Discussion Earth Land Mages Rate - THE ULTIMATE POWER RANKING [BIG FINALE + STATISTICS]

[BluePegasus]

STATISTICS

Spoiler: Alakitasia ranking

1). Irene Belserion - 12,200
6). Larcade Dragneel - 10,683
7). DiMaria Yesta - 10,667
9). God Serena - 10,017
11). Brandish μ - 9,533
12). Bloodman - 9,300
15). Invel Yura - 9,117
16). Wall Eehto - 9,017
18). Ajeel Ramal - 8,383
19). Jacob Lessio - 8,183
24). Neinhart - 7,450
Average: 9,504545

Spoiler: Ishgar ranking

2). Natsu Dragneel - 11,750
3). Gildarts Clive - 11,583
4). Laxus Dreyar - 11,167
5). Jellal Fernandes - 11,100
8). Erza Scarlet - 10,083
10). Gray Fullbuster - 9,950
13). Gajeel Redfox - 9,267
14). Sting Eucliffe - 9,233
17). TO Sherria Blendy - 8,850
20). Mard Geer - 8,167
21). Mirajane Strauss - 7,983
22). Precht Gaebolg - 7,917
23). Lucy Heartfilia - 7,733
25). Future Rogue Cheney - 7,383
26). Kagura Mikazuchi - 7,333
27). Wendy Marvell - 7,033
28). Silver Fullbuster - 6,750
29). Minerva Orland - 6,683
30). Kyoka - 6,550
31). Ultear Milkovich - 6,283
32). Rogue Cheney - 6,233
33). Erik “Cobra” - 5,983
34). Macbeth “Midnight” - 5,950
35). Arlock - 5,850
36). Lyon Vastia - 5,067
37). Cana Alberona - 4,867
38). Elfman Strauss - 4,483
Average: 7,82337

The winning continent is..

Spoiler

Alakitasia

Spoiler: Guild ranking

Spriggan Twelve
1). Irene Belserion - 12,200
6). Larcade Dragneel - 10,683
7). DiMaria Yesta - 10,667
9). God Serena - 10,017
11). Brandish μ - 9,533
12). Bloodman - 9,300
15). Invel Yura - 9,117
16). Wall Eehto - 9,017
18). Ajeel Ramal - 8,383
19). Jacob Lessio - 8,183
24). Neinhart - 7,450
Average: 9,504545

Fairy Tail
2). Natsu Dragneel - 11,750
3). Gildarts Clive - 11,583
4). Laxus Dreyar - 11,167
8). Erza Scarlet - 10,083
10). Gray Fullbuster - 9,950
13). Gajeel Redfox - 9,267
21). Mirajane Strauss - 7,983
23). Lucy Heartfilia - 7,733
27). Wendy Marvell - 7,033
37). Cana Alberona - 4,867
38). Elfman Strauss - 4.483
Average: 8,718091

Sabertooth
14). Sting Eucliffe - 9,233
25). Future Rogue Cheney - 7,383
29). Minerva Orland - 6,683
32). Rogue Cheney - 6,233
Average: 7,383

Crime Sorciere
5). Jellal Fernandes - 11,100
31). Ultear Milkovich - 6,283
33). Erik “Cobra" - 5,983
34). Macbeth “Midnight” - 5,950
Average: 7,329

Lamia Scale
17). Sherria Blendy - 8,850
36) Lyon Vastia - 5,067
Average: 6,9585

Mermaid Heel
26). Kagura Mikazuchi - 7,333
Average: 7,333

Tartaros
20). Mard Geer - 8,167
28). Silver Fullbuster - 6,750
30). Kyoka - 6,550
Average: 7,155667

Grimoire Heart
22). Precht Gaebolg - 7,917
Average: 7,917

Avatar
35). Arlock - 5,850
Average: 5,850

(Balam Alliance
20). Mard Geer - 8,167
22). Precht Gaebolg - 7,917
28). Silver Fullbuster - 6,750
30). Kyoka - 6,550
Average: 7,346)

Most 13's
1). Natsu x 11
2). Irene x 10
3). Gildarts x 4
4). Larcade x 2
5). Laxus x 1, DiMaria x 1, Lucy x 1

 

[Gryffindor]

Well that was one heck of a ride, wasn't it? Here is the full list with links to the elimination posts in case anyone ever feels like checking them out again.

