Discussion Earth Land Mages Rate - THE ULTIMATE POWER RANKING [BIG FINALE + STATISTICS]

[BluePegasus]

STATISTICS

Spoiler: Alakitasia ranking

1). Irene Belserion - 12,200
6). Larcade Dragneel - 10,683
7). DiMaria Yesta - 10,667
9). God Serena - 10,017
11). Brandish μ - 9,533
12). Bloodman - 9,300
15). Invel Yura - 9,117
16). Wall Eehto - 9,017
18). Ajeel Ramal - 8,383
19). Jacob Lessio - 8,183
24). Neinhart - 7,450
Average: 9,504545

Spoiler: Ishgar ranking

2). Natsu Dragneel - 11,750
3). Gildarts Clive - 11,583
4). Laxus Dreyar - 11,167
5). Jellal Fernandes - 11,100
8). Erza Scarlet - 10,083
10). Gray Fullbuster - 9,950
13). Gajeel Redfox - 9,267
14). Sting Eucliffe - 9,233
17). TO Sherria Blendy - 8,850
20). Mard Geer - 8,167
21). Mirajane Strauss - 7,983
22). Precht Gaebolg - 7,917
23). Lucy Heartfilia - 7,733
25). Future Rogue Cheney - 7,383
26). Kagura Mikazuchi - 7,333
27). Wendy Marvell - 7,033
28). Silver Fullbuster - 6,750
29). Minerva Orland - 6,683
30). Kyoka - 6,550
31). Ultear Milkovich - 6,283
32). Rogue Cheney - 6,233
33). Erik “Cobra” - 5,983
34). Macbeth “Midnight” - 5,950
35). Arlock - 5,850
36). Lyon Vastia - 5,067
37). Cana Alberona - 4,867
38). Elfman Strauss - 4,483
Average: 7,82337

The winning continent is..

Spoiler

Alakitasia

Spoiler: Guild ranking

Spriggan Twelve
1). Irene Belserion - 12,200
6). Larcade Dragneel - 10,683
7). DiMaria Yesta - 10,667
9). God Serena - 10,017
11). Brandish μ - 9,533
12). Bloodman - 9,300
15). Invel Yura - 9,117
16). Wall Eehto - 9,017
18). Ajeel Ramal - 8,383
19). Jacob Lessio - 8,183
24). Neinhart - 7,450
Average: 9,504545

Fairy Tail
2). Natsu Dragneel - 11,750
3). Gildarts Clive - 11,583
4). Laxus Dreyar - 11,167
8). Erza Scarlet - 10,083
10). Gray Fullbuster - 9,950
13). Gajeel Redfox - 9,267
21). Mirajane Strauss - 7,983
23). Lucy Heartfilia - 7,733
27). Wendy Marvell - 7,033
37). Cana Alberona - 4,867
38). Elfman Strauss - 4.483
Average: 8,718091

Sabertooth
14). Sting Eucliffe - 9,233
25). Future Rogue Cheney - 7,383
29). Minerva Orland - 6,683
32). Rogue Cheney - 6,233
Average: 7,383

Crime Sorciere
5). Jellal Fernandes - 11,100
31). Ultear Milkovich - 6,283
33). Erik “Cobra" - 5,983
34). Macbeth “Midnight” - 5,950
Average: 7,329

Lamia Scale
17). Sherria Blendy - 8,850
36) Lyon Vastia - 5,067
Average: 6,9585

Mermaid Heel
26). Kagura Mikazuchi - 7,333
Average: 7,333

Tartaros
20). Mard Geer - 8,167
28). Silver Fullbuster - 6,750
30). Kyoka - 6,550
Average: 7,155667

Grimoire Heart
22). Precht Gaebolg - 7,917
Average: 7,917

Avatar
35). Arlock - 5,850
Average: 5,850

(Balam Alliance
20). Mard Geer - 8,167
22). Precht Gaebolg - 7,917
28). Silver Fullbuster - 6,750
30). Kyoka - 6,550
Average: 7,346)

Most 13's
1). Natsu x 11
2). Irene x 10
3). Gildarts x 4
4). Larcade x 2
5). Laxus x 1, DiMaria x 1, Lucy x 1

 

[Gryffindor]

Well that was one heck of a ride, wasn't it? Here is the full list with links to the elimination posts in case anyone ever feels like checking them out again.

