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[Demonspeed]

Nope, but you brought the claim up to counter Daws who seems to have a pretty solid story, so I'm sure you'll understand if I'm skeptical about you being a mason in the first place

Well, Son can't deny anything I said and even asked me to "enlighten" him. I think what I said can be trusted.

 

[xi0]

@SonOfDaws do you or your Lover know the identities of the Mafia as well as the Masons? Was Panda a Mafia member?

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Are there REALLY no Masons online right now besides Demon?

 

[Demonspeed]

He fucked up because he didn't know ulq was Mason. And ulq who never had any intention to win with him never told him. ulq told us that he didn't know Son's role as well.

They should have really killed him tonight.

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Even if there were other Masons, they would not reveal themselves.

 

[Lady pompom]

I don't think we should kill Son now, It'd be better to kill nona first and we would know if she's a janitor or not and if she's really a janitor we would have Panda's role revealed as well, it would give us at least three identities confirmed (Nona as janitor, Pand'a role and sonofdaws in the lover/mafia detective together with the probability Demon is telling the truth) and if Daws in telling the truth about it, we proceed killing Vandred, but if he is lying, we kill him instead.

 

[Holt]

My proposition:

We GK Son today.

After this we lynch Vandred(night phase skipped). After this we GK Totinona or lynch her. With this we limit Mafia's actions and learn if Panda was Townie or not.

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But I am not saying to do this quickly. There is still time.

Why should we GK him? He gave his a janitor and burden and you want him? Why postpone the janitor?

 

[xi0]

Which is true but there's a very slim opportunity for them to also win anyway, and of course he has gotten the other teams member. If things don't go to plan, they get to take him and his lover down. I'm not saying its 100% legit, but well, it seems so

Their chance of winning now is way smaller now after this reveal than it ever was beforehand. They might get closer to the finish line by us killing a bunch of Mafia in a row, but their actual chances of victory are smaller IMO.

 

[Demonspeed]

Why should we GK him? He gave his a janitor and burden and you want him? Why postpone the janitor?

We GK him because he is Mafia. If we kill Totinona next the night phase is not skipped. They will have more freedom. But we can kill at least 3 Mafias in a row if we GK Son then Vandred. If it's revealed that Panda was Mafia it would be even better.

 

[xi0]

He fucked up because he didn't know ulq was Mason. And ulq who never had any intention to win with him never told him. ulq told us that he didn't know Son's role as well.

They should have really killed him tonight.

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Even if there were other Masons, they would not reveal themselves.

I mean, I'd like to believe this but no one is around to confirm it and Daws has gone mute. I guess he just expects us to lynch Vandred?

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We GK him because he is Mafia. If we kill Totinona next the night phase is not skipped. They will have more freedom. But we can kill at least 3 Mafias in a row if we GK Son then Vandred. If it's revealed that Panda was Mafia it would be even better.

If we kill him during the day, we don't get any more information out of them. If what you've said is true about A.ulq, there's no guarantee that any information on the involved Mafia will come out, no?

 

[Demonspeed]

All those who want more confirmations of Masons are likely Mafia. Holt and Gary.

The first thing to do now would be GKing the Mafia Det Son. Even if you don't agree with the rest you can at least agree with this. Son is resigned. His team gambled by letting ulq alive, they are paying the price.

 

[Lady pompom]

We should GK Totinona to ascertain SonofDaws is telling the truth and it would help town find out many roles of players around, like Panda's role, Nona's role and at least that Son is telling the truth about the roles and is a mafia det, then if nona is the janitor we kill Vandred and skip night phase and proceed killing son (we would still get time to kill him and then kill three mafia in a row), the rest would be up to us finding out the other mafias.

 

[xi0]

How does that make Holt and myself Mafia? I wasn't trying to come off hasty, I was just surprised at this after the Lovers thing. The smarter play probably would be to keep quiet for now.

SonOfDaws on the other hand has nothing to lose by revealing more info IMO. Nothing is gained on his end by refusing to reply with more information.

