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[gnut]

I did ask him why he did not investigate asia after desin died a doc....seemed to me the most obvious

 

[Purity of Magi]

I mean, honestly, I already found him extremely fishy on D3, but couldn't really go much on from there since I was busy hunting on the Demon (reminder: never trust someone with the name 'Demon' in his name xd ) and I did not had any proof at that moment to him expect some suspectness. Now I got him, tho.

Also I saw that Belserion claimed Barekeeper. My mind was a bit blown away, but it could explain a few things that did happen in the game.
Neverthless, let's wait for Lambu results before we do the devil hunt!!! He's the only one that didn't claim anything so for. Oh boy, I can't wait what this dude is going to claim.

I will updat the list:

Roles:

Lovemagi – Day viligante
Hakuteiken – Jesus
Lawlett – Mortician
Panda – Detective
Farfalla – Townie pirate
Kira – Apprentice
Zasz – Santa Claus
Vandred – Mafia Boss
Demonspeed – Mafia escort
Asia Run - Mafia poisoner
Xnut - Hider
Qixus - Politician
Desin - Doctor

Unknown roles:

Erinyes - ??
Holt – ??

What people gave as hints or claim to be:

Aonori – Didn't saw any hints in the previous days (unless I missed it) – claimed to be detective (insane)
SonofDaws – said passive role – claimed to be BP
Gnut – said night role - claimed to be bodyguard
Belserion – said night role - claimed to be Barekeeper
Lambu – said he has faith in his role, can be useful

 

[Lambu]

Just woke up... this night results were fucked up.
I must say this was my fault, I am really sorry, I trusted my sanity and I ended up killing the doctor with that train of thoughts.

There's no point in hiding it anymore as I know of my insanity, I am Spy

I've been claiming it since the very beggining of the game, of course being very careful about it so I wasn't targeted by the mafia.

Now all my investigations:

Night 1 Target: Vandred (because I knew him from the TG section, yep I was random here) >>> he moved on nobody >>> this at least proved me that my role wouldn’t give me a result if there was no move in the first place.

Night 2 Target: lawlett-kun >>> he moved on Erinyes >>> I was like: WTF with my role it can really include dead people (it wasn’t until I knew he was the mortician that I understood this) and when I made my investigation I took into account that this was the only death he could have investigated, so my sanity wasn’t still confirmed (the random thing would simply not happen)

Thats why I asked him about what he did last night here and if his target was a newbie (post #584 , Day 3)

I actually cant believe how you guys make decisions so fast, I dont know how lawlett or Demon "played" in previous games so that could be the reason Im awestruck by your conclusions.

@lawlett-kun did you do something last night? If the answer is yes tell me if it involved a newbie or not.

By the way I have 60%, I dont care about how it works anymore though.

Night 3 Target: desin24 >>> he moved on TsPanda (THIS made me start a hunt on him, if I proved he was the killer then all the other investigations and my sanity would be right.

(#811 , Day 4)

Going to work again, but magi's post cornered Demon clearly. I would like to know @desin24 's thoughts on this.

Votekill Demonspeed and Im not locking because not everyone talked yet.

Night 4 Target: xnut >>> I was blocked... soit made my hopes for my role skyrocket, you know the rest about my train

Night 5 Target: Aonori but got blocked again (I guess there’s no trust on me)

 

[Hakuteiken]

So, simply put, both Aonori and Lambu got blocked tonight?

Who were the people that blocked them, then?

 

[Purity of Magi]

Ikr XD Well, I'm waiting for the others their opinions on Lambu's results tho.
But really how high are the chances that we got two detectives, a spy, and a mortician in a game of 20 players?? I have never seen that in a game before. No, I'm not buying this lol.


Anyway, I will updat the list again:


Roles:

Lovemagi – Day viligante
Hakuteiken – Jesus
Lawlett – Mortician
Panda – Detective
Farfalla – Townie pirate
Kira – Apprentice
Zasz – Santa Claus
Vandred – Mafia Boss
Demonspeed – Mafia escort
Asia Run - Mafia poisoner
Xnut - Hider
Qixus - Politician
Desin - Doctor

Unknown roles:

Erinyes - ??
Holt – ??

What people gave as hints or claim to be:

Aonori – Didn't saw any hints in the previous days (unless I missed it) – claimed to be detective (insane)
SonofDaws – said passive role – claimed to be BP
Gnut – said night role - claimed to be bodyguard
Belserion – said night role - claimed to be Barekeeper
Lambu – said he has faith in his role, can be useful - claimed to be spy

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Wait I'm gonna look into something.. since something popped up my mind.