[post=4599653] 1) Irene Belserion-12.200[/post]
[post=4599652] 2) Natsu Dragneel-11.750[/post]
[post=4599651] 3) Gildarts Clive-11.583[/post]
[post=4598583] 4) Laxus Dreyar-11.167[/post]
[post=4597382] 5) Jellal Fernandes-11.100[/post]
[post=4597225] 6) Larcade Dragneel-10.683[/post]
[post=4596413] 7) DiMaria Yesta-10.667[/post]
[post=4595925] 8) Erza Scarlet-10.083[/post]
[post=4595453] 9) God Serena-10.017[/post]
[post=4595191] 10) Gray Fullbuster-9.950[/post]
[post=4594738] 11) Brandish µ-9.533[/post]
[post=4593900] 12) Bradman-9.300[/post]
[post=4593439] 13) Gajeel Redfox-9.267[/post]
[post=4593248] 14) Sting Eucliffe-9.233[/post]
[post=4592900] 15) Invel Yura-9.117[/post]
[post=4592813] 16) Wall Eehto-9.017[/post]
[post=4592320] 17) Sherria Blendy-8.850[/post]
[post=4591927] 18) Ajeel Ramal-8.383[/post]
[post=4591726] 19) Jacob Lessio-8.183[/post]
[post=4591475] 20) Mard Geer-8.167[/post]
[post=4591231] 21) Mirajane Strauss-7.983[/post]
[post=4591204] 22) Precht Gaebolg-7.917[/post]
[post=4591058] 23) Lucy Heartfilia-7.733[/post]
[post=4590919] 24) Neinhart-7.450[/post]
[post=4590697] 25) Future Rogue Cheney-7.383[/post]
[post=4590248] 26) Kagura Mikazuchi-7.333[/post]
[post=4590163] 27) Wendy Marvell-7.033[/post]
[post=4589984] 28) Silver Fullbuster-6.750[/post]
[post=4589777] 29) Minerva Orland-6.683[/post]
[post=4589556] 30) Kyoka-6.550[/post]
[post=4589279] 31) Ultear Milkovich-6.283[/post]
[post=4589053] 32) Rogue Cheney-6.233[/post]
[post=4589013] 33) Erik "Cobra"-5.983[/post]
[post=4588937] 34) Macbeth "Midnight"-5.950[/post]
[post=4588113] 35) Arlock-5.850[/post]
[post=4587925] 36) Lyon Vastia-5.067[/post]
[post=4587728] 37) Cana Alberona-4.867[/post]
[post=4587607] 38) Elfman Strauss-4.483[/post]​

 

[Ebony Maw]

Before I end this rate officially, I just want to thank everyone who took part in it.

Thank you to everyone who voted, and even to those who didn't, the discussion in this thread has been incredibly interesting and outright entertaining.

Big thanks to my fellow hosts @BluePegasus, @Emperor Spriggan and @Gryffindor, you guys really upped your game in this rating and it wouldn't have been possible without you. The same goes to @Brandish @DiMaria Yesta @Crescent_jinxgrace @Takuan @~Charging Lightning~ and @Belserion, you all did fantastic posts!

And in general I want to thank the mods for making this run so smoothly, I know for a fact that this thread easily could have turned to chaos without their intervention. In particular I want to thank @Brandish for sticky-ing the thread, this thread wouldn't have been anywhere near as active if it wasn't for you.

I hope everyone enjoyed that the rate, as now....

This poster was made by @Valhalla777, big thanks to him!

