Games Mafia Game 56 - Dragon Ball Z: A New Threat - END GAME

[GrySun]

We came out as doct? Because I didn't want to sacrifice myself for nothing when we had a confirmed Townie that would be useful for learning sanity with and a Mason Recruiter left in the game. I would have preferred protecting the latter and I tried to fish for who it was, but people ignored me (not that I blame them).

Yeah, but my point was that if Orgz died due to recruiting desin, why is WYIS still alive if Red Mafia targeted him?

Cmon you know it. Either Daws lied and they directly went for Orgz, or Brandish was their killer who got killed by orange mafia before he could kill Spirit.
Gary I get the feeling you and desin are in orange.

@GrySun Did SonOfDaws actually target desin last night?

I actually don't know since I got no result. Initially thought I got blocked again but it also works if Daws was blocked, I wouldn't find out who he targetted since with a block on him it's as if he didn't target anyone that night.

We have 10 players left. Likely 6 or 7 of those are townies. If orange has 3 members left this game could easily be over next day, with us lynching someone today and ulq dying at night, if both orange and red mafia target a different townie at night orange wins.

To the last red mafia(if there is one): If you don't want yourself and your team to lose you have to kill an orange mafia this night. We had this last game where a lone remaining mafia went for confirmed townies instead of trying to kill people from the other mafia, who then won the game.

 

[xi0]

Cmon you know it. Either Daws lied and they directly went for Orgz, or Brandish was their killer who got killed by orange mafia before he could kill Spirit.
Gary I get the feeling you and desin are in orange.

I know possibilities, but I'm a bit stumped about the more likely one.

Well, don't really have a counter-argument for that aside from what I already said. I saw no benefit to plainly revealing myself and I used my power on WYIS with the hopes of eventually figuring out who the Mason recruiter was, but to no avail. Townie Detectives getting wiped out so early nuked my usefulness in other scenarios quite a bit.

All I can say is that you can use your power tonight to confirm me Townie. Unless there's a better option?

 

[Demonspeed]

Why would a Red listen to you right now? He has to be killed. That's why I said that if pompom is not Prostitute we are screwed.

 

[Farfalla]

REMINDER

Day Phase ends in 2h.
@A.ulq, @Emperor Spriggan, @Holt, @Lady pompom and @WithYouInSpirit still got to vote.
@A.ulq still got to hit the min. votes quota.

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[Lady pompom]

I definitely blocked xi0 last night, so either he lied or mafia didn't target WYIS (it could also be the case that the killer got killed before hitting his target). Be wary cittizens, I'm aware Erin is supect, but if she is indeed the buletproof, be sure mafia is plotting here because she'd be an obstacle to them. We've killed two dets and one investigators already in day lynching.

Orgz probably died because he recruited the wrong person, who did he tried to recruit, do you know @Demonspeed ?

 

[xi0]

Before I forget, I don't believe @A.ulq or @Holt used their transfers today. I'd recommend giving them to Demonspeed today while you still can to bring his total to 10, as I think we might be hard-pressed as it is to be able to use it next phase if the need is there.

 

[Demonspeed]

I definitely blocked xi0 last night, so either he lied or mafia didn't target WYIS (it could also be the case that the killer got killed before hitting his target). Be wary cittizens, I'm aware Erin is supect, but if she is indeed the buletproof, be sure mafia is plotting here because she'd be an obstacle to them. We've killed two dets and one investigators already in day lynching.

Orgz probably died because he recruited the wrong person, who did he tried to recruit, do you know @Demonspeed ?

desin.

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That's why I was hoping for a Brandish block. With two deaths like this we can't be sure that Orgz died from the recruitment. Erin being Mafia makes the most sense to me.

 

[Holt]

Hosts can you confirm if a hypothetical spy wouldn't get any results if he checked on a player who was blocked? @Hardy

 

[xi0]

Yeah, targets should go through. Spy's information isn't based on what the result of the target is, so it shouldn't matter, no?

 

[Lady pompom]

Okay, I need the help of the townies because now we really need to know whom we should block this night, last night people suggested daws or xi0, I blocked xi0. The mafia is coordinated and the masons too, so they had some time to discuss. I know there false information circulating in the town, but you should suggest while you can.

Also, Gry sun, I think your target being blocked or not doesn't change the fact he had already chosen someone, right? I'm not buying your excuse, but i still have my suspicions about xi0 claim, so for now...

votekill xi0

 

[Spirit]

Votekill Erinyes

 

[xi0]

Fuck, I forgot I couldn't vote

 

[Demonspeed]

Again I will assume that pompom is Townie.