[post=4599653] 1) Irene Belserion-12.200[/post]
[post=4599652] 2) Natsu Dragneel-11.750[/post]
[post=4599651] 3) Gildarts Clive-11.583[/post]
[post=4598583] 4) Laxus Dreyar-11.167[/post]
[post=4597382] 5) Jellal Fernandes-11.100[/post]
[post=4597225] 6) Larcade Dragneel-10.683[/post]
[post=4596413] 7) DiMaria Yesta-10.667[/post]
[post=4595925] 8) Erza Scarlet-10.083[/post]
[post=4595453] 9) God Serena-10.017[/post]
[post=4595191] 10) Gray Fullbuster-9.950[/post]
[post=4594738] 11) Brandish µ-9.533[/post]
[post=4593900] 12) Bradman-9.300[/post]
[post=4593439] 13) Gajeel Redfox-9.267[/post]
[post=4593248] 14) Sting Eucliffe-9.233[/post]
[post=4592900] 15) Invel Yura-9.117[/post]
[post=4592813] 16) Wall Eehto-9.017[/post]
[post=4592320] 17) Sherria Blendy-8.850[/post]
[post=4591927] 18) Ajeel Ramal-8.383[/post]
[post=4591726] 19) Jacob Lessio-8.183[/post]
[post=4591475] 20) Mard Geer-8.167[/post]
[post=4591231] 21) Mirajane Strauss-7.983[/post]
[post=4591204] 22) Precht Gaebolg-7.917[/post]
[post=4591058] 23) Lucy Heartfilia-7.733[/post]
[post=4590919] 24) Neinhart-7.450[/post]
[post=4590697] 25) Future Rogue Cheney-7.383[/post]
[post=4590248] 26) Kagura Mikazuchi-7.333[/post]
[post=4590163] 27) Wendy Marvell-7.033[/post]
[post=4589984] 28) Silver Fullbuster-6.750[/post]
[post=4589777] 29) Minerva Orland-6.683[/post]
[post=4589556] 30) Kyoka-6.550[/post]
[post=4589279] 31) Ultear Milkovich-6.283[/post]
[post=4589053] 32) Rogue Cheney-6.233[/post]
[post=4589013] 33) Erik "Cobra"-5.983[/post]
[post=4588937] 34) Macbeth "Midnight"-5.950[/post]
[post=4588113] 35) Arlock-5.850[/post]
[post=4587925] 36) Lyon Vastia-5.067[/post]
[post=4587728] 37) Cana Alberona-4.867[/post]
[post=4587607] 38) Elfman Strauss-4.483[/post]​

 

[Ebony Maw]

Before I end this rate officially, I just want to thank everyone who took part in it.

Thank you to everyone who voted, and even to those who didn't, the discussion in this thread has been incredibly interesting and outright entertaining.

Big thanks to my fellow hosts @BluePegasus, @Emperor Spriggan and @Gryffindor, you guys really upped your game in this rating and it wouldn't have been possible without you. The same goes to @Brandish @DiMaria Yesta @Crescent_jinxgrace @Takuan @~Charging Lightning~ and @Belserion, you all did fantastic posts!

And in general I want to thank the mods for making this run so smoothly, I know for a fact that this thread easily could have turned to chaos without their intervention. In particular I want to thank @Brandish for sticky-ing the thread, this thread wouldn't have been anywhere near as active if it wasn't for you.

I hope everyone enjoyed that the rate, as now....

This poster was made by @Valhalla777, big thanks to him!

THE EARTH LAND MAGES RATE IS OFFICIALLY OVER!​

 

[Woodenstool]

Doesnt matter, God Serena is a water dragon slayer, not an ice dragon slayer. He isnt immune to Gray's ice unless he melts it first.

Did you not read anything I said? Ice and water are the same thing.

 

[Anti Hero 3:16]

I agree. They were terrible. 7DS Natsu/SF Natsu were just the typical BS EoS boost for the MC, and Acno just didn't give a flying f anymore and let everyone in the boonies hit him. A ship a fudging ship? C'mon really?

I like how Acno misses his roar that can actually kill FT when they're right in front of him... Nope he blows up the area behind them.

Everything at the end was stupidly rushed. I can't even describe it lol.

I dont know but in all the shonen manga MC's towards there EOS have some crappy powerups. In naruto it was his son's power. In bleach I even dont know what was that power and in DBZ well it was not any asspull, but after having nearly half a dozen chance to kill majin buu they drag it to end with the spirit bomb business. I guess mangaka have some problem in finishing shonen at the end.