THE EARTH LAND MAGES RATE IS OFFICIALLY OVER!​

 

[Anti Hero 3:16]

Jellal imo is one of the coolest guys in this series, the guy has everything. He has everything cool powers, his personality is great (yeah some people say he whines a lot but no one is perfect), has some cool moments and great fights. He is one of my favourites of this series. Its to bad his handling in this series was poor. I always wanted to see jellal and natsu tag teaming going up against zeref after the moment they both had in oracion sies arc where jellal gave natsu his powers to enter DF. I think no. 5 is a good spot for jellal though al ittle high maybe but very good.

 

[Raven]

I mean his demonic form it gave his resistance, Was a typo.

No, what you showed me was Natsu with claws, something he already had at the start of the fight. Besides, those claws are dark magic accumulating around his hands, his hands dont actually become claws

Spoiler: Natsu with claws

Spoiler: Natsu without claws

Spoiler: Natsu with Claws

Spoiler: Natsu without claws

Spoiler: Natsu with claws in one hand, and without claws in the other

Spoiler: Natsu in Dimaria's flashback without claws

They come and go at his pleasure, they werent even there when he beat Dimaria, so i guess by your logic Dimaria was beaten by a significantly weaker END?

Darkness mode means Gray becomes resistant to demon attacks? Show me a panel that says that, or even implies it. Gray's speed and offense were equal to ENDs, was it due to darkness? Probably not, he didnt kill Juvia so he shouldnt have been darkened. But even if he was, that just means he has a legitimate reason for being as strong as he is, and massacring Dimaria as easily as he did Invel.

END was as bloodlusted as Gray was, it was made soo blatantly obvious, a child couldnt miss it.

lmao, Best thing that you can't even type any thing that make sense and it good for the laughs. I showed you a half demonzied arm, I showed you a demon hand. I won't say even children can see it and those childish lines that comes from you. Actually some children out there are smarter than adults so i would say only those who got brains will know that Natsu was demonzing. You can see more detailed demonized arm in those panels and you still can't get it. This ain't black fire claws, This is pure transformation. It's better to say he transform and revert when he please

Spoiler

You have Gray fending off MM, It is a manga moment that supports the fact that DeS gives the caster resistance to demons when he go demonic mode. He couldn't stand on his feat after blocking that spell and he took some time to gain a little strength again to ks. If there wasn't any resistance he would have been fainted without recovering normally. Speed doesn't have anything to do with strength. He was keeping with END due to his demon slaying magic. Not rocket science!

Gray believed every word coming from Invel, and he wanted to blame him for Juvia's death. Enough reason to fall into darkness, If he is not in darkness he wouldn't have fought with Natsu. Natsu wasn't bloodlusted for the reason i said before.

One panel means nothing with seeing the actual fight, Setting your assumptions around off paneled is really sad, Even if he defeated Dimaria without any diff that because it's only something END can do and it's supported by manga facts.

Spoiler

Dimaria hax is what makes her strong, Without it she can be defeated by Gray tiers, She knows who is the only one who can break her time stop hax and it's only END. Plus look at her face, She must have seen something more than raged Natsu.

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Well, I think Laxus and Jellal are pretty even.

 

[Ebony Maw]

This is my last post on DiMaria, I'm clearly not going to convince you and you're not convincing me.

No Dimaria stop times for everyone.

No she doesn't. If she did Jacob wouldn't have arrived at the Guild so quickly.

Besides, if she stopped everyone then she'd be considered the strongest Spriggan. And yet Brandish, a character you could argue would actually have bias in favour of DiMaria, stated with certainty that the strongest Spriggans are August and Irene.

Blitz stomping a city ++ level character with no difficulty

Too bad everyone left in this rate is above the average Spriggan in magic power.

Stating this world belongs to her alone

DiMaria stating it's her world doesn't mean crap since Ultear messed with it via Time Magic and E.N.D broke though it with sheer power. DiMaria even says this:

"You're telling me his power surpasses even the Gods!?"

That line is canon proof that Age Seal has a limit. And no, said power isn't E.N.D specific, she's simply saying that the only thing she believes is powerful enough to do that is E.N.D. And as we've seen, the words of Spriggans are incredibly fallible as they constantly underestimate their opponents.