1. If desin is Orange Mafia(Escort or not): two deaths tonight.
2. If desin or Erin is Red Mafia: One death.
   
3. If Erin and desin are Townies: 2 deaths.

Depending on what pompom does, we might have 0 or only one death if we make the good choice today but she could be killed if the Red is not lynched. I believe that desin being Red is unlikely, same for Erin being Orange, at the very least they must be in rival teams, it doesn't look like Gary is Red as well. At this point, the Red is probably Erin.

If desin is not Red and pompom blocks the wrong person she will definitely die. And with a Red free, we might lost tonight.

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If the one lynched tonight is the Orange, it has to be the Escort or or chances to win will be lower since it could be possible to block pompom herself if they win the coin flip.

 

[Holt]

This game is hard enough because I really can't figure out who is fucking lying and I know it's part of the game but I'd be lying if I said it wasn't damn annoying. Anyway, I'm still hunting for that last red Mafia. I've been going a lot through Daws posts since his crazy D3 stunt for clues. Of those alive now, the only ones he didn't ever really question their affiliation was Demon, Gry, Emperor and Pompom.

Of these, demon even if there's a possibility of being a Mafia Mason doesnt seem like he'd be team red. I think he wanted Daws gone too much, and I'm not sure if it'd fit the game for a Mafia team to have 2 links to Mason. So I rule him out of red ateast

On Gry, the logical idea is that Daws already checked and confirmed he is spy. But TBH, this could really just be a ploy to hide Gry like I said before. I know the play of sacrificing their burden (van) seems really wild but I believe Daws took that decision alone, and then he and team red were forced to improvise. We already know Van set up Greg and also gave us the wrong number of reds left so I can't rule anything out. Also, his decision to spy on Daws seems fishy. Not illogical, Just get a wrong feeling on it, and especially since they agreed on it before hand. But this was probably the best move though. Unfortunately(?!) we have no leads from their end. However, all things considered, Daws revealed Gry early and at a point where it seemed he was still working alone. And of course, he had to have targetted someone on D1. Still, if there are really two blocking roles, it's a possibility he got blocked, but well, no one has owned up to it yet? Either way, I'm also reluctantly willing to believe Gry is clean.

Pompom clearly has a blocking role. But she could be either. Still, she had made the claim a bit early. I think it's fairly standard to expect a prostitute in a game this size and with all the roles so far. The fact that no one has refuted her makes me believe she is clean. Either the escort (if it exists) already claimed something else or couldn't do so because she had. So for now, I'll also let her pass.

That brings me to my last person, Emperor. This seems like the most likely suspect. Upon rechecking some posts, I realized that his first move earlier was to vote brandish. And when I question him, he said it was a flip between Brandish and Lak, the 2 faces he knew. I recall I and WYIS refuted those being the only people he knew since he should actually know both of us as well, hence that reasoning was void. And at this stage, it's rather hard to think he actually picked two of the red Mafia team on luck (because it clearly wasn't for the reason he gave). And then his claim of Jesus. It was early, but it was a fairly safe claim I suppose. And then I think back on the kills. He didn't seem to have qualms about voting Vandred and locking next time he was online. He was basically allowed to coast on his Jesus claim so far. And I considered the fact that he voted Greg and didn't mind being last. Of course this would make sense if he was Jesus, but on the other hand, it could also be because he already knew Greg was innocent or at least not a red and couldn't be a bomb since the other factions already lost their bombs. I recall brandish was also rather trusting of his claim and didn't mind suggesting that he lock last in case Greg was a bomb (which in hindsight, we know now that brandish was already aware that Greg was not). And so, of the bunch, Emperor seems the most suspicions to me.

I'm either wrong or right. At this stage, this is the best that comes to mind. If it's not him, props to whoever the last red is.

Also, Transfer energy to Demon

 

[Farfalla]

Spy (Townie): The Spy has the ability to spy on someone at Night and find out who they targeted. Does not, however, find out their target's actual Night Action. (GAME 31)

Hosts can you confirm if a hypothetical spy wouldn't get any results if he checked on a player who was blocked? @Hardy

Although you lot keep tagging only Hardy... (yes, I'm butthurt)

The Spy gets targets. Even if a Prostitute/Escort would prevent the Spy's target from performing, the Spy would still get the target information.

 

[xi0]

@GrySun explain yourself

 

[Holt]

 

[Demonspeed]

What about Gry?

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Hard to believe that Spriggan is Mafia. Claiming Jesus so early is way too risky, especially for a new player.

 

[xi0]

What about Gry?

He said he used his Spy power on SonOfDaws last night and got nothing and blamed it on SonOfDaws getting nothing back on using his detective powers on desin24, which doesn't make sense.

 

[Demonspeed]

OK. I will reveal it. Gry was Spy N1, but he is not anymore. He is Mason. We used the fact that Son knew his role to bait Mafia and pressure them. He has been recruited.

Notice how both our actions are coordinated? We are Masons together.