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Did you not read anything I said? Ice and water are the same thing.

How is water and ice the same. Ice is solid whereas water is liquid. When you freeze the water at 0' C, ice is formed. That's basic chemistry.

 

[Woodenstool]

“All I need is the power to be able to protect my comrades. So long as I can have the strength to do that, I don’t care if I’m weaker than everyone in the world.”







“I wonder for how long…how long will I remain anchored at this harbor known as battle?”







“My companions make my heart strong. If I’m fighting for those I love, I care not what happens to this body.”






#8

Erza Scarlet
Score: 10.083
Highest Score: 12 x 4(@~Charging Lightning~, @EmptySoul, @Cosmicstar, @Belserion)
Lowest Score: 7 x 1(@BluePegasus)
My Score: 11/12

Titania, Queen of the Fairies, a character so divisive among the fandom, whose fights strike terror into the hearts of many readers, or so I’ve heard. But to be honest, I personally don’t mind Erza’s fights nor her shtick about friendship to the max. Sure there are moments that leave you a little dizzy for lack of better word, but that’s part of the package when you have a character who is devoted to her comrades with a strong sense of justice. Because of the nature of her fights and inconsistencies that arise, particularly when you consider the events of the final arc, there is bound to be some disagreement, but 8th is a solid position in my opinion.


BEST ARMORS
Requip allows Erza the ability to access many armors and weapons that give her insane flexibility in combat, and despite Erza being able to use magical spells while wearing the armor of her choice, I chose to focus on the armors themselves instead, since the constant cycling of armors Erza has utilized throughout the series is far more present than the utilization of spells.

Robe of Yuen

Amazing design that resembles traditional Asian attire (kimono) with elastic properties.

Wingblade Armor

This armor surrounds Erza with swords that act as a shield while also inflicting damage on the opponent without the need for direct contact.

Wind God Armor

Simply because of the design.

Armadura Fairy

Again, only because of the design.

If I missed your favorite armor, then my bad, here are some more pics:

Spoiler: Erza's Armors

WORST ARMOR
There is only one choice for this category, and it should be painfully obvious.

Clear Heart Clothing
Technically it isn’t an armor, but the repetitive use of Clear Heart in every arc and in every major fight has been disappointing. Mashima has given us some great designs throughout the series, but why he continues to only fixate on Clear Heart for Erza all the time instead of giving us something new is beyond me. I mean, he did give us that Bunny Armor or whatever in the Irene fight, but she still ended the fight in Clear Heart. Erza has hundreds of armors, use something else



BEST FIGHT

Erza Scarlet vs Azuma

The ending aside, I actually liked the fight, since Erza had through cycle through her armors and couldn’t gain any sort of ground against Azuma, plus she was fighting for the sake of the guild, with its members being sapped of strength due to the Tenrou Tree falling. I know she fights for her nakama every fight, but this was the one fight where her victory meant everyone could continue fighting. The fight was an enjoyable read/watch imo, but if you dislike it, I can understand that.

Plus the ending wasn’t that bad now, was it?

Erza Scarlet vs Ajeel Ramal

The first real Spriggan fight of the Alvarez arc, which actually turned out to be one of the best. There was no POF overload, and while both fighters were handicapped in some way or form, the fight was a nice back and forth with Erza getting the best of Ajeel once Marin's restriction was undone, before Ajeel took over the fight with Sand World, where a good display of teamwork allowed Bisca to shoot the Jupiter Cannon at Ajeel where he was then finished off with Nakagami Starlight. None of the scandalous moments we have in the Neinhart, Kyoka, or Irene fights, just a good brawl with teamwork and the villain actually putting in a good performance. Until 521 happened.



WORST FIGHT & WORST MOMENT
As controversial as the Kyoka fight is, I was never really invested in the fight because it was occurring at the same time as things I felt were more interesting, so while the no senses stuff was too much, I was just glad the fight was over. And while I don’t get all that bothered by her POF, this fight down below and that moment were just too egregious for me to not give a crap about.

Erza Scarlet and Wendy Marvell vs. Irene Belserion
&
Destroying Deus Sema

BEST MOMENT

Pandemonium
The anime did this event more justice than the manga did, but nonetheless, this was Erza at her peak. With some of the monsters even said to be Wizard Saint level(back when the title still had some prestige) she goes on to defeat all 100 monsters inside the castle, with Levy giving a rather decent monologue on how Erza created a day that no one would ever forget, pretty fitting moment considering Fairy Tail had become fodder over the 7 year time-skip, this was that statement that said we're back! Not to mention that Erza was a rather famous wizard in the beginning of the series, so it went hand in hand with the rep she had built since becoming S-Class.