And to all the people who said NLF with Dimaria's time magic, Larcade's magic affected Irene and Zeref. Case closed, if you can't understand this then you're either trolling or too stubborn to agree.

People are NLF'ing DiMaria because we've only seen her trap people on her tier or below. When something as powerful as E.N.D tried to walk through it, it succeeded, and since it was never mentioned E.N.D has time breaking abilities, it must mean that Age Seal can't trap things on par/above the level of E.N.D.

Larcade on the other hand scored way above his own level, affecting Irene and Zeref, and flooring the likes of Gildarts and Laxus with ease. He even almost defeated his complete counter, and only lost because he got a last minute power-up.

 

[SirSamuel016]

Spoiler: Best Relationship

Thanks.
In all seriousness, I was going to include it just for the laughs but decided against it last minute. Jellal and Kagura have a long history because of Simon but I wouldn't say they have a bond, they've only ever interacted in Hargeon, and even though Kagura dropped her grudge, it doesn't seem like they're friends or anything. The bond just isn't there imo unlike with Erza or his CS buddies, so I excluded it.

Jellal still hasn't visited Erza though. For all we know he's been seeing Kagura and/or staring at her Weekly Sorcerer pics

 

[Anti Hero 3:16]

So, now the remaining 4 are laxus, natsu, gildarts and irene. I think the next to go out will be laxus with natsu going out next, then gildarts and numero uno will be irene. Thats my prediction, so lets see how it goes from here on out.

 

[Arjuna]

My fear came true about Jellal



But good job @Gryffindor

If delusion was a crime, you would get life without parole.

One of the important rule mentioned was that if you didn't vote you can't complain with the result .If you are unhappy with the ranking then the fault is your as you didn't vote

.
You are out of your mind.

and stop abusing others.

 

[Raven]

Natsu
Irene
Gildarts
Laxus

Is that how i vote. xD

 

[Arjuna]

Erza just stomped Irene despite the obvious magic difference. God kid, you are really stubborn.

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An appeal to popularity fallacy, just because a everyone agrees with a certain topic doesn't make it right. My vote can't balance out the delusional children who think Natsu or Laxus can stop Dimaria's time stop.

Mark my words, the final post will be Natsu. "His df destroyed the body of FH zeref" Ignoring the fact Erza intercepted his attacks when bloodlusted, natsu is slow af, can magically revert to normal after Gildarts turns him into cubes.

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Wahl was enough to go through Laxus' durability.

I will give you a good advice then .If you think we all are doing a popularity contest instead of a legit powerscaling tournament then you shouldn't post or see it.As it is you didn't even vote and still complaining.

 

[Anti Hero 3:16]

I will give you a good advice .If you think we all are doing a popularity contest then you shouldn't post or see it.As it is you didn't even vote and still complaining.

Yeah man this girl is outright annoying. Why is she even posting here if she has so much problem with the ranking.

 

[Reebi]

Jellal out before Laxus? Srsly?

The Laxus fanboys mistake him for Super Seiyan Goku, when he clearly isn't. I wouldn't be surprised if he wins Laxus is strong but Jellal was able to go up against Acnologia, not well but better than Serena. The only other person who could do that was Makarov when he went super big. Makarov >> Laxus

 

[Raven]

The Laxus fanboys mistake him for Super Seiyan Goku, when he clearly isn't. I wouldn't be surprised if he wins Laxus is strong but Jellal was able to go up against Acnologia, not well but better than Serena. The only other person who could do that was Makarov when he went super big. Makarov >> Laxus

Queen Reebi hates Laxus

 

[Reebi]

Queen Reebi hates Laxus

I just think he is overrated. He's strong but there are stronger.

 

[Cat Sidhe26]

I just think he is overrated. He's strong but there are stronger.

Thank you Reebi this needed to be said. Even I think the Laxus fanboys/fangirls overhype Laxus which one of the reason I hate Laxus now.

