I won't reveal more about the Masons because it would make things easier for Mafia, we are most likely the key to victory now. I only revealed myself and won't say more. If ulq is Mafia Mason then Son is a Townie because ulq is definitely the Lover. If he was not, Son would deny it, but he can't.
My point is we can kill another Mafia with Genkidama before we kill Vandred, skip Night Phase, and then kill Tina.
I don't see how holding on to that information helps. At the very least, if you can confirm them, it's possible we can overload Mafia anyway and get the rest by process of elimination. But well, I also suppose it might not be necessary to say it yet. Still, this is D3, we're nearing the endgame anyway
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Who is this other Mafia then?
It helps because Masons don't have very useful roles. They are Vanillas who can confirm each others. If they target and kill a Mason, it's better than them killing a Doc, Spy, Bodyguard or something. If I reveal everything, it'll be easier for them to choose potential targets with more threatening roles.
On the other hand, by confirming the Mason team, it could give us a broader view of the situation, and maybe stop us from going after the wrong people
Because I thought if he was being forthright, he would understand that his days are numbered anyway. Revealing Lovers this early, on top of a super valuable role is legit suicidal. I'm sure it makes sense for him if he's only caring about self-preservation, but definitely don't see waiting for the identities of other Mafia members as the best play for the town.
I am not going to reveal it no matter what you tell me. Are you Mafia?
Well his days are clearly numbered, but he did already factor in a burden being taken down and thus night phase having to be skipped. In the end, if it's just his lover on one team when we have eliminated the other, they'd still win I guess. And why would the lover not be on board with this after all? I mean, they do have to stick together
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Nope, but you brought the claim up to counter Daws who seems to have a pretty solid story, so I'm sure you'll understand if I'm skeptical about you being a mason in the first placeI am not going to reveal it no matter what you tell me. Are you Mafia?
I'm not saying he isn't... but @Demonspeed is saying something quite a bit different. So I'm rather confused at that scenario and who is playing who, etc.
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Which is true but there's a very slim opportunity for them to also win anyway, and of course he has gotten the other teams member. If things don't go to plan, they get to take him and his lover down. I'm not saying its 100% legit, but well, it seems so