BEST RELATIONSHIPS

Erza Scarlet & Jellal Fernandes

Whether you like the ship or not, isn’t really the point. While Erza does like to fanboy good ol’ Natsu, I won’t hold it against her, since everyone else does too. But her relationship with Jellal is like a rollercoaster of emotions, with highs, lows, and everything else in between. Jellal has done good and bad by her, so people will make of it what they will. But anyway, no denying that they share a deep relationship, love it or hate it.

Erza Scarlet & Kagura Mikazuchi

That moment was cringe since it ridicules Kagura in my opinion, but after clearing the air over Simon, Kagura and Erza have adopted the sister dynamic, with Kagura herself asking Erza to be a sister for her. After the GMG, they honestly don’t have much interaction though, they were together in Hargeon but that was overshadowed by the Jellal-Kagura subplot.


Erza Scarlet & Wendy Marvell

Another sister dynamic, Erza was the one who asked Wendy to join Fairy Tail and while they did have some interactions here and there, nothing really developed until the Alvarez Arc, unfortunately their bond was overshadowed by their actions in the war lol.


Overview:
Magic: Requip: The Knight, Sword Magic, Telekinesis
Affiliation: Fairy Tail
Erza Scarlet is out

You see what I mean about Clear Heart, there was too much of it in this post too

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Straight bullshit, bias and corrupt just like that ref who saved Floyd Mayweather in the 9th round when Conor McGregor landed that body shot. "Low blow" my ass.

Erza intercepted both Natsu and END whilst bloodlusted when already fatigued from the war. Then gets all her bones broken but one and destroys a meteor and breaks through Irene's dragon form. Wheres the feats that make Gray or Natsu stronger than her? Tell me please, I'd like to see.

Wheres the Natsu feats? Erza is too fast and strong. But you guys don't read the story.

 

[Reebi]

Did you not read anything I said? Ice and water are the same thing.

Lucy is good example she is just pair off boobs without any personality......Gray is shy gay without a doubt(this is not racism but is real fact)...

... I don't care who gets ranked at this point Heck if Larcade gets to number one I've already pre-vomitted.

 

[Anti Hero 3:16]

Straight bullshit, bias and corrupt just like that ref who saved Floyd Mayweather in the 9th round when Conor McGregor landed that body shot. "Low blow" my ass.

Erza intercepted both Natsu and END whilst bloodlusted when already fatigued from the war. Then gets all her bones broken but one and destroys a meteor and breaks through Irene's dragon form. Wheres the feats that make Gray or Natsu stronger than her? Tell me please, I'd like to see.

Wheres the Natsu feats? Erza is too fast and strong. But you guys don't read the story.

Straight bullshit, bias and corrupt just like that ref who saved Floyd Mayweather in the 9th round when Conor McGregor landed that body shot. "Low blow" my ass.

Erza intercepted both Natsu and END whilst bloodlusted when already fatigued from the war. Then gets all her bones broken but one and destroys a meteor and breaks through Irene's dragon form. Wheres the feats that make Gray or Natsu stronger than her? Tell me please, I'd like to see.

Wheres the Natsu feats? Erza is too fast and strong. But you guys don't read the story.

Oh great now you are comparing this to a boxing match. Next you will compare it with Aj styles vs Kevin owens.

 

[Seven777]

Did you not read anything I said? Ice and water are the same thing.

I read it, and you're wrong. Ice is ice, water is water. If God Serena isnt an Ice Dragon Slayer then he isnt immune to any of Gray's attacks. Dont try to bring in real world science into this particular manga, you'll just make a fool of yourself.

 

[Reebi]

Guys and gals, let's be civil. It's bad enough we are discussing ass-pulls that skew the power rating. We don't need to be at each other's throats.

 

[Gryffindor]

Straight bullshit, bias and corrupt just like that ref who saved Floyd Mayweather in the 9th round when Conor McGregor landed that body shot. "Low blow" my ass.

Erza intercepted both Natsu and END whilst bloodlusted when already fatigued from the war. Then gets all her bones broken but one and destroys a meteor and breaks through Irene's dragon form. Wheres the feats that make Gray or Natsu stronger than her? Tell me please, I'd like to see.