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The Laxus fanboys mistake him for Super Seiyan Goku, when he clearly isn't. I wouldn't be surprised if he wins Laxus is strong but Jellal was able to go up against Acnologia, not well but better than Serena. The only other person who could do that was Makarov when he went super big. Makarov >> Laxus

In other words you think Makarov is stronger then Laxus.

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I just think he is overrated. He's strong but there are stronger.

Which is true since there's always a bigger fish in the sea.

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Queen Reebi hates Laxus

So what if Reebi hates Laxus everyone has a character they don't like and a character they like.

 

[Raven]

I just think he is overrated. He's strong but there are stronger.

True.

So what if Reebi hates Laxus everyone has a character they don't like and a character they like.

I thought she loves all the characters xD

 

[Seven777]

I mean his demonic form it gave his resistance, Was a typo.

lmao, Best thing that you can't even type any thing that make sense and it good for the laughs. I showed you a half demonzied arm, I showed you a demon hand. I won't say even children can see it and those childish lines that comes from you. Actually some children out there are smarter than adults so i would say only those who got brains will know that Natsu was demonzing. You can see more detailed demonized arm in those panels and you still can't get it. This ain't black fire claws, This is pure transformation. It's better to say he transform and revert when he please

Spoiler

You have Gray fending off MM, It is a manga moment that supports the fact that DeS gives the caster resistance to demons when he go demonic mode. He couldn't stand on his feat after blocking that spell and he took some time to gain a little strength again to ks. If there wasn't any resistance he would have been fainted without recovering normally. Speed doesn't have anything to do with strength. He was keeping with END due to his demon slaying magic. Not rocket science!

Gray believed every word coming from Invel, and he wanted to blame him for Juvia's death. Enough reason to fall into darkness, If he is not in darkness he wouldn't have fought with Natsu. Natsu wasn't bloodlusted for the reason i said before.

One panel means nothing with seeing the actual fight, Setting your assumptions around off paneled is really sad, Even if he defeated Dimaria without any diff that because it's only something END can do and it's supported by manga facts.

Spoiler

Dimaria hax is what makes her strong, Without it she can be defeated by Gray tiers, She knows who is the only one who can break her time stop hax and it's only END. Plus look at her face, She must have seen something more than raged Natsu.

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Well, I think Laxus and Jellal are pretty even.

Hehe, and you telling me to get glasses is so mature
But slander aside, yes i saw your image of Natsu's arm, so what? It isnt any more demon-like than it was in the panel i gave you.
Yes, i do have Gray fending off Memento Mori, not tanking it. Gray didnt suddenly become resistant to demon attacks, he just became capable of blocking them. END hit him head on with his roar and punches, Gray didnt block em, so he took full damage and was still going strong.
He was keeping up with END because they were equal. You see it every time they clashed, massive explosions occurred and Gray didnt give an inch, he matched ENDs attacks equally.

Spoiler

Gray already said why he fought Natsu, and it had nothing to do with Darkness. The fact that he left Invel alive, the guy who actually killed Juvia implies that Gray was still in his right mind. But tbh i dont care either way, Darkness Gray is still Gray.

Haha, calling me sad for basing my opinion on a panel? When you're basing this "incomplete END" nonsense on even less? Good one.
Dimaria said END could walk through Age Seal because he was stronger, which means anyone capable of beating Chronos with less than high difficulty should be able to do the same.

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Jellal out eh? He did better than i thought he would. Jellal has my favorite magic out of anyone in FT, Heavenly Body magic kicks ass. Its too bad Jellal became such a shit character after his defeat at Natsu's hands.

 

[Anti Hero 3:16]

--- Double Post Merged, Aug 31, 2017 ---

Jellal out eh? He did better than i thought he would. Jellal has my favorite magic out of anyone in FT, Heavenly Body magic kicks ass. Its too bad Jellal became such a shit character after his defeat at Natsu's hands.

I dont think he became bad after his fight with natsu, he still had good moments, more like in this arc but hey everyone regressed in this arc. So I will cut a little slack.

 

[Seven777]

I dont think he became bad after his fight with natsu, he still had good moments, more like in this arc but hey everyone regressed in this arc. So I will cut a little slack.

