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[Kato756]

I suppose I feel like giving a hint now.

"Does anyone here like Honey?"

Before you said that you woundl´t talk about your role day 1 when I asked, now you "feel" like giving a hint?

unnn....

Votekill! WYIS

 

[syx]

My high suspicion people right now both syx and Battou.

Syx because he keeps saying things that don't add up. And when I've asked him to clarity he dodges the questions. So I think he's lying. But I'm not convinced he's doing it because he's mafia. If might just been that getting stiffed in the Fate Grand Order Gatcha his driven him insane.

Battou because his posts have been short and said very little. Like he's wants to post but is also holding his cards as close to his chest as he can. He also suggested three people at once were mafia; one of which being me. But didn't really explain why. Making me think all he's mafia trying to misdirect. But if he's guilty then the other two he accused, Syx and Spirit, are probably innocent.

I'm inclined to believe that you are indeed a townie because you swore on Androssi. We have been discussion partners for years in the Tower of God section. I know exactly how precious Androssi is to you. You would lose all your credibility if you were to fool us by swearing on Androssi just for a single mafia game.

In order to gain your trust, how would you feel if I transfer my strength to you?

 

[GrySun]

I suppose I feel like giving a hint now.

"Does anyone here like Honey?"

The scav hunt and MHaraton confirmed me that I suck at these riddles. Leaving that up to @Totinona @Organizized

 

[Copy Panda]

I suppose I feel like giving a hint now.

"Does anyone here like Honey?"

Can't wait for you to remind us in like 2 days you gave us a very valuable hint and therefore shouldn't be lynched

Tale as old as time

 

[Spirit]

Can't wait for you to remind us in like 2 days you gave us a very valuable hint and therefore shouldn't be lynched

Tale as old as time

It can be valuable for those who are wary and have good intentions.

 

[Copy Panda]

I'm inclined to believe that you are indeed a townie because you swore on Androssi. We have been discussion partners for years in the Tower of God section. I know exactly how precious Androssi is to you. You would lose all your credibility if you were to fool us by swearing on Androssi just for a single mafia game.

In order to gain your trust, how would you feel if I transfer my strength to you?

That would be a complete waste and probably a step away from gaining trust from town as a whole, as opposed to your mafia associate I mean individual fellow player

 

[Demonspeed]

Wow, two other people gave me their energy? This is weird.

 

[Spirit]

Before you said that you woundl´t talk about your role day 1 when I asked, now you "feel" like giving a hint?

unnn....

Votekill! WYIS

Me over Demon or Gry? Those two are teaming up and you want to join in. Ok...

 

[Copy Panda]

It can be valuable for those who are wary and have good intentions.

Don't you know? The way to (above?) hell is paved with good intentions.

 

[GrySun]

Also guys, we shouldn't do this half-assedly. Either get 11 more power to Demonspeed or let it be, because him ending it with ~10 or another high number of energy may just make him a prime night target, especially if he has a good role.

But from his positive reaction to me sending him power I'd think he doesn't mind it.

 

[Holt]

Obviously we 'allow' it too, since it's the most obvious thing to do. D1 is fundamentally different from any other day because we have no information that is reliable. And so, yes, D1 typically goes to mafia, that's true.

For one, I don't think our chances are that slim. With 28 players, we should assume 8~10 players are not town. Provided we managed to pile up enough power, we have around ~30% chance of hitting a mafia, given it's almost a random hit.

In that case Why do we bother giving hints then? We could just claim roles outright. It's done because those little bits are used for evaluation at a later time. And so, no reliable info is still info that could be useful eventually. D1 might still go to Mafia, but then we could potentially have more to work with.

Well that's my point exactly. If you're saying 30% of hitting Mafia, then it's 70% of hitting town. A much higher percentage. And keep in mind that even if it was just 1% of hitting townie, it's still a percentage too much, basically, not a certainty. So getting trigger happy and potentially offing (with much likelihood) townies isn't in our favor IMO, especially when we're still behind with info....

 

[Demonspeed]

I hope this is not a setup to kill me N1.

"Demon was killed because he had too much energy"

 

[Kato756]

Me over Demon or Gry? Those two are teaming up and you want to join in. Ok...

Gotta be true with you, i think going against you to see if you are mafia , and if not, going against those that you argued with is a safe strategy based on my previous experiences XD

But I haven´t locked in yet, so...
Based on your riddle, Prostitute? Because of honey trap?