Wheres the Natsu feats? Erza is too fast and strong. But you guys don't read the story.

Umm, what? What does Natsu have to do with the post about Erza. I didn't choose her rank, it's an average of over 30 scores. But you wouldn't know that since you didn't read the first post because it was too "boring". Anyway, don't bother me with this nonsense, next time you want to speak with me ask for permission by raising your hand, and I might feel inclined to call on you. Maybe........probably not.

P.S. I don't care about the boxing match, and he lost, go tell someone who cares.

 

[Woodenstool]

Oh great now you are comparing this to a boxing match. Next you will compare it with Aj styles vs Kevin owens.

You make a good point. So why don't you address the actual argument this time?

 

[Invel > Zeref]

It doesn't make any sense that Erza was eliminated before Jellal when her feats against Acno far surpass him and she has already shown the ability to dispel a more powerful version of one of his stronger spells. He may be faster but that won't matter when she can very well tank everything he throws at her. I don't understand those who disregard her POF feats when POF has always been the basis of her power and removing it would be an even bigger nerf than taking away her requip magic entirely.

 

[Woodenstool]

It doesn't make any sense that Erza was eliminated before Jellal when her feats against Acno far surpass him and she has already shown the ability to dispel a more powerful version of one of his stronger spells. He may be faster but that won't matter when she can very well tank everything he throws at her. I don't understand those who disregard her POF feats when POF has always been the basis of her power and removing it would be an even bigger nerf than taking away her requip magic entirely.

They only count POF with their favorite characters like Natsu but when someone else does it, its an "asspull that shouldn't be counted".

 

[Static]

There isn't a lot of intelligent people reading fairy tailz

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They only count POF with their favorite characters like Natsu but when someone else does it, its an "asspull that shouldn't be counted".

You do realize that Natsu is the most hated character in this forum right, alongside Erza...?

 

[Anti Hero 3:16]

You make a good point. So why don't you address the actual argument this time?

I could address the point if I understand what is to be addressed, erza is eliminated coz her non POF feats were nearly losing to ajeel in a close fight, getting overpowered by foot soldiers though enhanced. The rest were POF. Natsu's non POF feats were walking through time seal as an etherious and destroying her, brandish's magic not working on his tumour (This is his demonic power not his DS magic), oblirating zeref in DF mode, finishing jacob in mid air (though he could not use his hax so not a big feat). Rest of his feats are POF.
Gray's non POF feat was stalemating invel a spriggan in 1vs1 duel in des mode. Then in des rage mode he fought with partial END without losing. That is a big feat. His POF feat was beating invel in base though.
I still think both natsu and gray have better non POF feats than erza. As for jellal he was already ahead of erza, so it is assumed that erza<jellal.
Laxus nearly killed ajeel if not for august barrier. That makes laxus>erza.

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You do realize that Natsu is the most hated character in this forum right, alongside Erza...?

I think he actually is most hated even more than erza. Not blaming anyone with the screentime he got and some wasted fights and non development. He definitely regressed as a character in this arc.

 

[Jko]

Erza above Natsu?

This dude got three S12s

Spoiler

and two god tiers under his belt.

Spoiler

No one is fudging with a full powered Natsu (unless it's Lucy ).

 

[Woodenstool]

I could address the point if I understand what is to be addressed, erza is eliminated coz her non POF feats were nearly losing to ajeel in a close fight, getting overpowered by foot soldiers though enhanced. The rest were POF. Natsu's non POF feats were walking through time seal as an etherious and destroying her, brandish's magic not working on his tumour (This is his demonic power not his DS magic), oblirating zeref in DF mode, finishing jacob in mid air (though he could not use his hax so not a big feat). Rest of his feats are POF.
Gray's non POF feat was stalemating invel a spriggan in 1vs1 duel in des mode. Then in des rage mode he fought with partial END without losing. That is a big feat. His POF feat was beating invel in base though.
I still think both natsu and gray have better non POF feats than erza. As for jellal he was already ahead of erza, so it is assumed that erza<jellal.
Laxus nearly killed ajeel if not for august barrier. That makes laxus>erza.

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I think he actually is most hated even more than erza. Not blaming anyone with the screentime he got and some wasted fights and non development. He definitely regressed as a character in this arc.

That's a bunch of baloney. How can you take out characters feats because you want to? That isn't how it works.