I absolutely hated him in the OS arc(his first appearance since his defeat), he was so pathetic it made me sick. And then Erza treatment of him made it even worse(not his fault but it still pissed me off). Jellal has never been the same for me since then. I dont hate him anymore, but even halfway decent moments like his fight with the OS irked me. For me the only tolerable moment he's had since the OS arc was his fight with Jura.

 

[Raven]

Haha, calling me sad for basing my opinion on a panel? When you're basing this "incomplete END" nonsense on even less? Good one.
Dimaria said END could walk through Age Seal because he was stronger, which means anyone capable of beating Chronos with less than high difficulty should be able to do the same.
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You keep saying that Gray matched END equally which don't have anything to do with the topic, Current Natsu is stronger than Gray by huge margin, Accept and move on, He is keeping with END because of DeS magic nothing more, Since you can't accept manga facts, Let's assume he has high defense over all against demons and non demons. It won't help him against Dimaria because his offense is scrub. He failed to put a scratch on a demon even with advantage imagine a god with time hax. Saying that Gray can take down her with same ease is just pure fanboyism and wishful thinking.

In fact, Dimaria didn't say that "END can walk in her time because he is stronger" she said "Only END can walk in her time" because there is no normal man can do that. Saying that Gray can do the same is just you assumption and it don't have any supportive panels.

I'm using manga material that support me, While you just assume and create theories of fire claws BS xD You don't have any manga material that supports your case of Natsu not demonizing. You're assuming. Heck even Igneel told Natsu that his demon seed will lead to his demonizing and he has to choose either seed. You're claiming that this END is the END in his glory you must be confused big time or in denial. You still can't prove that Natsu is shaping his flames not actually demonizing when you do have a fact material you can pm me.

 

[Berty]

Next to go should be Laxus. Personally I find him and Erza to be equal in terms of power - and that's overestimating him a bit. But Laxus fans are pretty abundant so I'm guessing he might even go after Gildarts.

 

[Seven777]

In fact, Dimaria didn't say that "END can walk in her time because he is stronger" she said "Only END can walk in her time" because there is no normal man can do that. Saying that Gray can do the same is just you assumption and it don't have any supportive panels.

You keep saying that Gray matched END equally which don't have anything to do with the topic, Current Natsu is stronger than Gray by huge margin, Accept and move on, He is keeping with END because of DeS magic nothing more and he even failed to put a scratch on him even with advantage. Let's assume he has high defense over all against demons and non demons. It won't help him against Dimaria because his offense is scrub.

I'm using manga material that support me, While you just assume and create theories of fire claws BS xD You don't have any manga material that supports your case of Natsu not demonizing. You're assuming. Heck even Igneel told Natsu that his demon seed will lead to his demonizing and he has to choose either seed. You're claiming that this END is the END in his glory you must be confused big time or in denial. You still can't prove that Natsu is shaping his flames not actually demonizing when you do have a fact material you can pm me.

It is certainly an assumption on my part, never denied that, but its one that im sticking with. And no, END isnt the only one who can walk through Age Seal, the criteria is clear, if you are more powerful than Chronos you can walk through Age Seal. Or are you saying people like Acnologia cant walk through it?

I didnt say Gray matched current Natsu, so there is nothing for me to move on from.
Gray's offense is scrub? Gray's offense was matching END's equally, the same guy who massacred Dimaria lol.

All i said was that in Dimaria's flashback, END didnt have those claws, so by your logic he shouldve been weaker. You're argument doesnt even make sense, according to you Natsu was becoming more and more demon-like, but at the same time you're saying the Natsu that fought Dimaria was stronger than the one that fought Gray afterwards? Does he become weaker the more he transforms? Get your story straight.
Igneel only said that he had to choose a seed or he would die, he didnt say his transformation would be greater than his previous one upon choosing it.
Bottom line? Your "Complete END" doesnt exist, you thinkingthere could have been if he fought longer is immaterial, because in the end it never appeared and we will never know. There is no point discussing it further.