BRB guys, gonna lunch

 

[syx]

That would be a complete waste and probably a step away from gaining trust from town as a whole, as opposed to your mafia associate I mean individual fellow player

Seems like whatever I try to do, it won't help me gain trust. :/

 

[Holt]

I´d normally agree with this, but dunno, this is a game wit hlots of players, what do you sugest we do diferently?
Had this been a game of around 15 people with more experiencied people, it´d be other story

@Jammin it is still true bro xD

Talk more. Reason behind votes, issues you may have with someone's play, similarities between their play and an older game where they were X affiliation. Keep in mind this is just to share ideas. And if all of these fail for today, we'll still be better off than usual

 

[GrySun]

I hope this is not a setup to kill me N1.

"Demon was killed because he had too much energy"

Well say something Demon. Do you want to try and get 15 to kill someone we decide on, or do you want us all to drop it? Because the more they give it to you and it doesn't end on 15 the likelier your death at night becomes.

In that case Why do we bother giving hints then? We could just claim roles outright. It's done because those little bits are used for evaluation at a later time. And so, no reliable info is still info that could be useful eventually. D1 might still go to Mafia, but then we could potentially have more to work with.

Well that's my point exactly. If you're saying 30% of hitting Mafia, then it's 70% of hitting town. A much higher percentage. And keep in mind that even if it was just 1% of hitting townie, it's still a percentage too much, basically, not a certainty. So getting trigger happy and potentially offing (with much likelihood) townies isn't in our favor IMO, especially when we're still behind with info....

I would even argue that a game where everyone reveals outright would be an easy townie stomp. The more experienced people can see which parts of the finished role list we'd have then are off. Add in newbies picking something wrong, and others hiding with easy to claim roles as dets/dosc/hiders, it would be an easy game I think.
But alas, our meta is different. Gotta work with what we have, since no way are we getting even half of the players to reveal immediately. The "it's too early" mentality it too deep in most of us.

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 7, 2017, Original Post Date: Sep 7, 2017 ---

Seems like whatever I try to do, it won't help me gain trust. :/

He means you should drop the useless small gestures and participate in the current talks. Either give it to yourself to save up for later, or give it to Demon to get him 15 energy so he uses it. Giving it to someone else doesn't do much, nor does it make Jammin trust you more.
Gotta be with the topic at hand.

 

[Spirit]

I hope I'm not lynched today by the time I get up. Would be a real pity.

 

[Holt]

Emperor you liked my post and are lurking but didn't reply though

 

[Copy Panda]

In that case Why do we bother giving hints then? We could just claim roles outright. It's done because those little bits are used for evaluation at a later time. And so, no reliable info is still info that could be useful eventually. D1 might still go to Mafia, but then we could potentially have more to work with.

Because of the inherent mechanics of killing in the game, obviously. If no one gave any hints, mafia would default win. We aren't giving hints because it's fun and customary, but because a hint is as much as we can give under usual circumstances without receiving mafia death penalty. Those who don't participate or are suspect don't give out their roles out just like that either, because a hint is maybe enough to both prevent being killed and lynch.

Well that's my point exactly. If you're saying 30% of hitting Mafia, then it's 70% of hitting town. A much higher percentage. And keep in mind that even if it was just 1% of hitting townie, it's still a percentage too much, basically, not a certainty. So getting trigger happy and potentially offing (with much likelihood) townies isn't in our favor IMO, especially when we're still behind with info....

Impressive math skills, but you're being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian (which makes me a bit suspicious). On a day with zero information provided, having a 30% chance to hit mafia members is actually not too bad. It becomes worse as the game goes on, that's so, but I think if we go with your logic, it would make most sense for town to completely stall the vote, try to not lynch anyone at all till we have a 100% chance of hitting mafia... which will never happen (because we will never be ahead in info, the game is designed that way). If you can see the merit of that reasoning, you can also agree that this power transfer thing is basically the same as democratically deciding we're okay with another day time lynch, which is what we should be happy with since it provides us with more agency than usual.

 

[Demonspeed]

Well say something Demon. Do you want to try and get 15 to kill someone we decide on, or do you want us all to drop it? Because the more they give it to you and it doesn't end on 15 the likelier your death at night becomes.

Too risky. It's better like this.

Mafia could also kill me now that I said this to set the potential townies among you three up.

Doctor or Bodyguard protect me if you can.