, other than being hit by a few attacks from the GoI.
Jura is weaker than any of the Gods of Ishgar, and he has the ability to oneshot Orga. During the Grand Magic Games, he was able to push Laxus to an extreme difficulty fight. During the battle, he was able to consistently knock him off balance with his palm strikes alone. Unless Juliet or Heine individually are more impressive than GMG Laxus, and I doubt they are, God Serena managing to solo 4 mages of Jura's caliber with power to spare is leagues more impressive than Mirajane exhausting herself taking out 2 of Juliet and Heine's.
 
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