Natsu has no control of his END powers thus he can't access them by himself. And the whole END thing was pof, he saw his best friend about to get stabbed in the eye. The whole Jacob fight was plot bullshit, he fight would've ended hadn't Happy stopped him. But it doesn't end there Natsu lands a demolition fist on
Jacob who was falling and completely defenseless.

Neinhert was stated multiple times to have no combat durability. He told his historias to protect him just like Floyd told the ref to save him. Taking out Neinhart isn't an accomplishment. You can take out points all you like, Natsu in END form and Gray got intercepted by a heavily fatigued Erza. But Erza got pushed over by soldiers so using your logic END and Gray are fodder.

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Erza above Natsu?

This dude got three S12s

Spoiler

and two god tiers under his belt.

Spoiler

No one is fudging with a full powered Natsu (unless it's Lucy ).

All I saw was the main character getting plot armor. Acnologia couldn't even use magic because his body couldn't move. How many times have said Natsu only hits sitting ducks? Hundreds because he has no speed feats to compete.

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Erza above Natsu?

This dude got three S12s

Spoiler

and two god tiers under his belt.

Spoiler

No one is fudging with a full powered Natsu (unless it's Lucy ).

I hope you don't actually think you're right just because some randoms liked your post. You ignore all of Erza's feats with Irene who was the strongest mage of Spriggan 12.

 

[Jko]

That's a bunch of baloney. How can you take out characters feats because you want to? That isn't how it works.

Natsu has no control of his END powers thus he can't access them by himself. And the whole END thing was pof, he saw his best friend about to get stabbed in the eye. The whole Jacob fight was plot bullshit, he fight would've ended hadn't Happy stopped him. But it doesn't end there Natsu lands a demolition fist on
Jacob who was falling and completely defenseless.

Neinhert was stated multiple times to have no combat durability. He told his historias to protect him just like Floyd told the ref to save him. Taking out Neinhart isn't an accomplishment. You can take out points all you like, Natsu in END form and Gray got intercepted by a heavily fatigued Erza. But Erza got pushed over by soldiers so using your logic END and Gray are fodder. God, help this kid.

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All I saw was the main character getting plot armor. Acnologia couldn't even use magic because his body couldn't move. How many times have said Natsu only hits sitting ducks? Hundreds because he has no speed feats to compete.

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I hope you don't actually think you're right just because some randoms liked your post. You ignore all of Erza's feats with Irene who was the strongest mage of Spriggan 12.

So what? Erza's fights were plot as well so was pretty much everyone. And she didn't beat Irene while Natsu no matter how much you don't like it beat Acno and Zeref.

 

[Woodenstool]

So what? Erza's fights were plot as well so was pretty much everyone. And she didn't beat Irene while Natsu no matter how much you don't like it beat Acno and Zeref.

Did you not read anything I posted? Natsu only beat Acnologia because Wendy enchanted all of the dragon slayers magics into him and while Acnologia was unable to move and cast magic. His bodies were also split.

Frezia's trooper shot Goku and almost killed him so does that make him multiversal? Wrong, Erza feats make her stronger while Natsu' doesnt.

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[Jko]

Did you not read anything I posted? Natsu only beat Acnologia because Wendy enchanted all of the dragon slayers magics into him and while Acnologia was unable to move and cast magic. His bodies were also split.

Frezia's trooper shot Goku and almost killed him so does that make him multiversal? Wrong, Erza feats make her stronger while Natsu' doesnt.

And he made their power into his own. Wendy helped Erza against Irene also. Plus Natsu beat FH Zeref all on his own.

 

[Woodenstool]

And he made their power into his own. Wendy helped Erza against Irene also. Plus Natsu beat FH Zeref all on his own.

Natsu doesn't have that kind of power anymore.

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If he did, his flames would've burned through the ravines of time.

--- Double Post Merged, Aug 29, 2017 ---

And how is it his own power when the line before says they gave their power to him.

 

[Jko]

Natsu doesn't have that kind of power anymore.

--- Double Post Merged, Aug 29, 2017, Original Post Date: Aug 29, 2017 ---

If he did, his flames would've burned through the ravines of time.

--- Double Post Merged, Aug 29, 2017 ---

And how is it his own power when the line before says they gave their power to him. Lol. Critical thinking please.

It was his own power since he was the only person in the guild actually fighting lol. Natsu was tired when he fought Acno so that's why he didn't use it, and 7DS Natsu is stronger than SF Natsu anyway.