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Lambu claims with his Spy result on N3 that Desin went for Panda, right?
But... have a look on Desin post result, please.

@Lovemagi

since I will be going to sleep I'll just give you the info. I'm a Doc, either a very lucky insane one or actually sane.
Night 1 Target noone, since I was at work that day and missed the phase.
Night 2 Aonori
Night 3 Gnut
Night 4 Belserion

With demon being dead I'm pretty sure it's mostly the silent ones that need to be suspected. Since none of the deads roles have been exposed the janitor/ the janitors must still be alive since those roles get revealed when the janitor dies.

Because I do not see somewhere that he went for Panda, did he, hm? And Desin is a confirmed doc townie. Hmmmmmm.......

 

[Lambu]

Thats why Im insane magi, I had to prove if he really killed or it was a randomized result.

Im from mobile now, but I've been questioning my sanity since I spilled the beans in Day 1, I said: "I think I know how it works"

Yeah, I fucked up with that post but nobody paid attention to it so I guess I can thank the randomness of D1.

 

[Purity of Magi]

The fact remains that you claim to be blocked twice on N4 and N5. Also, the one claim you made of Lawlett with the Night action could be easily true because Erinyes was the only one that died N1 and he could have investigated her on N2. It's like you are a giving use a post with 'first being insane' then 'being sane' then 'being insane' and then the blocking of the last two nights? I'm sorry, but I find this kinda hard to believe. However, I will not jump conclusions for now. Anyway, I would like to hear the other opinions about this.

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Also, I'm not sure if I even should take into account that there does not exist a insane spy, but rather a paranoid spy.

 

[Hakuteiken]

Night 2 Target: lawlett-kun >>> he moved on Erinyes >>> I was like: WTF with my role it can really include dead people (it wasn’t until I knew he was the mortician that I understood this) and when I made my investigation I took into account that this was the only death he could have investigated, so my sanity wasn’t still confirmed (the random thing would simply not happen)

So, you are claiming the sanity of your role wouldn't be guaranteed, because lawlett could only target one person and the result you got wouldn't be randomized either way.

Sorry, but this part makes no sense to me.
Paranoid Spy does get a random player name as the action result. You are not supposed to have an idea whatsoever about your target's role. If your assumption was right, you'd be getting information on the role of the player you targeted, and this is not what the role of the Spy is.
Let's assume you are a Paranoid Spy and you target me, Jesus, at night. By your logic, you should be getting a blank result, since I cannot possibly target anyone thanks to my passive role, and in that case, Spy and Paranoid Spy are literally inseparable.
By my logic, a Spy should be getting the blank result, while the Paranoid Spy would get a random player name here. Even the role description tells us that a Paranoid Spy's result is a randomized player name. Do we actually have a reason to think it can be [Nobody]? I'm not sure about that part.

So, if you tell me you got a blank on Vandred, and then Erinyes on lawlett, I tend to think you are sane.
But you are basically retconing your own claim by getting panda on desin.

 

[Lambu]

I put my Votelock on Hakuteiken

So, you are claiming the sanity of your role wouldn't be guaranteed, because lawlett could only target one person and the result you got wouldn't be randomized either way.

Sorry, but this part makes no sense to me.
Paranoid Spy does get a random player name as the action result. You are not supposed to have an idea whatsoever about your target's role. If your assumption was right, you'd be getting information on the role of the player you targeted, and this is not what the role of the Spy is.
Let's assume you are a Paranoid Spy and you target me, Jesus, at night. By your logic, you should be getting a blank result, since I cannot possibly target anyone thanks to my passive role, and in that case, Spy and Paranoid Spy are literally inseparable.
By my logic, a Spy should be getting the blank result, while the Paranoid Spy would get a random player name here. Even the role description tells us that a Paranoid Spy's result is a randomized player name. Do we actually have a reason to think it can be [Nobody]? I'm not sure about that part.

So, if you tell me you got a blank on Vandred, and then Erinyes on lawlett, I tend to think you are sane.
But you are basically retconing your own claim by getting panda on desin.

Good reasoning, oh my my...

To my fellow mafia member, just votelock on Hakuteiken to win this game, there's nothing else left to do.

If only magi saved that bullet in his gun and not wasted it with Farfalla

 

[Purity of Magi]

HAHA LAMBU! I LIKE YOU XD

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So the two mafia's are indeed Lambu and Aonori? Since Aonori lied about his results which I showed and so did Lambu which Haku showed lel.