 

[Demonspeed]

I mean, I'd like to believe this but no one is around to confirm it and Daws has gone mute. I guess he just expects us to lynch Vandred?

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If we kill him during the day, we don't get any more information out of them. If what you've said is true about A.ulq, there's no guarantee that any information on the involved Mafia will come out, no?

Why would he reveal more when their chances of winning lowered significantly? If I were Mafia, I would not reveal more. He posted three times already and voted, he doesn't have to do anything else. He is online following or discussion and he can't say I am wrong. They screwed up.

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We should GK Totinona to ascertain SonofDaws is telling the truth and it would help town find out many roles of players around, like Panda's role, Nona's role and at least that Son is telling the truth about the roles and is a mafia det, then if nona is the janitor we kill Vandred and skip night phase and proceed killing son (we would still get time to kill him and then kill three mafia in a row), the rest would be up to us finding out the other mafias.

Trust me and let's GK Son. I know why I am saying this.

 

[xi0]

He is online following or discussion and he can't say I am wrong. They screwed up.

Yeah... I guess the silence is deafening.

 

[Holt]

All those who want more confirmations of Masons are likely Mafia. Holt and Gary.

The first thing to do now would be GKing the Mafia Det Son. Even if you don't agree with the rest you can at least agree with this. Son is resigned. His team gambled by letting ulq alive, they are paying the price.

No, Daws is giving us information. Something you're not. Us wanting to know Masons is only so they confirm your story. Well either way, when ulq comes, he can do that. GKing Son before then makes no sense even though be might be Mafia. And I don't buy this Mason claim. Heck you and Ulq could be the mafia with son being town and you're just looking for a way to get rid of both of them for trying to off you. That seems much more likely to me right now.

Son is not going. He claimed a powerful ally, which seems to hint more on Ulq being the mafia det. Regardless, killing Toti is the best move then lynching van but we still need to wait. So hold your horses

 

[Demonspeed]

Vote lock Vandred.

 

[SonOfDaws]

I've said it quite a few times already, but I guess I'll say it again: If you're looking for more information from me, then you won't get it today.

On that note, if you lynch Totinona day, then fine. It'll vindicate me, but don't expect me to be so willing to give out info the day after, if I even live that long.

GKing Totinona is an acceptable course of action. Like I said, it vindicates me and if she's killed this way, then I can still avoid dying this coming night.

 

[xi0]

I think using Genkidama on Tina is probably a safer play. Daws is mute by choice, if we use Genkidama on him, that choice no longer exists.

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On that note, if you lynch Totinona day, then fine. It'll vindicate me, but don't expect me to be so willing to give out info the day after, if I even live that long.

I don't believe anyone suggested lynching her. Lynching anyone other than Vandred is kind of missing the point isn't it?

 

[Spirit]

I think using Genkidama on Tina is probably a safer play. Daws is mute by choice, if we use Genkidama on him, that choice no longer exists.

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I don't believe anyone suggested lynching her. Lynching anyone other than Vandred is kind of missing the point isn't it?

This is why I'm also hesitant to kill off daws right away.

 

[SonOfDaws]

No, Daws is giving us information. Something you're not. Us wanting to know Masons is only so they confirm your story. Well either way, when ulq comes, he can do that. GKing Son before then makes no sense even though be might be Mafia. And I don't buy this Mason claim. Heck you and Ulq could be the mafia with son being town and you're just looking for a way to get rid of both of them for trying to off you. That seems much more likely to me right now.

Son is not going. He claimed a powerful ally, which seems to hint more on Ulq being the mafia det. Regardless, killing Toti is the best move then lynching van but we still need to wait. So hold your horses

I was referring to us as a single unit there... Didn't really stay in character after that but whatever I guess. You guys beat me down

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I don't believe anyone suggested lynching her. Lynching anyone other than Vandred is kind of missing the point isn't it?

I thought Lady pompom was suggesting that

 

[xi0]

I thought Lady pompom was suggesting that

No, she suggested using Genkidama on her instead of you.