I will just wait for Aonori to come online and see what he wants to tell to me. XD

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@Hakuteiken What should we do? We are the only ones here atm. Should we votekill Lambu or waiting for Aonori reply and the rest to be here? xd

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@gnut Hi gnut xd

 

[gnut]

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Both investigator neglect to mention mafia escort

 

[Hakuteiken]

Ohh, so we are going to lose thanks to my penalty votes now. I like this plot twist.

I see. Since once I'm dead, it's going to be a 3 to 2 Townie majority, and Mafia will only need one more kill.
Ah, and desin's death now ends up dooming the Town, since we don't have a protection role besides Bodyguard, which doesn't matter, anyway.

 

[Purity of Magi]

I see it more like this:

Lambu wants to lynch you with a fellow mafia buddy, right? Since there are 2 mafia's left in the game. You have 3 penaltie votes, with their two votes it's going to be 5 sooner or later. But we are currently with 7 people in game - 2 = 5 townies. We can make a tie and lynch you both if that is going to be the case. So one mafia down - one mafia left. Than we are currently with 5 people left. The last mafia will kill a townie unless someone has a charge left up. 4 people left - 1 = 3 townies vs 1 mafia.

I think xd

 

[Lambu]

I see it more like this:

Lambu wants to lynch you with a fellow mafia buddy, right? Since there are 2 mafia's left in the game. You have 3 penaltie votes, with their two votes it's going to be 5 sooner or later. But we are currently with 7 people in game - 2 = 5 townies. We can make a tie and lynch you both if that is going to be the case. So one mafia down - one mafia left. Than we are currently with 5 people left. The last mafia will kill a townie unless someone has a charge left up. 4 people left - 1 = 3 townies vs 1 mafia.

I think xd

Why are you assuming that? didn't I use plural there? My bad

 

[SonOfDaws]

Lmao wtf? I think that's the first time I've ever seen someone outright admit to being mafia..

 

[Lambu]

Lmao wtf? I think that's the first time I've ever seen someone outright admit to being mafia..

I know right? but since if Haku dies it will be a 3 - 3 at the end of the day the mafia wins regardless.

 

[Purity of Magi]

Lmao wtf? I think that's the first time I've ever seen someone outright admit to being mafia..

You should go to the Magi game and see my post. That is why I like Lambu. He reminded me of myself XD

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@Lambu

Because a mafia game with 20 players have 5 enemies. It's in the game rules. :P
Zasz was a third party, but that is normal to have in game.
3 mafia's are dead (Vandred, Demon, Asia Run) so two mafia's left makes it 5 mafia enemies.

 

[Lambu]

You should go to the Magi game and see my post. That is why I like Lambu. He reminded me of myself XD

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@Lambu

Because a mafia game with 20 players have 5 enemies. It's in the game rules. :P
Zasz was a third party, but that is normal to have in game.
3 mafia's are dead (Vandred, Demon, Asia Run) so two mafia's left makes it 5 mafia enemies.

You couldn't be further from the truth
You know the color name of the mafias killed? revise it and you will get it.

 

[Hakuteiken]

Lmao wtf? I think that's the first time I've ever seen someone outright admit to being mafia..

You obviously never saw my infamous surrender post as a Mafia from way back in time.

Why are you assuming that? didn't I use plural there? My bad

It's my fault, because the OP in this thread is slightly messed up. My name isn't highlighted, so I thought there were 6 remaining players, not 7.
Since there are 7, it's pretty obvious there can't be 2 mafia members in total, anyway. You wouldn't be able to afford to come out in that case. To begin with, you wouldn't be able to lynch me with a 5 to 2 distribution. And even if you did, it'd end up going from 5-2 to 4-2, to 3-2 at night, to 3-1 at day, to 2-1 at night, and to 2-0 Townies in the final day.

So yeah, my bad, misread the OP:

 

[Purity of Magi]

You obviously never saw my infamous surrender post as a Mafia from way back in time.



It's my fault, because the OP in this thread is slightly messed up. My name isn't highlighted, so I thought there were 6 remaining players, not 7.
Since there are 7, it's pretty obvious there can't be 2 mafia members in total, anyway. You wouldn't be able to afford to come out in that case. To begin with, you wouldn't be able to lynch me with a 5 to 2 distribution. And even if you did, it'd end up going from 5-2 to 4-2, to 3-2 at night, to 3-1 at day, to 2-1 at night, and to 2-0 Townies in the final day.

So yeah, my bad, misread the OP:

I think I was the only one that noticed your name wasn't highlighted in the beginning thread lol. That's why I said the remaining players are 7. XD